Ara Ara Mother vs Smiling Kid (Raikou vs Luck Voltia)

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

If It's just a speed amp than no if it also changes the tier than it can be restricted

Say the blitz can one shot apperently

 

[Epsilon_R]

Because Milly insisted that Ultimate Magic absolutely blitz her I restricted that some comments ago.

Then he would start with Ceranos, which should one shot her as well.

If It's just a speed amp than no if it also changes the tier than it can be restricted

That's actually true, I forgot about that

 

[Schnee_One]

Luck blitzes

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Then Monkey vote should be removed as he just messing around

I'm waiting for fate supporters to defend her... If they can't I'll switch to Luck.

Thinking Monkey trolling are a little bit annoying to say

"I'm not biased, but that guy is a lot"

- most biased guy I've seen

How? Never been baised with versus matches (I said kinda because I like One Piece more than others shows but I'll never be biased to make a character win or lie how strong they are). I only pick the one who wins... actually wins.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Honestly this is a really bad match-up because Luck can just blitz blitz and blitz, what so interesting about it?

Change it to Asta or Yami would be thematic instead this boring blitzer boi

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

maybe use his old keys?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

I'm thought in change it to the second key of Luck (or made later apart a match with the second key from the beginning) and if needed make it that he begin with Thunder God Armor already in use so speed is really equal (though don't know if that last part is needed). I do it?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Honestly this is a really bad match-up because Luck can just blitz blitz and blitz, what so interesting about it?

Change it to Asta or Yami would be thematic instead this boring blitzer boi

Yikes, they are not much better, considering they’re faster with better amps.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Yikes, they are not much better, considering they’re faster with better amps.

How about Yuno then?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Honestly this is a really bad match-up because Luck can just blitz blitz and blitz, what so interesting about it?

Change it to Asta or Yami would be thematic instead this boring blitzer boi

Blitz is bad
Pick Asta or Yami

??

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

??

What? I didn't know they are worse than Luck so don't look at me like that

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

How about Yuno then?

Even worse, AOEs that spawn on you, passive molecular disintegration, IR+Precog, RPL comparable to Asta, etc...

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Even worse, AOEs that spawn on you, passive molecular disintegration, IR+Precog, RPL comparable to Asta, etc...

Motherf***er, is there any BC chars that aren't busted and aren't resolving "muh blitz"?

 

[Epsilon_R]

Motherf***er, is there any BC chars that aren't busted and aren't resolving "muh blitz"?

I'm trying to think but all the others High 6-Cs are worse than Luck (not on the speed amp side but hax)

The only characters I can think of is Mereoleona (If Raikou can resist her heat that is) and Noelle, who's nearly haxless so it wouldn't be a fun fight

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I'm trying to think but all the others High 6-Cs are worse than Luck (not on the speed amp side but hax)

The only characters I can think of is Mereoleona (If Raikou can resist her heat that is) and Noelle, who's nearly haxless so it wouldn't be a fun fight

Mereoleona heat get resisted thanks for the servant physiology, also Raikou is 6-C btw

 

[Epsilon_R]

Honestly this is a really bad match-up because Luck can just blitz blitz and blitz, what so interesting about it?

Change it to Asta or Yami would be thematic instead this boring blitzer boi

They don't have crazy speed amps like Luck but Yami starts with Dimension Slash, which is Dura neg GG. And I wouldn't suggest Asta against characters that rely too much on magic

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

They don't have crazy speed amps like Luck but Yami starts with Dimension Slash, which is Dura neg GG. And I wouldn't suggest Asta against characters that rely too much on magic

Yeah, these two might be not a good opponent for Raikou, but as for Yami maybe against a more broken servants will be much better (Achilles maybe? His invul would'nt work against Dimensional Slash)

Also i answered your doubt on Mereoleona above

 

[Schnee_One]

Thing is speed amps are not a big deal in BC but are absolute bullshit in vs matches

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Thing is speed amps are not a big deal in BC but are absolute bullshit in vs matches

This, i agree with this

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Even worse, AOEs that spawn on you, passive molecular disintegration, IR+Precog, RPL comparable to Asta, etc...

They don't have crazy speed amps like Luck but Yami starts with Dimension Slash, which is Dura neg GG. And I wouldn't suggest Asta against characters that rely too much on magic

Many servants also have durability negation (and dura neg with spatial magic would be resisted by servants with Magic Resistance Rank D or above), precog, IR (even Raikou should have it but that's something more to add for many servants in other crt), so that type of things aren't unknown to servants, less to servants like Raikou.

And Asta I honestly don't think would be able to negate the magic of most casters of fate, not that matter because Raikou don't use magic.

With Yami I didn't thought in make a match but with Asta yes.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

As far as i remember, servants can't resist the spatial shred as @KnightOfSunlight said in Raikou vs Vergil

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

As far as i remember, servants can't resist the spatial shred as @KnightOfSunlight said in Raikou vs Vergil

He was the only person I have heard say that, so unless others also confirm that (like Crimson for example or Regi) it's pure headcanon of him.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Many servants also have durability negation (and dura neg with spatial magic would be resisted by servants with Magic Resistance Rank D or above), precog, IR (even Raikou should have it but that's something more to add for many servants in other crt), so that type of things aren't unknown to servants, less to servants like Raikou.

Yeah, I said Disintegration, not whatever most of that is. Precog is more also analytical prediction.

And Asta I honestly don't think would be able to negate the magic of most casters of fate, not that matter because Raikou don't use magic.

Doubt as well.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Mereoleona heat get resisted thanks for the servant physiology, also Raikou is 6-C btw

Good luck with that, Mana Zone boosts her magic & heat.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Yeah, I said Disintegration, not whatever most of that. Precog is more also analytical prediction.

The precog I talk is more literal precog, if you talk about analytical prediction then many servants also have that.

Good luck with that, Mana Zone boosts her magic & heat.

How hot is?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

The precog I talk is more literal precog, if you talk about analytical prediction then many servants also have that.

How hot is?

Should be comparable to Salamander, who’s claws can boil a lake.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Many servants also have durability negation (and dura neg with spatial magic would be resisted by servants with Magic Resistance Rank D or above), precog, IR (even Raikou should have it but that's something more to add for many servants in other crt), so that type of things aren't unknown to servants, less to servants like Raikou.

Resistance to Durability Negation is not really that relevant if the type of Dura Neg that they resist is not the same as the one that others characters does, there has different types of Dura Neg

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Resistance to Durability Negation is not really that relevant if the type of Dura Neg that they resist is not the same as the one that others characters does, there has different types of Dura Neg

Yeah, I know there are different types of dura neg, Magic Resistance Rank D resist spatial manip.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Anyway we can make Raikou vs Mereoleona later, the only major threat for her is the potent heat control, otherwise seems to be a more fairer and balanced match

 

[Loyd]

Magic Resistance Rank D resist spatial manip.

can i get a scan for that? how much does it negs spatial manip i'd be surprised if raikou walked off a dimension slash without severe damage

 

[Rez]

can i get a scan for that? how much does it negs spatial manip i'd be surprised if raikou walked off a dimension slash without severe damage

Just go to Servant physiology page

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

can i get a scan for that? how much does it negs spatial manip i'd be surprised if raikou walked off a dimension slash without severe damage

"Servants with Rank D Magic Resistance can Cancel a bubble of frozen space, which was stated to freeze time as a consequence."

 

[Loyd]

looks like a struggle to resist spatial manip, and if i had D rank magic resist i'd rather try and break out of a space freeze then shrug of a space cut.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

looks like a struggle to resist spatial manip, and if i had D rank magic resist i'd rather try and break out of a space freeze then shrug of a space cut.

Basically that

 

[Regidian]

Luck should blitz like other people tell.


We know that mana burst boost but we don't know by how much.

Should be comparable to Salamander, who’s claws can boil a lake.

Actually the heat resistance of servant is a little weird. As it can go to resist lava, to resist the np of surtr who have heat up to 4M °C

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Actually the heat resistance of servant is a little weird. As it can go to resist lava, to resist the np of surtr who have heat up to 4M °C

Well, now that's pretty odd

Again, we can proof it in Mereoleona vs Raikou thread.....what? Don't look at me, i still need to make that Raikou vs Obito thread

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Actually the heat resistance of servant is a little weird. As it can go to resist lava, to resist the np of surtr who have heat up to 4M °C

With Surt wasn't that they resist because the characteristic of his np?

 

[Regidian]

With Surt wasn't that they resist because the characteristic of his np?

They resist His np, who do the death thing and the heat

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

They resist His np, who do the death thing and the heat

But I mean, the reason as to why they can resist the heat of the NP wouldn't be because of the death thing? If the heat is something apart of the death thematic then fair.

 

[Regidian]

But I mean, the reason as to why they can resist the heat of the NP wouldn't be because of the death thing? If the heat is something apart of the death thematic then fair.

For what i know it's appart