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Warren Valion said:
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But they would be responsible for me
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Bleach Bankai General Discussion Thread XX
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But they would be responsible for me
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So you want slaves... essentially?AstralKing7 said:
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Look man.
The Quincies can't die out. This is for cultural reasons.
The Quincies can't die out. This is for cultural reasons.
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...It's all on Ichigo's lineage now...
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Shouldn't Lille be resistant to manipulation of perception or the like for not suffering the post-activation effects of Shunsui Bankai?
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Because that's what it is?Golfgan said:
Her stinger emits a poison that once strcuk twice in the same spot - kills the user.
And Aizen negated her posion with his own Reiatsu - he isn't resisting it.
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It's more like Poison negation
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@Warren Valio
Did she (or someone else) stated it was poison based? An ability can be both poison and death manip anyway. Death manip only requires instant kill, there is no requirement on the mean used according to the article.
The same is true with resistance, there is no requirement on the mean used : https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Resistance
"" Resistance is the ability to lessen the effectiveness of certain techniques and abilities through whatever means, such as greatly decreasing the potency of Mind Manipulation or nullifying it altogether. """
Passive negation through reiatsu is a mean like any other. It should logically qualify as a resistance.
Did she (or someone else) stated it was poison based? An ability can be both poison and death manip anyway. Death manip only requires instant kill, there is no requirement on the mean used according to the article.
The same is true with resistance, there is no requirement on the mean used : https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Resistance
"" Resistance is the ability to lessen the effectiveness of certain techniques and abilities through whatever means, such as greatly decreasing the potency of Mind Manipulation or nullifying it altogether. """
Passive negation through reiatsu is a mean like any other. It should logically qualify as a resistance.
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@Amlad22 : I think there was a thread stating this wiki won't give this kind of blanket resistance. And that Bleach characters will only be given resistance to what they have shown to resist either by feats or by statements.
@AppleLord : I'm pretty sure this was brought up once. But I think some people argued that there was no evidence Yamamoto or Shunsui (or other captains) tried to use their bankai on him.
@AppleLord : I'm pretty sure this was brought up once. But I think some people argued that there was no evidence Yamamoto or Shunsui (or other captains) tried to use their bankai on him.
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Hmm , i just wondering , so , Aura transported most part of big Castle in Garganta. But then , Nelliel find Aura soul , opened huge garganta (?) and probably "kick" castle near own houses . So , how big should be lifting strength to do it?
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This is some serious NLF IMOAmlad22 said:
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that's why it wasn't accepted
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I'm unable to tell online
so is it a light hearted response as in a joke
or is this a serious counter argument?
so is it a light hearted response as in a joke
or is this a serious counter argument?
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he linked aizen saying that his reiatsu is so huge that he can null others powers , the basis of the argument for bleach powernulling weaker beings.
so i'll guess it is a serious argument ?
i personally would give powernull to bleach characthers against far weaker chracthers but apparently it have been rejected before
so i'll guess it is a serious argument ?
i personally would give powernull to bleach characthers against far weaker chracthers but apparently it have been rejected before
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It's both a joke and a counter
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>This is some serious NLF IMO
Tbh I'd say it's decidedly not NLF to claim Aizen would have resistance to the set of hax at SS's disposal that would otherwise be able to kill a stationary functionally incapped shinigami in-verse with his level of regen. Stepping outside the boundaries of what we can confirm SS could replicate at or before the time of the statement is where NLF territory (doesn't necessarily but) ca start IMO.
Tbh I'd say it's decidedly not NLF to claim Aizen would have resistance to the set of hax at SS's disposal that would otherwise be able to kill a stationary functionally incapped shinigami in-verse with his level of regen. Stepping outside the boundaries of what we can confirm SS could replicate at or before the time of the statement is where NLF territory (doesn't necessarily but) ca start IMO.
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Endless makes a good point, just looking at SS alone, if Aizen can't be killed by then it means he should have resistance to things such as, Existence Erasure (we know this from Mugetsu but Yama's Bankai is extra proof), reality warping via Shunsui, death manipulation/poison manipulation via Soifon, Rose's illusions that cause death to those who hear them, Toshiro's power null, Rukia's absolute zero, any and all of Mayuri's drugs or creations, any kido ever created and more.
I recently made a list of all the hax Zaraki should have resistance to as well and should have added to his profile. Specifically transcendent Zaraki as these feats are only from his strongest state.
First idk if this is a thing, but Zaraki could harm Azashiro even when he was intangible and could neg Azashiros attempt at fusing with his body.
Against Cien he showed resistance to all of his hax which includes any hax Szayel has (possession, power mimicry, power nullification, durability negation via organ crushing)
It was also stated that none of the Espada could do anything to Zaraki, this should give him resistance to the hax of Aareniaro (Absorption) and Zommari (body control). Barragan's time dilation and age manipulation was also stated that it would not work on Zaraki.
So Aizen should have resistance to any hax ability found in SS added to his profile. And Zaraki should have at the very least, resistance to all the abilities stated above.
I recently made a list of all the hax Zaraki should have resistance to as well and should have added to his profile. Specifically transcendent Zaraki as these feats are only from his strongest state.
First idk if this is a thing, but Zaraki could harm Azashiro even when he was intangible and could neg Azashiros attempt at fusing with his body.
Against Cien he showed resistance to all of his hax which includes any hax Szayel has (possession, power mimicry, power nullification, durability negation via organ crushing)
It was also stated that none of the Espada could do anything to Zaraki, this should give him resistance to the hax of Aareniaro (Absorption) and Zommari (body control). Barragan's time dilation and age manipulation was also stated that it would not work on Zaraki.
So Aizen should have resistance to any hax ability found in SS added to his profile. And Zaraki should have at the very least, resistance to all the abilities stated above.
it's more like in-verse rule where the dude with low reiatsu can't affect the dude with the high reiatsu..not resistance
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Say that agai to Aizen.AppleLord said:
thats only soul reapers vs each other look at stern U.. his ability worked on aizen
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Guys - it's not a resistance, its power null.
And it is already on Aizen's profile.
Simply being stronger doesn't work - you need to actively manipulate your Reiatsu to crush the ability.
We actually see Aizen be affected the poison because of the mark that was made on his stomach, it disappeared because Aizen destroyed the poison with his Reiatsu.
And anyway, I don't know if we should take any feats from Aizen in that fight seriously, since it turned out to be an illusion. We don't know what was real and what wasn't.
And it is already on Aizen's profile.
Simply being stronger doesn't work - you need to actively manipulate your Reiatsu to crush the ability.
We actually see Aizen be affected the poison because of the mark that was made on his stomach, it disappeared because Aizen destroyed the poison with his Reiatsu.
And anyway, I don't know if we should take any feats from Aizen in that fight seriously, since it turned out to be an illusion. We don't know what was real and what wasn't.
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Fair enough, didn't notice. I'm not sure how you guys managed to have this accepted. I've expected blanket reiatsu power null to have been vetoed.Warren Valion said:
On the other hand, you're wrong about the mark, it never appeared on Aizen's chest .
Also I just found out where the claim her shikai is "Poison Manip" comes from : Episode 100 of the Bount arc. Do we even consider the Bount arc canon? If yes, which other filler arc are accepted as canon here? I'm sure we can find a ton of new resistances in filler arcs.
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I remember the bpunt arc being the only filler that was considered canon. Forgot why tho
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hhhm , no the bount isn't canon either .
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so unimportant here .
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Pretty sure the only canon thing from the anime is the small Ashido side story under the desert since Kubo planned to have it in the manga but couldn't find the time.
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