DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[BlackDarkness679]

I dunno, considering most popular games past 2013-2014 (I believe) tend to be movie games, Asura's Wrath probably could've been a series.

If you mean those like until dawn and the like, these work cuz they are vastly different in how they tackle it, you make your own story and all and choose paths, Asura Wrath isnt like that, plus most of those are horror games

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Spoiler: The Result

Morrigan violates. She is way more skilled, has higher AP/Dura, and more combat experience. The only thing Albedo has going for her is World Items which only stop hax not raw AP

Pretty sure nobody would have said the other had a chance honestly

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Pretty sure nobody would have said the other had a chance honestly

You would be surprised how passionate some Overlord Fanboys are about their verse. They genuinly believe Ainz and the Floor Guardians are Outerversal

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Either tiktok, youtuber or reddit fans, nothing new, these sort of people should not exist in this community and do anything else

 

[TMaakkonen]

Hmm is TracerScout wrong? Its controversial but which way does it go or did ATT?

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Hunterzillas]

Adam from ROR should just fight Adam from Hazbin Hotel tbh.

I'm sorry, but a fan version of that one Sonic character is not popular enough to warrant being on the show

We're all waiting for the day that same name characters fight, I'd be down for this to be the first.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Weekly be like:

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I doubt crushing through buildings is wall level, let alone the rocks falling or him busting with the breath that at the start, simply by sheer size

 

[TMaakkonen]

I cant tell how much of that is a joke :V

 

[PonePoster]

We're all waiting for the day that same name characters fight, I'd be down for this to be the first.

Adam vs Adam is THE BEST same name fight - idc about their other MU ideas, THEY HAVE NONE. STOP LYING TO YOURSELVES.

Hellzilla has always been a fraud. It's just that nobody wants to confront the fact their fave character isn't an Outerversal deity with irrelevant speed

 

[Tipper17]

I never understood how Godzilla gets this level of wank hype outside Ultima and whatever crossover version from that gacha or whatever most versions of big don't really get high beings planetary shit at best

 

[TMaakkonen]

I do have seen vids that say Showa era (I think it was?) Goji would be 4D and SpaceGodzilla stuff gets to infinite lul

 

[Deidalius]

LMAO, I always thought he was a fraud. I remember viewing a video talking about his comic and he never had an impressive feat. Just pure powerscaler wank.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

LMAO, I always thought he was a fraud. I remember viewing a video talking about his comic and he never had an impressive feat. Just pure powerscaler wank.

Reminds me of this video from Goji-Chronic, where he scaled Godzilla in Hell to 6-D. Not to say this to slander Goji, I think he's a pretty decent power scaled YouTuber from my experience, but yeah that version of Godzilla gets the most wank I've seen from any version of the king.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Oh God, not the GiH Feats x WoG convo again...

 

[Deidalius]

Wtffffff he isn't even Radio tower/Falling rocks level?! No way this so called Outer Gof gets hurt by a radio tower and falling rocks... Godzilla in fraud...

 

[ZeedKZ]

The OP is Weekly in disguise, ggs.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I think this is downplaying a little too much but yeah. Godzilla in Hell HEAVILY relies on it being somewhat connected to something like CM in order to make it Tier 1 or whatever.

And I'm gonna say it, if your verse requires some heavy cross scaling in order to win, you're cooked.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Oh, so Kratos is allowed lore feats, but Godzilla isnt? I seeeee :^)

How many here has even read that Story :V

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Oh, so Kratos is allowed lore feats, but Godzilla isnt? I seeeee :^)

How many here has even read that Story :V

I've read the story and he is not Tier 1 lmfao.

 

[TMaakkonen]

I've read the story and he is not Tier 1 lmfao.

Well yes, but wall level is too low for him :V

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Oh, so Kratos is allowed lore feats, but Godzilla isnt? I seeeee :^)

To give Kratos some credit compared to Godzilla in Hell: at least Kratos' lore scaling can plausibly exist in universe, and at least the very least it's the games and novels that take a precedence over Twitter and WOG statements.

Godzilla in Hell in the other hand? 99.9% of his scaling all comes from Twitter and cross verse scaling, it's not even comparable to Kratos.

 

[ZeedKZ]

The biggest problem with Godzilla In Hell's powerscaling stems from two things; the story's lack of dialogue, and multiple writers in a comic book with only five issues, and it's the lack of dialog that led to a lot of people asking the authors a lot of questions.

The story is almost 100% abstract (not least because that was the intention from the start if I'm not mistaken, even taking ideas from The Divine Comedy when Godzilla descended into Hell). It's the personification of nuclear terror traveling through different pockets of hell, conquering not only his enemies and obstacles, but himself at the end of the story, but that's the thing, it's almost entirely visual. We have brief narrations at the beginning of each issue (or not even that), or when God-Mountain shouts for Godzilla to submit, or when he goes through an N situation (for example, when he tricks Ghidorah and Destoroyah into destroying one of the walls of hell that was blocking his destination), nothing complex. It's one of my favorite IDW stories, but when it gets into the powerscaling business, that's where things get complicated, especially for those who are puritanical about visual feats.

I personally separate the good apples from the bad, I think it's wrong to say that every WoG based on this story is disposable, because for a story with almost zero narration, everything depends on our interpretation (which is what David Watcher wanted in the last issue). The problem is that people focus too much on superfitial questions and answers. Like, "wow, can Godzilla nuke the whole IDW megaverse?", or "wow, is Godzilla omniscient and omnipresent?".

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

If you mean those like until dawn and the like, these work cuz they are vastly different in how they tackle it, you make your own story and all and choose paths, Asura Wrath isnt like that, plus most of those are horror games

No, I mean games that are more story ridden than gameplay, Uncharted 4, The Last Of Us and Norse GoW for example. In fact, I think Asura's Wrath would have stood out as a movie game with its raw absurdity from its cutscenes.

 

[PonePoster]

Oh, so Kratos is allowed lore feats, but Godzilla isnt? I seeeee :^)

How many here has even read that Story :V

Lore scaling is fine

Twitter scaling should get you sent to hell along with Fraudzilla

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

I think arguing GiH Godzilla below any degree of planet is extremely disingenuous lol

 

[Deidalius]

Lore scaling is fine

Twitter scaling should get you sent to hell along with Fraudzilla

what's twitter scaling?

 

[Tipper17]

what's twitter scaling?

Asking authors on Twitter on how strong X character is on Twitter

 

[Bigdongus]

Either tiktok, youtuber or reddit fans, nothing new, these sort of people should not exist in this community and do anything else

If I had it my way everyone would not exist in this community and instead be doing something else, including myself. But alas I don’t have that power

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Hmm is TracerScout wrong? Its controversial but which way does it go or did ATT?

They didn't bring up the comic feats for Scout. Didn't allow him to use full arsenal. Downplayed his feats. Yeah, I'd say its pretty wrong

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Are we able to see who's winning the rematch vote?

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

They didn't bring up the comic feats for Scout. Didn't allow him to use full arsenal. Downplayed his feats. Yeah, I'd say its pretty wrong

Doesn’t Tracer blitz and AP stomp now?

 

[Tipper17]

Are we able to see who's winning the rematch vote?

Nope end of the month

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Doesn’t Tracer blitz and AP stomp now?

Via Optional Equipment Scout has higher AP and MHS+ which is allowed via Death Battles own rules. Also, you are forgetting about Scout's hax.

 

[Gyra1524]

Via Optional Equipment Scout has higher AP and MHS+ which is allowed via Death Battles own rules. Also, you are forgetting about Scout's hax.

But his MHS comes from BONK and when he drinks it he is incapable of using any weapons, unless would that count as a game mechanic?

 

[PonePoster]

But his MHS comes from BONK and when he drinks it he is incapable of using any weapons, unless would that count as a game mechanic?

There's no reason why he can't shoot or hit people while using Bonk; the actual description is that it causes a sugar overdose that makes his whole body twitch, which is how he's able to dodge bullets. He should reasonably be able to pull the trigger of a gun, but maybe you could say his accuracy would be off