Awarding Boruto Many Success Achievements Via Shippuden Achievements Of Success

[Damage3245]

I can’t force you to participate but I’d still appreciate your participation.



and “nothing can prevent it” as a statement is a clear indication of the future

I can't even get you to see things my way on a simple narrator statement. I can't possibly argue with you on the rest of the contents of the OP.

I knew this day was coming as soon as I saw that calc group thread for the Chibaku Tensei calc. The best possible thing for my mental health is to just ignore this revision and let people enjoy their super-strong characters.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Anyway, I agree with all of this. You did a phenomenal job putting all of this together, Arc.

I agree with the 5-B end for Toneri and BSM Naruto scaling, but I would be fine with the Low 5-B+ end if anyone can give good reasons for it.

My only “contention” would be that One-Rinnegan Juubidara should downscale to baseline 5-B as opposed to Low 5-B+ and Guy’s AP should scale to him all around (not just with Night Guy) since he was already overwhelming Madara with the first attack of Evening Elephant.

I'm not sure we dont know how large the gap is between approaching Hagoromo and actually being at Hags level, wouldnt it be a safer bet to scale him to the casual feat than Hagoromo's main feat?

 

[Tllmbrg]

i wasn’t under the assumption they were paralysis hax but if that’s true, then he wouldn’t scale yeah.

While rn his page does not list I think it's kinda evident it doesn't translate to physicals 1 to 1
It is Shadow Possession Jutsu and every time we see him use it on people he just freezes them so

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

wouldnt it be a safer bet to scale him to the casual feat than Hagoromo's main feat?

The casual feat was performed by a much stronger version of Madara that had undergone 3 additional amps (God Tree absorption, second Rinnegan, and Sharinnegan)

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

While rn his page does not list I think it's kinda evident it doesn't translate to physicals 1 to 1
It is Shadow Possession Jutsu and every time we see him use it on people he just freezes them so

Didn't Shikimaru impale Hidan using them before? I could've sworn he used them as an actual attack at least once.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Didn't Shikimaru impale Hidan using them before? I could've sworn he used them as an actual attack at least once.

he uses it to strangle people

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Now I just need @Wrath_Of_Itachi to slide for Urashiki.

He's way too inconsistent to scale.

 

[LordTracer]

Didn't Shikimaru impale Hidan using them before? I could've sworn he used them as an actual attack at least once.

Yeah, he could stab Hidan with it.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

While rn his page does not list I think it's kinda evident it doesn't translate to physicals 1 to 1
It is Shadow Possession Jutsu and every time we see him use it on people he just freezes them so

It's not really paralysis hax, as he's both used it as an attack and it was overpowered via sheer AP in the past (Tayuya for instance), but you're correct in that it does not scale to his physicals. It never has.

 

[LordTracer]

overpowered via sheer AP in the past (Tayuya for instance)

Shikamaru also implied that Gaara could’ve done it back in the Chūnin Exams.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

It's not really paralysis hax, as he's both used it as an attack and it was overpowered via sheer AP in the past (Tayuya for instance), but you're correct in that it does not scale to his physicals. It never has.

So he can get 5-B with Shadow Possession for locking down Kinshiki, right? Or at least scale to his LS?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I can't even get you to see things my way on a simple narrator statement. I can't possibly argue with you on the rest of the contents of the OP.

I knew this day was coming as soon as I saw that calc group thread for the Chibaku Tensei calc. The best possible thing for my mental health is to just ignore this revision and let people enjoy their super-strong characters.

Well in that case I’m sorry you feel that way. This thread will be open for a while , so feel free to come back to it.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

So he can get 5-B with Shadow Possession for locking down Kinshiki, right? Or at least scale to his LS?

Yes. There's also a statement in his novel for being able to snap all of the Gokage's necks with it. I think @Wrath_Of_Itachi has it.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Yes. There's also a statement in his novel for being able to snap all of the Gokage's necks with it. I think @Wrath_Of_Itachi has it.

Man, don't sleep on Shikimaru. Man's could be a ******* Savage if he actually put the effort in.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Btw, I'm gonna comment my thoughts on certain things here later. I'm currently at the gym, so can't respond to things properly.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Shikamaru does take a kick from Branco which is just a repurposed delta, so his durability would still scale.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Shikamaru has also dodged a kick from a bloodlusted Delta. so he scales in speed as well

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I’m not really touching speed here, just AP/Dura tbh

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

yeah but it does highlight shikamaru's consistency

as it's very rare in nard to have someone be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stronger while also being magnitudes slower.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

No that’s cool I get what you’re saying, I just don’t plan on touching speed stats if I end up editing the profiles.

 

[GTsek]

I agree with Damage on some points, like the Kages. Not only that, Sakura is also a problem, Naruto and Sasuke are declared more than once as the ONLY ones capable of standing up to the Ootsutsuki, and are narratively placed on an EXTREMELY high level compared to the others. Also, most of the standard God Tiers have a justification for being level 5 or above, but some characters there simply don't have a consistency and may just be PIS. I also disagree with Isshiki being on any scale other than 5-B, if he was 5-A or 4-C, how was he destroyed by Kaguya apparently before eating the fruit? the scale doesn't make sense, Isshiki should continue at "5-B, Higher" until we have more information about him and Kaguya, because being higher in HIERARCHY doesn't put him thousands of times stronger than Kaguya, see the example of Momoshiki and Kinshiki, they are different in the hierarchy but have practically the same level.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Naruto and Sasuke are declared more than once as the ONLY ones capable of standing up to the Ootsutsuki

Naruto and Sasuke at full power are stronger and or more haxed so not a contradiction.

how was he destroyed by Kaguya apparently before eating the fruit

A) we don’t know how B) he was off guard, not a defeater.

 

[ssgengar]

Obviously I agree, thanks for taking the time to do this arc

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Disagree FRA

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Agreed

Showed much consistency in this too so I don't really see why anyone would call outlier either

 

[ssgengar]

I agree with Damage on some points, like the Kages. Not only that, Sakura is also a problem, Naruto and Sasuke are declared more than once as the ONLY ones capable of standing up to the Ootsutsuki, and are narratively placed on an EXTREMELY high level compared to the others. Also, most of the standard God Tiers have a justification for being level 5 or above, but some characters there simply don't have a consistency and may just be PIS. I also disagree with Isshiki being on any scale other than 5-B, if he was 5-A or 4-C, how was he destroyed by Kaguya apparently before eating the fruit? the scale doesn't make sense, Isshiki should continue at "5-B, Higher" until we have more information about him and Kaguya, because being higher in HIERARCHY doesn't put him thousands of times stronger than Kaguya, see the example of Momoshiki and Kinshiki, they are different in the hierarchy but have practically the same level.

He was caught off guard? Amado explained all of this

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Cuz being off-guard suddenly allows someone tens of times weaker than you to bifurcate you.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Cuz being off-guard suddenly allows someone tens of times weaker than you to bifurcate you.

Yes it does. Being off guard can allow whoever to do whatever the plot demands to stronger characters.

 

[Damage3245]

Yes it does. Being off guard can allow whoever to do whatever the plot demands to stronger characters.

Such as Kinshiki being unexpectedly punched by the Tsuchikage and knocked through the air?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Such as Kinshiki being unexpectedly punched by the Tsuchikage and knocked through the air?

It wasn’t unexpected, she literally appeared right in front of him.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

I feel that the scaling for a number of these characters seems to be outliers: such as the Kage and especially Shikamaru

 

[LordTracer]

I feel that the scaling for a number of these characters seems to be outliers: such as the Kage and especially Shikamaru

You need to explain why they’re outliers, you can’t just say that they are.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I feel that the scaling for a number of these characters seems to be outliers: such as the Kage and especially Shikamaru

Not when they have explicit and direct feats and statements.

 

[GTsek]

Isshiki off guard supposedly drops his defency from 4-C to less than 5-B...

The Kinshiki caught by surprise doesn't make his defency inferior, but it makes the Kages on the same level as him...

The arguments here sound pretty partial.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Isshiki off guard supposedly drops his defency from 4-C to less than 5-B...

The Kinshiki caught by surprise doesn't make his defency inferior, but it makes the Kages on the same level as him...

The arguments here sound pretty partial.

Isshiki being negged while off guard doesn’t debunk my argument unfortunately. Kinshiki wasn’t caught off guard either, look at the scans, she appeared right in front of his eyes.

 

[Damage3245]

Isshiki being negged while off guard doesn’t debunk my argument unfortunately. Kinshiki wasn’t caught off guard either, look at the scans, she appeared right in front of his eyes.

Was he expecting her to appear there? It looks like she took him completely by surprise by appearing from out of a cloud of smoke.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

We quite literally see Kinshiki see Tsuchikage appear. Tsuchikage also harms Kinshiki with her jutsu too.

 

[GTsek]

Isshiki being negged while off guard doesn’t debunk my argument unfortunately. Kinshiki wasn’t caught off guard either, look at the scans, she appeared right in front of his eyes.

That's still not enough to declare him above ESTO and not even Kaguya. Firstly, where was it said that he is the strongest threat they have fighting? and even if that statement exists, why would it necessarily be above ESTO? here on the site we consider the destructive power of ESTO as EE, and that doesn't scale to her physique, the High 4-C tier comes from the power of creation of dimensions.

 

[UltimatePharaoh]

Sorry but Ugly, Disgusting, and Awful,... Refuse to Elaborate Why... Leaves.

Never thought I will ever agree with Damage on anything, but here you are... congratulation OP you did the impossible.

 

[LordTracer]

Firstly, where was it said that he is the strongest threat they have fighting?

It’s literally in the OP-