DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[AnAverageUsername]

Folks out here acting like this fight was peak man standards for a good fight in this day and age be so low folks be gassing up shit that's mid at best

People have their own standards, I feel as though it's mean spirited to bash that, as an opinion too tethered to your own perception of the fight. People can have fun and some whimsy, nothing wrong with that.

 

[HenshinIntervention]

I just thought about something: the way they worded Kratos scaling to the speed of Helios was kind of weird to me because Kratos didn't fight Helios. Helios was already weakened when he was crushed by that Titan, Helios tried using his light to blind Kratos, but Kratos blocked his vision and powered through it to get to Helios.

Instead: I feel like a better way to justify the scaling would be to scale Kratos to Hercules who, if I'm not mistaken, can block Helios' light faster than it can be pulled out during the fight. Or just upscaling Kratos above the shockwaves generated by the Primordials which created the universe.

Now that I thought about it, they made it significantly more difficult for Lore bros to justify the scaling because their own justification is flawed

 

[Tipper17]

People have their own standards, I feel as though it's mean spirited to bash that, as an opinion too tethered to your own perception of the fight. People can have fun and some whimsy, nothing wrong with that.

Opinions may vary but at a certain point I refuse to dance to the notion of this being remotely peak any manner
The emotional moments were done badly and just reeks of appealing to emotional stunned man children to clap for instead of actual making sense in the animation

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

The result of the fight is actually fairly controversial even on r/deathbattle, which I think is interesting.

 

[Ayewale]

The result of the fight is actually fairly controversial even on r/deathbattle, which I think is interesting.

R/deathbattle thinks that lorescaling is really silly and stupid, which is why they argue without blinking that Mario and Sonic are multiversal.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Dude doesn't care for power level shit probably watched it for fun

Im aware but i say it cuz you saw attempts of "authors disprove these" type shit

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I really can't believe Bardock (and Goku as well), are only as tall as a 16 year old highschooler

And vegeta as tall as an average highschool girl

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I just thought about something: the way they worded Kratos scaling to the speed of Helios was kind of weird to me because Kratos didn't fight Helios. Helios was already weakened when he was crushed by that Titan, Helios tried using his light to blind Kratos, but Kratos blocked his vision and powered through it to get to Helios.

Instead: I feel like a better way to justify the scaling would be to scale Kratos to Hercules who, if I'm not mistaken, can block Helios' light faster than it can be pulled out during the fight. Or just upscaling Kratos above the shockwaves generated by the Primordials which created the universe.

They scaled him to promordials via Cronos, also yes Hercules reacts to you using Helios light

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

I really can't believe Bardock (and Goku as well), are only as tall as a 16 year old highschooler

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[Chianli]

I feel like DA (devilartemis) is better at animating comedy skits in 3D more than actual fits, because I think he is more acustomed to doing that then versus matchups.



It doesn't mean he is bad per say, but he needs to get better at it, since imo, it seems so

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Mannn…

The more I think about this fight an episode the more lower it gets. It’s not the same as Bowser vs Eggman where the more you watch it the better it gets.

You can tell DA put a lot of passion in the fight, but I agree with @Tipper17 that he should not be the only 3-D animator for death battle rn. It’s feeling like it’s just a bit too much for the guy.

Honestly, I’m thinking about putting this episode as a 6 or 5 out of 10, really disappointed.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Wdym? He already beat Hell Biker

Bruh, you did not just compare Ghost Rider to some fodder demon

 

[BlackDarkness679]

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Yup

 

[AnAverageUsername]

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Vegeta should NOT be only 120+ lbs, is all that muscle fake????

 

[Darkmon_cns]

So what's the consensus on spawn versus Ghost Rider? Just watch the cast on the subject and there it seemed fairly even

 

[Ayewale]

So what's the consensus on spawn versus Ghost Rider? Just watch the cast on the subject and there it seemed fairly even

Well the main questions are whether DB equalizes the two's stats and whether Ghost Rider's haxes can win out the day. It's like a 50/50 for both of these questions.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Am I the only one who liked the fight? I just think the music didn't match ngl

 

[Kroneii1]

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Vegeta is not that skinny what?

 

[Tipper17]

Am I the only one who liked the fight? I just think the music didn't match ngl

It's heavily mixed for good reasons

 

[TMaakkonen]

Am I the only one who liked the fight? I just think the music didn't match ngl

I liked it but sometimes Im weirdo who likes mid. This reminds me of AkumaShaoKahn, I like em but they have big missed opportunities.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Have the views on the last few death battles had good viewer counts? I worry they've been very low

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

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Lmao, i know the guy who did the post

Btw, Vegeta's height was kinda of retconned given how he is showed as being a bit taller on DBS than his past-self:

 

[Issen_Mk_III]

Kratos should be groveling to Asura's developer/publisher. GoW wouldn't even exist if it weren't for Onimusha. In fact, no modern stylish/character action series would, especially DMC.

Everything predating Warlords is pretty archaic, too, Fighting Force, Ninja Shadow of Darkness, Nightmare Creatures, etc. Here's hoping Way of the Sword knocks it out of the park. I guess I'll find out how the gameplay looks tomorrow, I already have worries about it being way too Soulsborne adjacent, a sub-genre of action games I frankly couldn't give a **** less about if you payed me...

 

[Issen_Mk_III]

So the lineage would be Arcade beat em ups(Streets of Rage, Final Fight, Nightslashers)>"Prototype" 3D beat em ups(Ninja:SoD, Fightning Force, Nightmare Creatures, etc.)>Onimusha>every character action games from the last 2 decades.

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

I feel like DA (devilartemis) is better at animating comedy skits in 3D more than actual fits, because I think he is more acustomed to doing that then versus matchups.



It doesn't mean he is bad per say, but he needs to get better at it, since imo, it seems so

Frieza VS Megatron (despite the awkward pacing and cut content from storyboards), Saitama VS Popeye, and Vader VS Obito were all awesome.

I don’t know why his last two episodes were so janky. Then again he did do Spider Gwen VS Batgirl.

 

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[Darkmon_cns]

Kratos should be groveling to Asura's developer/publisher. GoW wouldn't even exist if it weren't for Onimusha. In fact, no modern stylish/character action series would, especially DMC.

Everything predating Warlords is pretty archaic, too, Fighting Force, Ninja Shadow of Darkness, Nightmare Creatures, etc. Here's hoping Way of the Sword knocks it out of the park. I guess I'll find out how the gameplay looks tomorrow, I already have worries about it being way too Soulsborne adjacent, a sub-genre of action games I frankly couldn't give a **** less about if you payed me...

Idk about that own chief you can say the same about modern action games and Kratos, he really pushed the envelope himself

 

[TartaChocholate]

Vegeta is not that skinny what?

That's like a constant in anime and manga, characters weight incredibly little even if they are towers of muscle like JoJos. I wonder if it has to do with Japan's views regarding weight in general.

 

[Issen_Mk_III]

Idk about that own chief you can say the same about modern action games and Kratos, he really pushed the envelope himself

This is true. All I'm saying is that Onimusha IS the foundation.The devs of GoW admitted, several times, that they 100% aped almost everything from Onimusha. It's basically the "NWOBHM" of action games, every other variety spawned from the promethean flame that is Warlords, including Character Action & Soulsbornes.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

This is true. All I'm saying is that Onimusha IS the foundation.The devs of GoW admitted, several times, that they 100% aped almost everything from Onimusha. It's basically the "NWOBHM" of action games, every other variety spawned from the promethean flame that is Warlords, including Character Action & Soulsbornes.

I don't think just because his dad had another famous son that Kratos should grovel to asure. Unfortunately asure's dead left him to die in a ditch so I don't think he cares

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Rewatching the Cast episode for GR vs Spawn, apparently Spawn does have ways to resist the penance stare.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

how the furies create pocket dimensions with celestial bodies or thor feats with the tree having the 9 realms

I thoughts you said furries and was genuinly confused

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Lmao, i know the guy who did the post

Btw, Vegeta's height was kinda of retconned given how he is showed as being a bit taller on DBS than his past-self:

Bulma was taller then him too in Z, not he matches her in size

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

The fight just genuinely didn't feel like six minutes.

 

[Issen_Mk_III]

I don't think just because his dad had another famous son that Kratos should grovel to asure. Unfortunately asure's dead left him to die in a ditch so I don't think he cares

The gap between Dawn of Dreams (2006) & Way of the Sword (2026) is obviously massive. Don't give up hope for another Asura's Wrath, any & all of Capcom's dormant IPs are on the table after this, as far as we know.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

The gap between Dawn of Dreams(2006) & Way of the Sword(2026) is obviously massive. Don't give up hope for another Asura's Wrath, any & all of Capcom's dormant IPs are on the table after this, as far as we know.

I imagine any sequel would reach into the multiversal

 

[AnAverageUsername]

That's like a constant in anime and manga, characters weight incredibly little even if they are towers of muscle like JoJos. I wonder if it has to do with Japan's views regarding weight in general.

Well for JJBA the weights are accurate. Characters like Jotaro were never actually all that buff to begin with, it was just a side effect of the style that Araki was emulating for the time, big muscles were all the rage. His modern art is how characters are actually supposed to look like.

 

[Issen_Mk_III]

I imagine any sequel would reach into the multiversal

Asura & Samanosuke need to both be in MVC. They should've been eons ago.

 

[Issen_Mk_III]

Sentry & Blade, too.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]