• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Cosmic Fear Garou vs Meta-Cooler (Not Grace)

Status
Not open for further replies.
The big problem is even if there's clear evidence of Cooler having AD that can copy Garou's AD and RE and everything else it still needs to be added to the profile via CRT to be accepted as argument. This is true to all series unless it's just clarification to a power that already exists, wich it's not (power mimicry.)
 
And even if it did, didn't it only happens once he copied Saitama's AD? If that's the case, then the exponential AD doesn't even apply here
If garou copied Saitama’s AD then he would have won since AD is the only reason Saitama was able to win. That is very clearly his own AD, and he’s unable to copy the AD of others
 
Also it seems you are not knowledgeable on Opm (didn’t know about God’s influence) so I guess I can give you a pass on some of the arguments you made earlier.
 
Appeal to reality.
Then why are you basing your rating off the Black Holes as if they were realistic? You can't have it both ways

Either these Black Holes can suck in MFTL+ characters and all realism is thrown right off the window, or they are realistic (with even a GRB you desperately try to clain is realistic too despite the obvious problems with it), and act like real Black Holes that only require FTL travel speed to escape from
 
Your failure to understand basic concepts that have been explained to you many times before is astonishing.

Garou sucks Cooler in. It does not matter how strong or fast Cooler is, because the black hole scales to Garou. The same Garou that by this point is stronger than Cooler's clones.
 
Garou did supposedly copy Metal Bat's fighting spirit, but couldn't copy Saitama's AD even when mimicking him as Saitama is literally just a better version of Garou in everything except combat mentality (doesn't use his talents properly and dislikes complicated techniques.)
 
Then it means it was only exponential because Saitama's AD was exponential, and eventually Saitama grew so fast Garou couldn't keep up
(Arbitrary numbers)

Saitama's AD: y=5^x
Garou's AD: y=5^x

They are both inherently exponential, but Saitama's is just much much faster.

Whenever Saitama reached a point where Garou was getting stomped, he would copy Saitama's AP and his AD would start working from there, but he woiuld be outpaced over and over again.
 
Garou did supposedly copy Metal Bat's fighting spirit, but couldn't copy Saitama's AD even when mimicking him as Saitama is literally just a better version of Garou in everything except combat mentality (doesn't use his talents properly and dislikes complicated techniques.)
When did he copy that? Even if he did, it would be a monster garou feat, who uses a more cellular biological based adaptation as opposed to cosmic Garou’s energy flow reality warping god blessing bullshit which is quite different, so it wouldn’t even apply to both keys.
 
Garou sucks Cooler in. It does not matter how strong or fast Cooler is, because the black hole scales to Garou. The same Garou that by this point is stronger than Cooler's clones.
I'm sorry but Black Hole's pull has nothing to do with strength of the character. Seems like you don't even know how actual Black Holes work

A realistic Black Hole sucks in everything (though all things with gravity suck things closer to them) and it is impossible to escape from below the event horizon without FTL travel

If the Black Hole is not realistic, then Garou's ratings from the Black Hole should be downgraded right now

And for you to prove it can pull and suck MFTL+ characters, you need to prove that a MFTL+ character can't simply escape the Black Hole by traveling fast, as it's not a physical object with a solid boundary
 
I'm sorry but Black Hole's pull has nothing to do with strength of the character. Seems like you don't even know how actual Black Holes work

A realistic Black Hole sucks in everything (though all things with gravity suck things closer to them) and it is impossible to escape from below the event horizon without FTL travel

If the Black Hole is not realistic, then Garou's ratings from the Black Hole should be downgraded right now

And for you to prove it can pull and suck MFTL+ characters, you need to prove that a MFTL+ character can't simply escape the Black Hole by traveling fast, as it's not a physical object with a solid boundary
Ok but ignoring speed, wouldn’t the gravity of the black hole just prevent him from moving to begin with?
 
SF is his only ranged attack iirc, but that wouldn't do much.
Garou's 22 thousand wide explosions that melt and reduce meta cooler to liquid (which high-mid regen doesn't cover)
Based on?
Meta cooler's biggest AD feat is becoming stronger than people who were defeating him initially. That is a Pre-Monster Garou feat.

Went from getting one-shot to literally bullying in the span of a few seconds

Garou prior to becoming a monster bridged and surpassed gaps over over 10x with just his AD.

Also, let's not forget that in Dragon Ball, a one-shot gap can be as small as 1.09x.
Vegeta on Namek had a PL of 19,000-24,000, with Dodoria having a PL of 22,000. Vegeta one shot Dodoria. Even assuming he was at the highest end at 24,000, that is still a 1.09x difference
 
Ok but ignoring speed, wouldn’t the gravity of the black hole just prevent him from moving to begin with?
Not really. It depends on many things, such as LS, distance, mass and many other factors. Also, moving FTL basically allows you to escape the gravitational pull as you move faster than it can pull you back in
 
So called free thinkers when they join the fra train as their very first post on the page
Not here to vote, but you've really gotta stop mass-grouping anybody who disagrees with you in a Vs Thread as people who just blindly FRA your opponent. Especially since this isn't the first time, nor the first verse, you're doing this against.

Just chill out a bit. If you've legitimately, thoroughly debunked the opposing arguments and it still gets added, then the thread will get removed if you take it to the Vs Match Removal thread.

Bruh
 
My point is, that we can't give Meta-Cooler a number for is AD. He remained at the same value.

Garou before even becoming a monster already has AD potent enough to surpass gaps of 15x instantly.
 
My point is, that we can't give Meta-Cooler a number for is AD. He remained at the same value.

Garou before even becoming a monster already has AD potent enough to surpass gaps of 15x instantly.
It still doesn't change the fact that once Cooler will take his AD by copying him, he'll get the same AD as Garou
 
He literally can't though. How many times must I tell you
Except he can. Cooler has shown that he can copy AD, even one's based on the opponents biology (again, the proof comes from Cell, who has all of the Saiyans' traits including zenkai as he posesses Saiyan DNA/Data)
 
When?????? You're yet to show proof.
He literally did. And again, Cell. The proof is with Cell's AD working in the same way from the same reasons, as both posess Saiyan-DNA/data

Oh and Cell was also able to learn IT after fighting Goku, much like how it happened with Cooler
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top