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Bleach Questions: Reiatsu Crush, and the Relevance of AP, Durability, and Verse Equalization

Yhwach's reiatsu crushing humans bodies. Reiatsu affects body and Soul.

Yhwach had conquered the Northen lands 1,000 years ago in the Human World before attacking Soul Society, those guys were not souls.
 
Because that Yhwach has absolutely no feats aside from having his soul share/power bestowal and the basic Quincy stuff. The only times we see him do anything (what we have keys for), he is in the Wandenreich shadow realm, HM, SS or the SKP. Each being a spiritual realm where he has to to be invisible.
 
This is a mess.

Alright look. Is anyone here familiar with how a Digimon's mind/soul hax and resistance scale with their AP/dura? Its basically like that.

As you'd expect, everything relevant in Bleach is soul based. The stronger your soul, the higher your AP, dura (unless a tech specifically amps either), hax and resistance. This is why people think that reiatsu is AP based as in Bleach, as AP and soul hax scale from the same thing. What they seem to ignore is that reiatsu specifically targets the soul for a variety of effects (ie Soul Manipulation) and thus requires resistance.

Verse equal energies means nothing unless the energy being equalised to reiryoku already has the abilities granted by reiryoku/reiatsu.

On mobile rn so I'll edit in scans later.
 
AstralKing7 said:
If he was shown in the human world why do we consider him invisible??? He was visible as a human to someone
The same way Uryu can go to Ichigo's school. Quincy and Fullbringers are not invisible on Earth. I agree that "invicible" should be remove from Quincy and Fullbringers. Make a crt if you want.

If Quincy and Fullbringers fight with verse equalization in any spiritual realm they would still be visible to each other like the that time the humans were transported to SS and one of them saw Aizen and Gin.
 
Having superior AP and verse equal would negate the physical damage of the reiatsu : fear inducement , being K.Oed ect

but if the target doesn't have resistance to soul manip then it would still be affected by the soul destruction part of reiatsu regarless of verse equal
 
AppleLord said:
AstralKing7 said:
If he was shown in the human world why do we consider him invisible??? He was visible as a human to someone
The same way Uryu can go to Ichigo's school. Quincy and Fullbringers are not invisible on Earth. I agree that "invicible" should be remove from Quincy and Fullbringers. Make a crt if you want.
If Quincy and Fullbringers fight with verse equalization in any spiritual realm they would still be visible to each other like the that time the humans were transported to SS and one of them saw Aizen and Gin.
but both yhwach at the time of that flashback and uryu during the bleach run were ALIVE quincies

sternritters who attack seireitei were hiding in shadows for thousand years, i don't think their material world bodies survived that long

fullbringers are pretty much alive people,but someone,like ginjo, if we were to add him a new key for novels, should be invisible in that key, as he has no material body after ichigo kills him
 
MetalGearRaiden said:
but both yhwach at the time of that flashback and uryu during the bleach run were ALIVE quincies

sternritters who attack seireitei were hiding in shadows for thousand years, i don't think their material world bodies survived that long

fullbringers are pretty much alive people,but someone,like ginjo, if we were to add him a new key for novels, should be invisible in that key, as he has no material body after ichigo kills him
All of the Wandenreich's key and feats on their profile are from the TYBW, which took place entirely in Reishi-invested worlds like the Soul Society.

When one goes to the Soul Society, it is stated they need to get their Kishi (Physical Matter) converted into Reishi (Spiritual Matter) through a Reishi Henkan-Ki if they want to be able to exist in said relam.

And thus, the Wandenreich gets invisibility since Reishi is invisible to mortals barring those who are spirituality aware.
 
But a regular person in soul society would be able to see reishi, and a human not in soul society would be made of physical, visible, matter.
 
Because for a regular person to go to SS, they need to become reishi which allows them to see and interact with other reishi.
 
The reason TYBW Quincy are invisible is due to the fact that they were all in Soul Society for the entire arc and they are never outside of it. To be in Soul Society they would have to be made of Reishi and Reishi dense spiritual bodies are invisible.
 
Didn't Yhwach mentioned that Uryu was the last living Quincy? So they are all souls by now including Jugram and Bazz-B that are over 1,000 years ago. Makes sense. Nevermind then.
 
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