DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Tipper17]

I hate how Twitter knows I like DB (well I hate Twitter in general but that’s not the point). Because of this I get tons of posts from accounts who do almost nothing except talk about death battle (I call them death battle influencers), and their takes are ******* abysmal a lot of the time.

I swear half of their “wanted matchups” lists are shared with other influencers because they’re always talking about supporting matchups that other influencers want because they’re friends. So it leads to this weird circlejerk of matchups only like 12 or so Twitter accounts want and children will simp for those matchups because the influencers like them.

Remember when nemesis Bloodryche made a video saying “stop parroting my opinions” as soon as megatron vs frieza got announced? More of them need to do this.

Tbh it's why I don't bother following any DB influencer or watch them because most of the time they saying shit others already been saying
The community be putting them too much on a pedestal instead of just looking at them as regular people

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

So like, could Yuji just punch Pochita out of Denji?

 

[Deidalius]

A bit related or unrelated, but I tend to unfollow or take less seriously the opinions about Death Battle from people who are friends with the Death Battle staff. I feel there's a conflict of interest with those people being their friends and all. (Also, they tend to have very similar opinions to each other)

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

So like, could Yuji just punch Pochita out of Denji?

Punch and use Soul Dismantles and Cleaves.

 

[koopa3144]

So like, could Yuji just punch Pochita out of Denji?

Physically yeah since Pochita is Denji's heart but since Iirc Hybrids don't have a soul connection to their devil Yuji's soul Dismantles and Cleaves alone probably wouldn't be able to split them.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

So like, could Yuji just punch Pochita out of Denji?

If Makima with her ludicrous laundry list of abilities couldn't effectively do it (tbf she initially had little reason to do so), I doubt Yuji could, not that he needs to since he has other win-cons.

Punch and use Soul Dismantles and Cleaves.

^Casing point.


Tho equipment/summon interface seldom comes up in a DB animation I've notice like Link potentially stealing Cloud's Buster Sword, Mario collecting Sonic's rings, Ben hacking Hal's ring, etc. Snake Vs Sam is probably the biggest example of outside interference and equipment sabotage actually affecting the outcome of a battle, in most cases it's actually pretty uncommon on DB.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

K, I wasn’t sure if it could’ve worked like it did with Megumi

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

^Casing point.


Tho equipment/summon interface seldom comes up in a DB animation I've notice like Link potentially stealing Cloud's Buster Sword, Mario collecting Sonic's rings, Ben hacking Hal's ring, etc. Snake Vs Sam is probably the biggest example of outside interference affecting the outcome of a battle, in most cases it's actually pretty uncommon on DB.

They could still do it for the animation, they did a similar thing with Dragonborn vs Chosen Undead

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Currently Pochita's power is at that of a primal devil's, so I wonder what value the team will give him if there's anything other than the Typhoon Devil

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

They could still do it for the animation, they did a similar thing with Dragonborn vs Chosen Undead

It’d be funny if like he does that and then ends up doing a domain expansion, just does it on a regular ass dude

 

[Tipper17]

Honestly I'm annoyed over how there was so many characters DB could've used back then but now are stuck in purgatory due to there popularity peaking back then/ lacking good mu nowadays

 

[TMaakkonen]

That or character/MU could have happened but there is nowadays way too many MUs that are higher priority thus dooming old MU lol

 

[Doggo]

Sadako vs Slenderman is based. Glad they like it

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I've got to get off TikTok because I just saw one saying that the Dragonborn stomps Dante, Doomslayer, Kratos, Asura, and Sun Wukong.

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

I've got to get off TikTok because I just saw one saying that the Dragonborn stomps Dante, Doomslayer, Kratos, Asura, and Sun Wukong.

The real reason TikTok is getting banned right here.

 

[TMaakkonen]

I still havent bothered to checkout how wankery is Doomslayer's stuff :V

 

[Employe]

I still havent bothered to checkout how wankery is Doomslayer's stuff :V

Complex Multi with Imm speed and conceptual manip

 

[TMaakkonen]

Complex Multi with Imm speed and conceptual manip

How valid that is with common sense I mean :^) he had concept manipulation? sus but I cant fully judge it

 

[Employe]

How valid that is with common sense I mean :^) he had concept manipulation? sus but I cant fully judge it

The conceptual manip due to being able interact with souls

If I "punched air" it means I punched "concept of air" level bullshit

 

[TMaakkonen]

The conceptual manip due to being able interact with souls

How is that not just soul manipulation :V

Semi-Related note, while it is a statement feat, thus sus for him, the fact that Kratos actually has literal statements for fighting someone who eats concepts, Garm, is kinda funny. Too bad that specifically wouldnt beat on-screen feats, but I do have seen that Asura can destroy concepts, so there is argument that Kratos could resist Asura's concept manipulation to a degree at least.

 

[koopa3144]

The conceptual manip due to being able interact with souls

If I punched air it is means I punched concept of universe level bullshit

How is that not just soul manipulation :V

Iirc it's more than just being able to interact with souls that gives Doomguy conceptual manip in DOOM souls have essence. There's an entire page explaining DOOM essence and its nature, I would link it but the wiki is down for me rn.

 

[Tipper17]

That or character/MU could have happened but there is nowadays way too many MUs that are higher priority thus dooming old MU lol

yep new media makes it even harder for old ones to get on

 

[AnAverageUsername]

New csm chapter, new feat for the team to calculate

Big ass explosion on the side of Mount Elbrus

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I've got to get off TikTok because I just saw one saying that the Dragonborn stomps Dante, Doomslayer, Kratos, Asura, and Sun Wukong.

Novel Wukong or Black Myth Wukong? At the moment there's a CRT about upgrading the Dragonborn to 1-B so it's not entirely wrong.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Novel Wukong or Black Myth Wukong? At the moment there's a CRT about upgrading the Dragonborn to 1-B so it's not entirely wrong.

At first they were saying the latter, but it later evolved into Chinese Mythology Wukong

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

New csm chapter, new feat for the team to calculate

Big ass explosion on the side of Mount Elbrus

Rip Yuji

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

At first they were saying the latter, but it later evolved into Chinese Mythology Wukong

Yeah, I don't buy that take personally.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Rip Yuji

Not necessarily lol. If you believe that Yuji>>Disaster Curses then he still has a fighting chance.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Not necessarily lol.

It's going to be a hax vs ap match now isn't it, but this time Pochita might end up being both faster and stronger unless Yuji pulls up with his Domain Expansion right away

 

[Employe]

How is that not just soul manipulation :V

Semi-Related note, while it is a statement feat, thus sus for him, the fact that Kratos actually has literal statements for fighting someone who eats concepts, Garm, is kinda funny. Too bad that specifically wouldnt beat on-screen feats, but I do have seen that Asura can destroy concepts, so there is argument that Kratos could resist Asura's concept manipulation to a degree at least.

Not just Non-Physical Interaction*

 

[AnAverageUsername]

It's going to be a hax vs ap match now isn't it, but this time Pochita might end up being both faster and stronger unless Yuji pulls up with his Domain Expansion right away

News flash, I can't judge sizes for shit

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

It's going to be a hax vs ap match now isn't it, but this time Pochita might end up being both faster and stronger unless Yuji pulls up with his Domain Expansion right away

it depends on the yield of the explosion and if any other new speed feat happens. Because Yuji is for sure getting scaled to Jogos Maximum meteor and Hakari's lighting timing feat against Kashimo.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

The conceptual manip due to being able interact with souls

If I "punched air" it means I punched "concept of air" level bullshit

How is that not just soul manipulation :V

Essence (DOOM)

The Essence section is made by Gewsbumpz dude, link to his blog and the original. The Argent Energy, Sentinel Energy and Hell Essence sections were made by ShionAH and SpicyPlatinum. To give a simple explanation on what Essence is, it is essentially a fundamental force for living beings in DOOM...

vsbattles.fandom.com

The day people will start to read the justifications before straight up disagreeing with them is the day that powerscaling will end

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

Essence (DOOM)

The Essence section is made by Gewsbumpz dude, link to his blog and the original. The Argent Energy, Sentinel Energy and Hell Essence sections were made by ShionAH and SpicyPlatinum. To give a simple explanation on what Essence is, it is essentially a fundamental force for living beings in DOOM...

vsbattles.fandom.com

The day people will start to read the justifications before straight up disagreeing with them is the day that powerscaling will end

You do not understand. Powerscaling is not about logic, it is not about the story, it’s not about the characters even—it’s about the AGENDA!!! Maintaining the team’s agenda is our top priority ‘round these parts, everything else comes second.

 

[Employe]

Essence (DOOM)

The Essence section is made by Gewsbumpz dude, link to his blog and the original. The Argent Energy, Sentinel Energy and Hell Essence sections were made by ShionAH and SpicyPlatinum. To give a simple explanation on what Essence is, it is essentially a fundamental force for living beings in DOOM...

vsbattles.fandom.com

The day people will start to read the justifications before straight up disagreeing with them is the day that powerscaling will end

AKA what i saying, he just punched this, which would qualify for NPI. No, he does not manipulates anything

 

[TMaakkonen]

The day people will start to read the justifications before straight up disagreeing with them is the day that powerscaling will end

Even tho I implied it, I didnt properly say it, so saying it clearly now that as I havent followed Doom lore, I cant actually properly dismiss Doom stuff. Sure, I say it sounds like wank, but like every verse is wanked nowadays, what else is new lol

And frankly after DMC situation, I am not taking blogs at first glance. Hell, I played Persona 5R, so I can confidently post Kick the cat Gif because those stats are sus as hell.

I didnt properly read that Doom blog yet either, so I still cant complain about it, but usually lore like this and actual events in story of games can lead to interpretation I would not agree with 100%. But hey, as I havent seen it, maybe I am being overly cautious here, no sarcasm.

I guess should go to YT to watch it but ehhh

 

[ZeedKZ]

AKA what i saying, he just punched this, which would qualify for NPI. No, he does not manipulates anything

Me when I don't bother to read the justification.

Enhanced Non-Physical Interaction, Reality Warping, Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation, Willpower Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Power Nullification & Life Manipulation (6-D & 1 Layer; At the end of The Ancient Gods Part II, the Doom Slayer was able to stab and destroy Davoth's life sphere[1], destroying his essence along with it[1]. The Slayer was able to directly attack the soul within the Gladiator's shield, destroying it and the shield itself in a single stab[1]. Can[1] destroy[1] structures[1] within[1] Urdak[1], which are literally built up of Maykr souls[1]. The Doom Slayer became so powerful that his fight with Davoth was disrupting the souls of universes while they were in Hell[1])

Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create, and/or destroy abstract concepts. This ability has a variety of applications, ranging from not combat-applicable to incredibly dominating. Conceptual Manipulation involves the manipulation of concepts, and not the universe directly. However, through this power, one can change the universe's fundamental principles on the highest level.

 

[Employe]

Me when I don't bother to read the justification.

Repeating again: He does not manipulates anything, he just stabs open things. That's like saying that everyone who can interact with ghosts should have Soul Manipulation

"The use of Social Influencing or any non-supernatural power to achieve an alteration of a concept does not qualify as conceptual manipulation, as this is not a direct manipulation of the concept."

 

[ZeedKZ]

Me when I don't bother to read the justification to the second power.

Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create, and/or destroy abstract concepts. This ability has a variety of applications, ranging from not combat-applicable to incredibly dominating. Conceptual Manipulation involves the manipulation of concepts, and not the universe directly. However, through this power, one can change the universe's fundamental principles on the highest level.

 

[Woomica]

Me when