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This blog estimates SS Cell Games Gohan at 526.5 Foe, downscaling him from SP Cell's 1.053 KiloFoe.
Nothing wrong there, however, I noticed the scaling with Buu Sage Gohan is slightly wrong.
The blogs downscales SS Buu Gohan from his SS2 being stronger than SS Buu Goku, overall rating SS Buu...
The Super Saiyan vs the Binary form that kind of looks like a Super Saiyan, this should be fun
Standard Battle Assumptions
Speed equalized
Low 4-C Versions
Goku scales to 40.75 Quettatons
Carol scales to 71.3 Quettatons
SSJ Goku (Android Saga) vs Captain Marvel (MCU)
Who wins and why?
This is a continuation of this thread: https://vsbattles.com/threads/cell-is-getting-nerfed-dragon-ball.157345/
As agreed in that thread, the Solar Kamehameha performed by Cell would not scale to his ordinary statistics due to being a charged Kamehameha - and we have seen numerous times...
Sometime after cell, Gohan instead decides to continue his training instead of becoming a scholar, and with advice given to him by piccolo and Mr popo, they suggest to him to enter a variant of the training room where the Human Z fighters trained, where past and present from the HBTC pendulum...
Pretty simple. Universe 7 Macrocosm was accepted to be inifinte in size in this thread (for all canons) with the help of this blog
Why does that matters to Buu? This is because Majin Buu was repeatedly stated to be a threat to the entire universe. It's important because a finite speed character...
I'm talking just about the SS2 and SS3 multipliers since we do accept SSJ as a x50 boost in AP and speed.
The main argument against the use of these multipliers (x2 and x4 for SS2 and SS3, respectively) is because they're portrayed as huge boosts in the series (Gohan being weaker than Cell as a...
Buu Saga Goku and Vegeta are both High 4-C in their base forms by virtue of scaling above the Supreme Kai. Buu Saga Gohan should be given the same treatment; consequently, Cell Games Gohan and likely Goku would be upgraded, too.
Based on his own feats and statements...
Even knowing the might...
Both at 4-B and Speed Unequalized.
SS2 Gohan:
SS2 Vegeta: 7 (@FluffyCreatureZ, @TauanVictor, @Peppersalt43, @SlendVeny, @Coolboy6, @Soulgizmo and @Kflare63)
Beerus comes and claps them both: 2 (@Kin201 and @Vizer04)
Dragon Ball (Anime) characters should be Class P or higher with this feat.
Dragon Ball (Manga) characters should be Class M or higher with this feat.
Piccolo's Class G feat shouldn't be used since it was done via Telekinesis.
Vegeta said that Gohan and Krillin's power levels were constantly increasing to the point that he believed they could win if the three fought together
This is true since we can see that at first, they had power levels of over 10,000
However, their PLs increased so much that they could fight...
Hello.
Let's fix the scaling and the profiles, I will mainly be focusing on the android and Boo saga sections of Dragon Ball Z, I will build off of this blog. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DarkDragonMedeus/Dragon_Ball_Z_Canon_Stat_Explanations
Let us begin.
Planet Vegeta
First up...
Gohan not being a Super Saiyan 2 against Dabura and other stuff, including his power stagnation, have been accepted here.
With that out of the way, my proposals are:
Gohan's justifications should be changed to reflect the fact that he was a Super Saiyan throughout the saga
Gohan's Super Saiyan...
Both at High 4-C and Speed Equalized. Battle takes place at the Cell Games Arena.
Shin:
Gohan: 9 (@FluffyCreatureZ, @TauanVictor, @Cul0r, @Popted2, @Armerish, @Mariogoods, @Ganasto, @BlastX and @Kidkinsey)
Inconclusive:
This shouldn't be a too big of a CRT
The calc of First Form Frieza destroying Planet Vegeta got updated and accepted by several calc group members
In short, First Form Frieza will get upgraded from 1.7 Tenatons to 4.89 Tenatons, or High 5-A+
This is how the scalings will look like following...
While I was looking through Goku's page, I noticed that all of Goku's keys have multiple different tiers in them
For example, looking at his Cell Saga key:
Tier: At least High 5-A, 4-C. 4-C, at least High 4-C
However this key contains both the keys for his Android Saga key, before he got to...
Goku makes Gohan fight Superman... again.
Both at 4-B and Speed Equalized.
Piccolo's Son:
The Last Son of Krypton: 3 (@Mariogoods @sanicspood @Abu2411)
Inconclusive:
If you have seen Toriko, chances are that you know of the OP x DBZ x Toriko crossover. While Goku was obviously nerfed for plot reasons, I wonder what would happen if peak Toriko faced DBZ Goku.
Standard Battle Assumptions
Speed equalized
High 4-C Versions.
Full Power SSJ Goku (Cell Saga) vs...
I was wondering why Dabura wasn't scaled to Super Perfect Cell instead of Perfect Cell. While Goku refers to him as just Cell as a blanket statement. The reason I bring this up is that it doesn't seem possible for Dabura to be just PC level based on the following combinations:
If Gohan was SS...
Conditions:
Buu Saga Gohan (High 4-C Version) and End of Series Shido.
Both combatants are in-character.
Speed is equalized.
Voting:
Son Gohan (Dragon Ball Z):
Itsuka Shido (Date A Live):
Inconclusive:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Gohan_(Dragon_Ball_Z)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_(Superman_vs_The_Elite)
Super Saiyan 2 enraged buu saga gohan is used
speed is equal
gohan:
superman: 7
incon:
Boruto has been overtaken by Momoshiki once is and is wreaking havoc on the earth. Gohan steps up to take him down.
Standard Battle Assumptions
Speed equalized.
5-C Versions.
Borushiki vs Saiyan Saga Gohan
Who wins and why?
Mr. Satan's page relies on mostly anime material, and that is a no no, as the mainstream Dragon Ball pages are based on the manga. After coming up with some more justifications for Wall level, I kinda got lost in the flow and ended up recreating the pages for Mr. Satan, Videl, and Spopovich...
So a while now, i've seen several profiles and DB fans saying that Cell, SSJ2 Gohan and Buu saga are 4-A
The reason is that according to a Dainzeenshu, the solar system is a nebula, which contains "Innumerable" stars:
Is this statement really legit or not?
Since there's a Goku vs Supes thread going, I think this can also be a fair match.
Mystic Gohan (Buu arc) is used. While Wonder Woman is at her Post Crisis incarnation, Speed is equalized.
Gohan:
Wonder Woman: 12 (LSirLancelotDuLacl, Litentric Teon, Lord JJJ, Milly Rocking Bandit...
Golden Frieza (ROF Saga) vs Ultimate Goha (TOP Saga)
Both are at 3-A
Battle takes place in the Frieza vs Goku area. First encounter
Both in character and serious. Rest are SBA
Who wins?
Evil Tyrant:
Son of Prodigy:
Both are powerful children who rose up to destroy a giant monster when their parental figures couldn't. So like...here.
Resolute Keldeo. SSJ2 Gohan
Speed equalized.
Don't worry. DB vs Pokémon only gets toxic at tier 2.
Keldeo
Son Goha
YOSHA! Cell in the Cell Saga was scaled to solar system level due to him saying he could destroy the solar system. But in Dragon Ball Canon, the solar system is actually multi-solar system level to galaxy level in scale. SSJ2 Teen Gohan, Super Perfect Cell Other Pages that should be revised...
The Low-Tiers of the Universal Survival Saga such as Ten Shin Han and Muten Roshi are rated as High 4-C because they can destroy Katchi Katchin while Base Gohan from the Majin Boo Saga was unable to destroy normal Katchin. However, Base Gohan is only 4-C on that key. Quoting his profile...