DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[AcidSilver]

Theres a difference between losing powers because the power source was destroyed, and not being able to have 2 powers at once. Schrodinger and level 0 cannot be used together as alucard wouldn't exist, greek realm and the norse realm did exist together at one point, also don't the blades of chaos still work despite being greek magic?

Okay but Kratos didn't get any Norse magic until after Greece was destroyed. Giving him his Greek magic would be like if DB reused All Might but gave him both his regular powers and the Iron Might suit or if they used Samus again but gave her every ability from every armor she's ever worn to create some kind of singular OC armor . A Kratos with both Greek and Norse magic does not and cannot exist within the lore since Kratos did not travel to Midgard until after Greece was destroyed. The Blades of Chaos still having power is never explained but both games make sure to point out that the blades are special and unique even to Brok and Sindri. Ragnarok even has Surtr say that the blades are infused with primordial fire which implies that said magic is different from the kind that Kratos normally uses.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Ngl if they do one-offs for BowserEggman, crossovers for AmogusGuys and fanfic compositing, mixing Greek Weps with Norse isnt anything new :V

 

[BlackDarkness679]

He also can quite literally get clowned on by Sweet Tooth of all people.

Nathan Drake or the playstation cats are like the weakest of the roster over Sweet Tooth

 

[Tipper17]

Ngl if they do one-offs for BowserEggman, crossovers for AmogusGuys and fanfic compositing, mixing Greek Weps with Norse isnt anything new :V

Animation wise They'll probably stick to Norse Stuff
While The research would focus for m how Greek and Norse Fare against Asura

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Ngl if they do one-offs for BowserEggman, crossovers for AmogusGuys and fanfic compositing, mixing Greek Weps with Norse isnt anything new :V

Also isnt kratos at his peak i greek era? Norse self is toned down canonically, still powerful but not near his prime

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Dust_Collector]

Also isnt kratos at his peak i greek era? Norse self is toned down canonically, still powerful but not near his prime

Nah the only point Kratos is stronger in greek era is with power of hope, otherwise his current norse self is equal to his peak strength in GOW (Although tbh you can make an argument either way for his greek or norse self having a slight AP advantage).

 

[TMaakkonen]

Kratos is unironically holding back a lot in Norse games.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Cheering and rooting Kratos never played the other guy's games

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Cheering and rooting Kratos never played the other guy's games

You should, for the low price of 20 something dollars or whatever

Or you could watch it all on Youtube. Trust me, Asura's Wrath is peak fiction, and Asura is peak dad.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Nah the only point Kratos is stronger in greek era is with power of hope, otherwise his current norse self is equal to his peak strength in GOW (Although tbh you can make an argument either way for his greek or norse self having a slight AP advantage).

Didnt Kratos say greek era was tougher and stronger then norse era? Also the director

 

[BlackDarkness679]

 

[Joycap]

This should be a green screen meme

 

[TMaakkonen]

I dont think Kratos ever said Greek > Norse specifically, mostly just Fate's magic not existing in Norse was implied would have ****** em up if Odin had it.

Iirc some writers have said Old Kratos would beat Young Kratos.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Didnt Kratos say greek era was tougher and stronger then norse era? Also the director

Nah, he only said he's killed gods greater than Heimdall specifically (Which only really covers the stronger gods in Greece, doesn't imply every one of them were superior). Kratos directly calls Thors blows as heavy as any he's ever felt, plus Thor is only 1 of 2 characters able to knock Kratos out of his spartan rage in a fight with the other being Hercules, the director considered Odin vs Zeus a debatable fight, and in terms of raw physical strength Thor and Tyr (Who Kratos beats) is superior to him Unless you're weekly and think Thor is stronger than Kratos for some reason

Kratos in GOW 2018 is much weaker than his greek self, but by the time Ragnarok happens he's back to his old levels of strength.

 

[Imaginym]

Hey, so thoughts on Lucemon vs Lucifer(Digimon vs Shin Megami Tensei)? It’s an MU I’ve been pushing for awhile and apparently Digimon has outer args

I'd be happy to see this.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Nah, he only said he's killed gods greater than Heimdall specifically (Which only really covers the stronger gods in Greece, doesn't imply every one of them were superior). Kratos directly calls Thors blows as heavy as any he's ever felt, plus Thor is only 1 of 2 characters able to knock Kratos out of his spartan rage in a fight with the other being Hercules, the director considered Odin vs Zeus a debatable fight, and in terms of raw physical strength Thor and Tyr (Who Kratos beats) is superior to him Unless you're weekly and think Thor is stronger than Kratos for some reason

Kratos in GOW 2018 is much weaker than his greek self, but by the time Ragnarok happens he's back to his old levels of strength.

I see, heh, interesting

 

[Gyra1524]

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Welp, new potential feats that can make the sun disk not be a joke anymore, would be funny lol

 

[Tipper17]

Welp, new potential feats that can make the sun disk not be a joke anymore, would be funny lol

I wonder how long it'll be going

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Okay but Kratos didn't get any Norse magic until after Greece was destroyed. Giving him his Greek magic would be like if DB reused All Might but gave him both his regular powers and the Iron Might suit or if they used Samus again but gave her every ability from every armor she's ever worn to create some kind of singular OC armor . A Kratos with both Greek and Norse magic does not and cannot exist within the lore since Kratos did not travel to Midgard until after Greece was destroyed. The Blades of Chaos still having power is never explained but both games make sure to point out that the blades are special and unique even to Brok and Sindri. Ragnarok even has Surtr say that the blades are infused with primordial fire which implies that said magic is different from the kind that Kratos normally uses.

your talking about lore wise, theoretically. He could have had both if Greek magic still lives. Lore wise he can’t because the source is destroyed but in terms of a vs sense. He would have access to it because this is a deathbattle, not a crossover

 

[Gyra1524]

It's a prequel that takes place between INVINCIBLE #19-#55. Or AKA the first time we see Battle Beast and Battle Beast escaping the Viltrumite prison.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I wonder how long it'll be going

Depends on kirkman i guess, honestly how long can you have a comic be going these days now?

 

[Darkmon_cns]

So is invincible, its own comic universe now?

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Depends on kirkman i guess, honestly how long can you have a comic be going these days now?

Only comic I actively follow is approaching it's 75th comic tho that's the sonic comic so maybe it follows different rules then superhero comics

 

[AnAverageUsername]

So is invincible, its own comic universe now?

It has been for like, 20 years

 

[BlackDarkness679]

So is invincible, its own comic universe now?

Why would it be, aint it still part of Image yet they can do their own thing

 

[Tipper17]

Depends on kirkman i guess, honestly how long can you have a comic be going these days now?

Given it's a prequel that's supposed to take place between issues 19-55 of the comic prob not long

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Why would it be, aint it still part of Image yet they can do their own thing

I love how one person said it has been for 20 years and another said why would it be

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I love how one person said it has been for 20 years and another said why would it be

I meant in the sense that Image comics arent like Marvel or DC, they do their own thing almost separated from others problems

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Given it's a prequel that's supposed to take place between issues 19-55 of the comic prob not long

How crazy they will go with it though if short lived

 

[Dust_Collector]

It's crazy how cloaks almost always make a character look way cooler

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

It's crazy how cloaks almost always make a character look way cooler

That's because cloaks, by their very nature, are cool.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

You think KratoSura's fight would take them to Valhalla, giving Kratos the Blade Of Olympus?

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Chianli]

I hate how we got left with a cliff hanger with battle beast's daughter going on a bloodlust quest (paralleling how levy jr's is also on the somewhat same but foolish quest.) kill mark, not anyone them know that mark didn't even caused their fathers death but by their own actions. (BB got killed by Thragg while levy (I think) by robot or the many AU/AT robots/)

the sins of their fathers literally carrying them to be an actual curse bc if it continues, I don't think levy jr would handle the fact that mark never actually did anything to his father & he was just insane for all of his memories where from other realities, BB daughter wouldn't care honestly.)

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Plot Manip. Saitama is beyond scewed

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

 

[Gyra1524]

 

[TartaChocholate]

Say, question unrelated: are there any good blogs for Mario around? Kinda like for Mario vs Sonic or other matchups? The more recent and updated, the better.