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Uh I provide all the scans that I quote in the OP. Furthermore, regardless of what you think, being caught off guard isn’t an anti feat. Unfortunately no matter how many times you bring up Isshiki being caught off guard, that doesn’t debunk his scaling.That's still not enough to declare him above ESTO and not even Kaguya. Firstly, where was it said that he is the strongest threat they have fighting? and even if that statement exists, why would it necessarily be above ESTO? here on the site we consider the destructive power of ESTO as EE, and that doesn't scale to her physique, the High 4-C tier comes from the power of creation of dimensions.