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Comparable skill to Emiya is ... questionable. Who are the main guys GG fights (skilled ones obviously)? Gonna go watch whoever they are.
 
In that case, wouldn't EMIYA have some difficulty landing his NP?

Gildedguy can solidly take this if he has enough time to amp.
 
Jade would be the big one, I'll post some feats for her when I get home in about half an hour unless Cal wants to do it for me
 
Tracing grants Emiya full knowledge of the weapon's history including the reactive evolution GG undergoes since the weapon was there for it as well..
 
Keep in mind. EMIYA fights with Gun swords. If they are going hand to hand, it would be completely in character for him to fire it point blank while they are in a clash
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Comparable skill to Emiya is ... questionable. Who are the main guys GG fights (skilled ones obviously)? Gonna go watch whoever they are.
Jade's the big one. As the leader of Nemesis, she's got quite a few notable feats. She beat Umbrella and Umbrella considers her an equal. Umbrella was able to beat FLFFL, who won the RHG tournament. ShadowRose recognizes her power, she beat Oxob, and she orchestrated the takedown of the Umbrella Corporation.
 
> If the sword didn't go up in power with Gildedguy then it would have broken when he used it.

The sword has demonstrated nothing that would suggest it has any special properties by itself and it in fact had to be lit on normal campfire in order to be able to melt Bog's acid. Occam's Razor states that Gildedguy simply infuses his own energy into his sword instead of it having an ability that is never shown or suggested in any way.
 
Ah, makes sense, thanks for correcting me, Kep.

EMIYA still gains Gildedguy's power/AP through tracing regardless for different reasons, but yeah, fair point.
 
Le gasp, Weekly and cal are socks ovo

On topic, I just realised that Altcher needs to look at GGs weapon to learn of his abilities which mean he just leads with ULW and one shots.
 
Potential issue:

Doesn't tracing allow the user to replicate the skills/techniques of the original owner too? If so Gildedguy and EMIYA would be equal in skill the moment he traces Gildedguy's weapon.
 
@Dargoo Yes but the problem is emiya will be stuck at one power level whereas gg will just constantly be increasing in power no matter how many times emiya traces him as his sword isn't what is getting stronger
 
EMIYA can trace multiple times, though. He isn't restricted to tracing one time per weapon.

When he traces a weapon he gains the strength of the weilder so it doesn't need to be the sword that gets stronger.

That put EMIYA's durability shouldn't be going up from what I know of Fate, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Yes but Emiya would need to be making a new copy of the weapon every second in order to keep up with GG's constant power climb
 
Not every second, but yeah, GG would consistently have an advantage even if EMIYA traced the weapon repeatedly.

Again I need to know if EMIYA gains the skills associated with the users of the weapon he copies.
 
Imma say this again. He doesn't need to constantly replicate GG's weapon because he has ones that bypass durability. He just needs to pin him with black keys and use spiral swords.
 
How quickly does Archer do that in character?

And do said weapons bypass armor?

Being pinned in one spot doesn't cripple Gildedguy crazy hard given his sword's extension.
 
What are those though? I don't think I saw them on his profile so I don't know what they do.

Also, small thing for Gilded's durability. He was able to take many blows from the virus, who was strong enough to one shot Arzo.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Except Black Keys can be dodged
They can, but not when you dont know how they work. Just cuz you dodge the key, doesnt mean it misses your shadow. In h2h combat he just needs to drop a key while a light source is behind GG and boom
 
Dargoo Faust said:
Wait.
Why are we discussing Black Keys? Those aren't even on his profile.
They are one of the most basic kinds of supernatural weapons and swords in the nasuverse. He can replicate them with ULW. He doesn't have every single NP and weapon he can use on his profile
 
Even if that's the case, if he hasn't used them in combat before we shouldn't be talking about it like it's his go-to.
 
Dargoo Faust said:
How quickly does Archer do that in character?
And do said weapons bypass armor?

Being pinned in one spot doesn't cripple Gildedguy crazy hard given his sword's extension.
Archer is conceptually bloodlusted by default. His character is to do the most efficient thing to win and accomplish his mission

Yes, they do. They target the shadow and soul as apposed to the user

But it does make him an easy target for the AoE of the spiral swords
 
Dargoo Faust said:
Even if that's the case, if he hasn't used them in combat before we shouldn't be talking about it like it's his go-to.
They aren't effective against servants other than Amakusa. That's why he doesnt use them

Questioning if someone who can spawn swords like emiya does in the nasuverse can spawn black keys is tantamount to asking if someone who can spawn guns can spawn a revolver
 
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