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Thor FRA.
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A Puny Monkey gets to fight a God. Son Goku vs Thor Odinson (24-20-0). status: ADDED
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Did you even read any of the Goku arguments? The fight won't last that long with Goku's advantage in every category. And abilities that haven't been seen or used in decades are Out of character.Malomtek said:
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Thor having hax than Goku which he cannot resist which he would use eventually even if he doesn't open with it whilst he is more skilled (I'm not going to argue about skill because it has already been argued about and I agree with the Thor side). Thor can also survive beatings from people much stronger and Goku isn't the type to just kill unconditionally. He would restrict himself to Thor's level to have a good fight or something and get schooled skill wise.
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His main win-con is landing a Thermo-Blast
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Oh so this is one of those threads, where fanboys try to manufacture a win for their favored characters via some kind of bullshit. In this case, it's Son Goku and this "out of character" gimmick.
@Nitro90 Thor has fought, endured, and survived against much harder people than Goku, so don't even start there. Also, go look at Thor's page for his haxes.
@UchihaSlayer96 "The fight won't last that long with Goku's advantage in every category." By which you mean his unquantifiable superiority to baseline solar system level, got it. Still won't get him beating Thor.
"And abilities that haven't been seen or used in decades are Out of character." That's a pretty big assumption that none of Thor's haxes have been applied in decades. It's, of course, backed up by nothing at all.
@Nitro90 Thor has fought, endured, and survived against much harder people than Goku, so don't even start there. Also, go look at Thor's page for his haxes.
@UchihaSlayer96 "The fight won't last that long with Goku's advantage in every category." By which you mean his unquantifiable superiority to baseline solar system level, got it. Still won't get him beating Thor.
"And abilities that haven't been seen or used in decades are Out of character." That's a pretty big assumption that none of Thor's haxes have been applied in decades. It's, of course, backed up by nothing at all.
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This isn't a valid vote. Might as well invoke the meme "Janemba wins via speed and hax".Malomtek said:
Specify what hax, how does he apply them and/or an scenario in which it might help him.
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@Malomtek
Maybe start reading the previous thread and this one before pulling baseless accusations out of nowhere.
The AP advantage was quantified and accepted numerous times, so drop that nonsense already.
Maybe start reading the previous thread and this one before pulling baseless accusations out of nowhere.
The AP advantage was quantified and accepted numerous times, so drop that nonsense already.
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Out of character isn't a gimmick like if you think it is than Goku transforms and one shot. And calling us fanboys isn't helping anything expect for making this toxic
"Thor has fought, endured, and survived against much harder people than Goku, so don't even start there. Also, go look at Thor's page for his hax."
I already know Thors abilites and that doesn't matter sense Goku AP can be higher
"Thor has fought, endured, and survived against much harder people than Goku, so don't even start there. Also, go look at Thor's page for his hax."
I already know Thors abilites and that doesn't matter sense Goku AP can be higher
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This is getting cancerous, closing this, it ended as an incon.
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I reopened it on someone's request. One bad apple doesn't ruin the batch. We're better than that. While I do think Thor wins (if I hadn't made that clear enough), it shouldn't be a result of someone being a mean dude about it.
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@Cal
Thank you, once again.
Thank you, once again.
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Thanks Cal.The real cal howard said:
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I will respectfully ask you to drop your attitude.Malomtek said:
Now, that's a little better. However, in the scenario in which this fight is taking place, essentially an "I don't know who this is but I wanna fight him until one or the other is dead", will Thor do any of that from the start? Because I highly doubt it and would appreciate scans of such mentality.
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Thor wouldn't even use 'hax later in the fight' he has a greater chance of going with his warrior's madness before even remembering he has them and everyone know he hates his warrior's madness, pretty sure the fight end either way 9.999/10 without Thor even THINKING about his hax, even the Thor side agreed on that.
That's like saying Goku would open the fight with an IT kienzan combo, unless they are bloodlusted, that's not something you'll see, same for Thor and his hax, even when willing to kill, that's simply not something those characters do.
That's like saying Goku would open the fight with an IT kienzan combo, unless they are bloodlusted, that's not something you'll see, same for Thor and his hax, even when willing to kill, that's simply not something those characters do.
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Dude why are you picking a "Modern" Thor. Thor has a plethora of comics where he uses hax.
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This reasoning is certainly a more valid one. However, Goku still has the possibility of dodging through IT.Malomtek said:
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I will respectfully ask you to drop your attitude.
Now, that's a little better. However, in the scenario in which this fight is taking place, essentially an "I don't know who this is but I wanna fight him until one or the other is dead", will Thor do any of that from the start? Because I highly doubt it and would appreciate scans of such mentality.
The "mentality" or whatever this is is a red herring. If Thor used it in canon, then he can use it here. It doesn't matter whether he necessarily "starts off with it", just that he does use it.
Now, that's a little better. However, in the scenario in which this fight is taking place, essentially an "I don't know who this is but I wanna fight him until one or the other is dead", will Thor do any of that from the start? Because I highly doubt it and would appreciate scans of such mentality.
The "mentality" or whatever this is is a red herring. If Thor used it in canon, then he can use it here. It doesn't matter whether he necessarily "starts off with it", just that he does use it.
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If it was a fight comparing their raw power and moveset, sure. Thor wins 100% of the time.
However, this fight also contrasts their approaches to combat and mentality. In essentially, treat it as an in-story fight. That's what we do in this site.
If it was a fight comparing their raw power and moveset, sure. Thor wins 100% of the time.
However, this fight also contrasts their approaches to combat and mentality. In essentially, treat it as an in-story fight. That's what we do in this site.
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Ok since "In character" doesn't matter. Then Goku goes SS3 where he's a lot stronger than Thor, charges a Kamehameha while simultaneously dodging everything with IT and then uses warp kamehameha to one-shot. GG
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Or in other words, we are trying to see who wins based not just on their stats, but also their character and their reactions mid-fight to each other. That's why we argue skill and experience.
If we just compared stats and powers, then it honestly would be boring. Add to that that it isn't a proper metric since it ignores large parts of a character, and it becomes an invalid approach.
If we just compared stats and powers, then it honestly would be boring. Add to that that it isn't a proper metric since it ignores large parts of a character, and it becomes an invalid approach.
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This is like saying Cole bio-leeches every opponent he fights even though that's explicitly against his character. Or that Spider-man will beat his opponent to a bloody pulp in a blind rage because he did that against Kingpin once. Or that Sandman will force himself down his wnemies thoat and blow them up from the inside because he did that in an elseworld story. Character context matters dude. Just because we know they can doesn't mean they will in a random fight.
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Ok, but what about Goku's mindset? It's not like he's going to go for the kill either and he always holds back against weaker opponents. Even against Freiza he didn't kill him and saved him after everything he did. It's like IF Goku beats Thor up, which I still don't believe he'll have the skill to do, he'll just say "Nice sparring session, makes sure you come back next week".
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"In character but willing to kill" is the Standard Battle Assumption.EmperorRorepme said:
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That's a gross mischaracterization of Goku. Specially since, under SBA, he is willing to kill.
That's a gross mischaracterization of Goku. Specially since, under SBA, he is willing to kill.
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No it isn't. He's still in character though and can easily choose not to kill.
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Goku has a different mindset when it's a fight to the death, especially in Super manga. If he finds Thor going for the kill he won't just stand there and take it. And he holds back against people MUCH weaker than himself. Especially when you think about him normally having access to SSB, of course he'd hold back against people trillions of times weaker than him lol.EmperorRorepme said:
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What change in mindset? Because even against Freiza, which was a fight to the death, he chose not to kill.
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Except Goku has already faced absorber and has tanked his own kamehameha, unless he put everything he has in one kamehameha he throw recklessly, it won't win Thor the fight, especialy since Goku can just dodge or IT, Thor wouldn't even absorb Goku's kamehameha or ki blast the first few times anyway, which is a pretty big window for Goku to win to begin with.Malomtek said:
Hell, it's perfectly in character for Goku to trick Thor on that with a warp kamehameha.
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Why would he? Thor under SBA will be trying to kill him and so will Goku. He's not an idiot. He'll defend himself and kill if necessary. Goku isn't merciful he's just prone to leaving people alive for potential future fights lol.EmperorRorepme said:
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