Well, then they do not seem to qualify.
And does the Hogyoku simply mirror one of the Soul King's many abilities? And is there any proof that it can genuinely reach a 3-A scale of power?
Aizen is an example. If Ichigo didn't stop him and Urahara's sealing Aizen, he would have likely surpassed or completely reached Prime Soul King's level because Aizen's plan in the first place was to replace The King and also Tokinada needed Urahara to make the Hogyoku for Hikone to become a true god (The Soul King). Urahara stated that if he wanted to make the Hogyoku, he would have made one for Ichigo for him to be able to defeat Yhwach.
He was shown to be wrong on this. Why agree with that?
No. It's been explained several times the Hogyoku pieces can do none of the shit the Hogyoku can.
There's nothing vague here.
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No, it's a wish granting device that uses the fragment to power it.
The primary basis appears to be the phrase "it can alter the very world." That seems too vague to me.
It's not vague when you add what it can do to a person
Can you be more specific? What can it do to a person that would help it reach 3-A?
Sorry, I am not sure what your argument is. What level of power? Which sentences in these scans is supportive of Hogyoku being 3-A? I read them both but I am not sure what your reasoning is.
It can make you A Soul King literally, who is the Supreme being of the Bleach Universe. Those scan are telling us that if a person has the Hogyoku and fuse with it, it will make them the Supreme being of the Bleach Universe.
The scans are from Bleach CFYOW volume 2 novel.
Changing my agreement to neutral because of the very strict site standards for this rating btw.
Again, The souls were insignificant. Aizen gave up on feeding its souls since it didn't change anything. The Hogyoku couldn't evolve. Souls in bleach are not like souls in the nasuverse; in the nasuverse, they are higher dimensional things that come from another plane, and using heaven's feel can give you infinite power. Every soul (konpaku) has a minuscule amount of spiritual energy unless you are a being of the four primary races; the souls of random rukongai citizens have a minuscule amount of power. The only soul king fragment the Hogyoku was shown to have was a nail of the soul king inside of Rangiku, and that's the same thing in Fullbringers like Chad. As you can see, neither Chad nor Jackie have any reality-warping 3-A power.
The Hogyoku does not mirror any of the Soul King's abilities. The Hogyoku can make someone into the new soul king aka the being who created the bleach cosmology and sustains it as it currently is.
Can we fix the Soul King's profile? it's super outdated
We Bleach goons should make a single post defining what precisely the Hogyoku is.
It is supposed to be very hard to achieve, or there would be no true difference from an Extraordinary Genius rating. If we loosen our standards, the term would become meaningless. In fact, I think that Impress turned the term far too easy to reach by setting the lower absolute minimum boundary at 3-A rather than Low 2-C (retroactive universal time-manipulation). That should definitely be modified.
I remember that Urahara could only create a part of the hougyoku, that is, he did not complete the hougyoku like Aizen, so Urahara cannot be a super genius, I doubt that Aizen will be either.
You misunderstood the scan with all due respect. The scan states
The scan never states that Urahara cannot create one at will; he says that he can't make one regardless of reason, not due to his inability to create it but due to being something he doesn't want to create. Remember that Urahara regretted making the Hogyoku and tried to destroy it. He sees the hogyoku as an abomination that shouldn't exist. In character, Urahara would rather make Ichigo the new soul king by dismembering him than create a new Hogyoku. After this part, "If we were able to mass produce it and could have regulated it, I would have released it and just handed one over to Mr. Kurosaki during the last war." the novel states that he was joking.
Urahara never wanted to complete the Hogyoku, not that he couldn't
The issue is that the requirement is not simply intended to be being able to generate raw power by beating 3-A attack potency characters, but to actually warp reality in any way one wishes, without very specific circumstances and equipment, at the very least affecting a universal range of influence as well, and as I mentioned above, setting the lower border as not being able to even reach base infinite power and affect time on a universal scale, does not make sense in the first place for this type of statistic tier, so that should definitely be modified in order to prevent highly unqualified spam.
What scan are you talking about? Its implied he can recreate it if he wished in the novels.
This can only be considered a narrative. Is there any evidence that Urahara will create a hougyoku equal to or superior to Aizen? If so, I would appreciate it if you could send it again. Apart from this, thanks to the expression, the probability of being a supergenius can be taken as "possibly"
What we call Hougyoku contains many contradictions about super genius, everything you said is true, and even if Aizen is a super genius, most characters who are extraordinary geniuses will be smarter than Aizen, which is a separate contradiction in itself, because Aizen's FSEQ manipulation and long-term plan All of their indices are low except for the indices. at the level
Again, that was never stated nor implied; a nail of the soul king is what most fullbringers have, and they are weak. Having a nail of the soul king, which is also something that Rangiku had, does not give you any boost in power. And even if we lowball bleach to being a Low 2-C cosmology only (which is not the case), the Hogyoku can affect it.
When the world is referred to in bleach when talking about the soul king in the same paragraph and without clarifying which world (WoL, SS, HM), Then it's talking about the cosmology as a whole. And the other evidence is that it can make you into the soul king who has Low 2-C in his profile.
do you mean High 3-A reality warping and range?
I know the Hogyoku is able to affect the entire universe due to it being able to make a person as strong as the soul king, who's existence sustains Soul Society, World of the Living, and Hueco Mundo, which are separated by different space times. does this help any?
So did you just not see the line of that's a lie under it or what? Asking out of curiosity.
I would argue that since the Hogyoku allowed Aizen to Erase from existence, the Kototsu who controlled space and the Temporal dimension(or dimensions idk which one is accepted in the wiki) in the dangai plus it at least being able to affect the whole space-time of the bleach verse.
That was already addressed and responding with hostility will not help in the acceptance of this revisionSo did you just not see the line of that's a lie under it or what? Asking out of curiosity.
Also lets ignore the definition of frivolous to while we at it.
Kinda seems like you replied without facts.
Mind showing me the hostility or we just gonna go off feelings here? Cause nothing I said had hostility in it.
