Bayonetta Tier Upgrades and changes

[Comicgyal]

Yeah, I’ll start on some profiles. There will be no more 3-A keys

 

[Comicgyal]

Some of the profiles are locked btw

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Isn't the only locked one Bayonetta?

 

[Comicgyal]

Yeah, I think

 

[Comicgyal]

While I slowly do these revisions, how does everyone feel about witch time?

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

As far as I saw, no one had any disagreements with it.

 

[Antvasima]

I will unlock Bayonetta. Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

I applied the revisions to bayonettas page, you can re-lock her profile now.

All that’s left is Alrune’s, Jeanne’s, and Little King Zero’s I believe.

But real quick, can we agree to delete the keys on Jeanne’s profile? Neither of her keys have different abilities from one another, and they both have the same exact scaling. I’m not even sure why the key was ever there to begin with.

 

[Comicgyal]

Yeah, makes sense

 

[Comicgyal]

Are we scaling Loki to Bayonetta?

 

[Antvasima]

Do I need to unlock any other pages for this revision?

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Are we scaling Loki to Bayonetta?

Absolutely not. Loki has never displayed anything showing him capable of scaling to bayo, and she pretty much treats him like a joke even when he was blatantly hostile towards him at first when he prepared to throw a card at her.

The reason why loptr scales is because unlike Loki, he actually has a demonstration showing he can keep up with her in combat and even KO her. Loptr also explicitly stated he empowered himself using evil human hearts, something Loki did not do, so Loki shouldn’t scale to him either.

Do I need to unlock any other pages for this revision?

No. Thanks for the help though.

 

[Comicgyal]

Next we need to have the discussion of which summons and angels logically scale to Bayonetta. I need we have disagreements, but the Cardinal virtues have all fought Bayonetta while she was serious.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

That’s been discussed and near universally rejected, but that’s a topic for another day.

 

[Theglassman12]

Hey, sorry for the long delay, had to make a nearly full recovery. So whats happened since I was gone?

 

[Comicgyal]

Why was that rejected?

Hey, sorry for the long delay, had to make a nearly full recovery. So whats happened since I was gone?

2-C for one eye wielders was accepted, 2-A is on hold for another time, witch time is gonna be time manip and an amp again

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Hey, sorry for the long delay, had to make a nearly full recovery. So whats happened since I was gone?

2-A was rejected, everything else was accepted and applying revisions are nearly completed.

 

[Antvasima]

Welcome back Glassman. I hope that you will feel better soon.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Why was that rejected?

We talked about this in the discussion thread a while back ago. Demons who are on or above the cardinal’s level have been effortlessly one-shot multiple times by people on bayo’s level. Bayo going serious mode against them doesn’t necessarily mean she was having a struggle against them, as it could merely just mean she’s angry at them.

 

[Theglassman12]

what’s the argument for the one eye wielders being flat out 2-C? Can you also post scans so we can start somewhere?

@Antvasima I’m better to the point I can comment on threads now without hurting myself, but it’s still got some time until the injury goes away.

 

[Comicgyal]

what’s the argument for the one eye wielders being flat out 2-C? Can you also post scans so we can start somewhere?

@Antvasima I’m better to the point I can comment on threads now without hurting myself, but it’s still got some time until the injury goes away.

i recommend reading the most recent pages to understand the arguments made, and the agreements staff came to. Since it would be a bit of a waste to rehash arguments again

 

[Comicgyal]

Do I need to unlock any other pages for this revision?

I’ve finished the tier revisions, I’ll be added the time manipulation to the changes now. So I believe we’re okay here.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you.

Let's wait a bit for Glassman first though.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Bump…?

 

[Theglassman12]

Gonna take me some time to read through the arguments, currently juggling another series for revisions so I’ll try to respond by the weekend.

 

[Comicgyal]

I’m not going to rush you, but don’t take too long. We have another crt to do, and this thread had a lot of arguments that were debunked. So only bring new arguments if you’re against 2-C, thanks.

 

[Galens]

If I remember correctly, a summary of the arguments on level 2-C was published.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Bump...

 

[Antvasima]

What is left to do here?

 

[Comicgyal]

Nothing. Glass said he would respond by this weekend, but it’s Sunday.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

We've applied virtually all the revisions to every page.

 

[Comicgyal]

Based on the number of arguments debunked, and staff approval, it’s safe to say that 2-C is sound. So this thread could be closed and we can finish up revisions for hax.

 

[Comicgyal]

Just added time manip back to all pages except Bayonetta since it is locked.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Time slow is already on there.

 

[Comicgyal]

It’s just the description of witch time at the bottom.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Oh okay.

 

[Antvasima]

@Theglassman12

Can you comment here soon please?

 

[Theglassman12]

I will, stop rushing me.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Sorry man, but its kinda hard not to when you showed up last minute just as the last of revisions were going to be applied and then proceeded to not follow up with a response for nearly half a week, while also claiming to be handling revisions for other verses. Oh yeah, not to mention this was already debated for 2-3 pages straight and already approved by multiple sysops and staff.

 

[Theglassman12]

What part of "I’ll try to respond by the weekend" do you not understand? It's at the weekend and I will respond, have some patience for once.