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According to here Power Stars were used to create worlds in paintings, but if this thread hasn't made itself clear I'm hear to tell everyone that isn't really the case
Now the points that I'm going to bring up were addressed in previous Mario CRTs over a year ago, but those threads became such big toxic messes that they got lost in the shuffle
I'd rather though attempt to try again with a scalpel than a sledgehammer this time
Now the sources that we use of the game and guide definitely do cite power stars are being able to create world, but if you actually decide to dig deeper to uncover the Japanese text of Mario 64, you find out that's not exactly the case.
Mistranslations happen all the time, and Mario 64 came out when it was rampant. I have two translations of the orignal Japanese text, I'll give the translation and the sources below:
Great! You came! Princess Peach and we are locked inside the wall
Bowser is trying to create a monster world inside the wall and the pictures by using power starts! Get them (the starts) back!
When you get few stars back, the door will open. Search the 4 rooms on the first floor!
First, you can go into the first room on the left. This room eluded the seal!
When you retrieve 8 stars, you can open big start door. Princess peach must be in there!
first page:Bowser used power star to create kingdom of monsters inside walls and paintings.Recapture the stars!
second page:After a few stars recaptured,you can open Bowser's closed doors.Please search 4 rooms at a time and proceed.
third page:First of all, go to the room with Bob-omb painting on your left.Only this room's seal is removed.
last page:8 power stars are required to open the big star door.Without question,princess peach is just inside!
So as we see above here the translations don't support that Bowser is actually creating worlds inside the paintings but more of going inside and either establishing a kingdom in the worlds of the paintings or converting those worlds into his own image.
This invalidates not only the translation we rely on, but also the guide as well since Nintendo Power is an English source that relies on English translations. And unless anyone in the chat is willing to go buy the Japanese Version, the best option would be to dump out the current guide statement.
To hammer in my point more in the original Japanese text, there is no mention of せかい/world or かい/world, Toad only said 'カイブツのくに' which means 'Monster Kingdom'
Also to hammer in my point even more these worlds within the paintings have their own histories like Bob-Omb battlefield, Occum's Razor would suggest that these worlds existed beforehand and Bowser invaded and took them over instead of creating them outright. You would have to make so many leaps and bounds in logic to justify how Bowser can create worlds with their own histories, it's not like Bowser is the Visionary or Alien X.
Leave your comments below on whether you agree or not.
Now the points that I'm going to bring up were addressed in previous Mario CRTs over a year ago, but those threads became such big toxic messes that they got lost in the shuffle
I'd rather though attempt to try again with a scalpel than a sledgehammer this time
Now the sources that we use of the game and guide definitely do cite power stars are being able to create world, but if you actually decide to dig deeper to uncover the Japanese text of Mario 64, you find out that's not exactly the case.
Mistranslations happen all the time, and Mario 64 came out when it was rampant. I have two translations of the orignal Japanese text, I'll give the translation and the sources below:
Great! You came! Princess Peach and we are locked inside the wall
Bowser is trying to create a monster world inside the wall and the pictures by using power starts! Get them (the starts) back!
When you get few stars back, the door will open. Search the 4 rooms on the first floor!
First, you can go into the first room on the left. This room eluded the seal!
When you retrieve 8 stars, you can open big start door. Princess peach must be in there!
first page:Bowser used power star to create kingdom of monsters inside walls and paintings.Recapture the stars!
second page:After a few stars recaptured,you can open Bowser's closed doors.Please search 4 rooms at a time and proceed.
third page:First of all, go to the room with Bob-omb painting on your left.Only this room's seal is removed.
last page:8 power stars are required to open the big star door.Without question,princess peach is just inside!
So as we see above here the translations don't support that Bowser is actually creating worlds inside the paintings but more of going inside and either establishing a kingdom in the worlds of the paintings or converting those worlds into his own image.
This invalidates not only the translation we rely on, but also the guide as well since Nintendo Power is an English source that relies on English translations. And unless anyone in the chat is willing to go buy the Japanese Version, the best option would be to dump out the current guide statement.
To hammer in my point more in the original Japanese text, there is no mention of せかい/world or かい/world, Toad only said 'カイブツのくに' which means 'Monster Kingdom'
Also to hammer in my point even more these worlds within the paintings have their own histories like Bob-Omb battlefield, Occum's Razor would suggest that these worlds existed beforehand and Bowser invaded and took them over instead of creating them outright. You would have to make so many leaps and bounds in logic to justify how Bowser can create worlds with their own histories, it's not like Bowser is the Visionary or Alien X.
Leave your comments below on whether you agree or not.
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