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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Saw a comment about this and I agree. Saying DBS is the canon one when Toei Bardock is the original creation that Toriyama put into the manga, is strange.
Maybe it's in the full episode, but Toei Bardock is that one that appears in the DB manga. Plus, in a Toriyama interview he said that despite not writing him, he decided to include him in his original work. That distinction is important cause there's technically two canon Bardocks.
Maybe it's in the full episode, but Toei Bardock is that one that appears in the DB manga. Plus, in a Toriyama interview he said that despite not writing him, he decided to include him in his original work. That distinction is important cause there's technically two canon Bardocks.
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Well originally it's pretty clear toei Bardock was meant to be the canon one but then Toriyama wrote Dragon Ball Minus with his own personsal take on Bardocks story which is the one DBS uses as well. It's not so much there being technically two canon Bardocks it just that who the canon version was ended up being retconned into the one we see in DBS Broly and the DBS manga.
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I guess DB is going to church now.
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While it was Heeters selling it, we saw them selling Granolah's planet to the small new people in Granolah arc.
Thinking about OmnimanBardock, while Omni-man can hold his breath for massively long time up to 2 weeks, there is a catch. Omni-man actually cant survive without oxygen. He needs to hold his breath. And looking at it, apparently Mark managed to choke Conquest to death.
And Omni-man is going to fight against someone way stronger than him no matter what? Yeeeeeeeaaah, Bardock kinda should have no trouble knocking him hard enough to disrupt his breathing then. Kinda surprised this detail isnt talked as much.
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Regardless, we know those two are getting composited anyway, so both will get their time.(even though the Toei version is blatantly superior.)
In any case, sup peeps, I'm back again(not that my ass actually matters, lol) and I just want to say, I'm glad Death Battle is continuing, and we're getting this matchup first.
What I'm looking forward to the most, is the moment that Super Saiyan is unveiled, undoubtedly after Omniman is able to defeat the Oozaru through some clever moves plus superior speed. Hope DA delivers on Blonde Bardock, because that can be some serious hype, leading towards the finale.
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I'm gonna be real: Omni Man's probably gonna get his Supreme scaling and be universal lol
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If we're being that lenient, given the context of Supreme, we might as well give Bardock Xenoverse stuff.
And at that point, we basically have fanfic versions of Omniman and Bardock duking it out, lol.
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Ultraguy stated they'll be no crossover scailing in any metric and even then wouldn't scale to a supreme at his peak in any fashion
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Can Bardock win with Super Saiyan &/or Oozaru?
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If Super Saiyan is allowed, then scaling to King Vegeta's feat from the anime of wiping out three planets with a wave of his hand is viable, and that calcs to around the same level as omniman's best feat(which requires generous interpretation to even get as high) and this would just be base Bardock.
Once he goes Super Saiyan, Omniman legit would kill himself, trying to hurt him.
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Alright, with return of DB it is time for... useless statistics!!
How fast did Omni-Man return for a DB?
After his S9 ep, Nolan returned after 28 eps. That is actually faster than Carol returning by 29 eps, and makes Nolan the 4th fastest returnee counting gaps in episodes not real time wait.
How fast did Omni-Man return for a DB?
After his S9 ep, Nolan returned after 28 eps. That is actually faster than Carol returning by 29 eps, and makes Nolan the 4th fastest returnee counting gaps in episodes not real time wait.
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The editing in Bardock and Nolan's trailers is freaking fantastic dang
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Thing is king Vegeta actually isn't Bardock best feat for scaling in general only for base Bardock it is
Great Ape and Ssj Bardock scale to Saiyan Saga Vegeta planet bust that gets higher than his father
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Honestly pondering since in what-if Bardock survived Frieza's Supernova, should that mean some scaling to base Bardock for that feat, especially since he would also get Zenkai for that too :V
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Objectively speaking, since DB is going to be using Episode of Bardock to give him Super Saiyan, Bardock should easily be above King Vegeta's PL by the time of that special since he recovered from all the vicious beat downs and shit he went through in his movie.
So even going Oozaru for Bardock would be overkill against Nolan, imagine how severe a 50x increase will be for poor poor Omni Man.
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Ssj Bardock is much easier to argue scailing given his power level would be 500,000 close toe Frieza 530k
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Yes but imagine 500k PL Base Bardock getting dem 50x multipliers to that :^)
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I personally think he would be stronger than First Form Frieza due to his Zenkai boosts and the minor training he was doing before getting Super Saiyan.
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Thank @DJTiki . Doing great work as always
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You can make a case but we have no idea beyond his base and upscaling king Vegeta at that time
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Danganronpa footage
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They're using Toei Canon stuff, which includes SSJ
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Based on something Ultraguy or someone said somewhere?
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Celestia Ludenberg's execution when talking about fire
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Ultraguy said that they would use Toei + DBS Bardock VS Comics + TV Show Omni-Man
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Eggman's reaction when Bowser try to control his robots:
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How many Death Battle combatants under 5'4
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Eggman's reaction when Bowser summons the entire ******* Mario verse (according to Bowser scalers he can do that):Eggman's reaction when Bowser try to control his robots:
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5'4" is 162.56 centimeters.
Vegeta barely scrapes by, at 164 cm.
Just off the top of my head, Hiei, Gon (But not if in Adult Gon form.), Killua, Misaka....
Goomba, Koopa, Pikachu.
Are we counting non-human characters? Do we allow humanoid non-humans? (If not, that would disqualify Vegeta if he were shorter, as he's a full-blooded saiyan.)
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Gonna be real fun if the episode comes out in DecemberEggman's reaction when Bowser summons the entire ******* Mario verse (according to Bowser scalers he can do that):
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Anyone under 163 cm:
Leonardo (157 cm), the rest of the TMNT are same size
Shadow the Hedgehog (100 cm)
Mario (155 cm)
Sonic the Hedgehog (100 cm)
Pikachu (40 cm)
Bucky O'Hare (150 cm)
Tail (80 cm)
Kirby (20 cm)
Toph Beifong (111 cm) [Note: At 12]
Knuckles (110 cm)
Mega Man (132 cm)
Astro Boy (135 cm)
Red (137 cm) [Note: At 10 years old]
Tai Kamiya (140 cm)
Agumon (100 cm)
Ratchet (155 cm)
Clank (66 cm)
Daxter (86 cm)
Amy Rose (90 cm)
Scrooge McDuck (94 cm)
Shovel Knight (137 cm)
Metal Sonic (100 cm)
Lucario (119 cm)
Crash Bandicoot (150 cm)
Spyro (120 cm)
Sora (160 cm)
Pit (160 cm)
MegaMan Volnutt (155 cm)
MegaMan.EXE (148 cm)
Mega Man Star Force (145 cm)
King Dedede (61 cm)
Weiss Schnee (163 cm in heels)
Aang (137 cm) [Note: At 12 years old]
Edward Elric (141 cm)
Hiei (160 cm)
Mob (157 cm)
Tatsumaki (Around 151 cm)
Machamp (160 cm)
Zuko (160 cm)
Crona (152 cm)
Yoda (66 cm)
King Mickey (68 cm)
Star Butterfly (157 cm)
Tetsuo Shima (162 cm)
Sun Wukong (121 cm) [Note: Size variable]
Silver the Hedgehog (100 cm)
Spongebob Squarepants (10 cm)
Asta (155 cm)
Killua Zoldyck (158 cm)
Misaka Mikoto (161 cm)
Stitch (91 cm)
Rocket Raccoon (121 cm)
Frieza (158 cm) [Taller in Second and Third forms]
Scooby Doo (72 cm)
Courage (38 cm)
Yūgi Mutō (153 cm)
Ruby Rose (162 cm)
Maka Albarn (145 cm)
Wile E. Coyote (153 cm)
Tom Cat (130 cm)
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This episode will 100% be the next Billcord when Bowser losesEggman's reaction when Bowser summons the entire ******* Mario verse (according to Bowser scalers he can do that):
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koopa3144
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"Erm, actually Bowser can summon most of the main cast with the Ally Phone from Super Mario Party"Eggman's reaction when Bowser summons the entire ******* Mario verse (according to Bowser scalers he can do that):
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Does this apply to the version of the TMNT used in the episode?
Typo.
Otherwise, amazing.
Forgive my asking, but who's he showing when he says Iago? Doesn't look like the bird from Aladdin, nor Jafar.
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Shakespeare character
Spinoirr
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Don't forget MLP characters (minus Discord)
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