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TheRustyOne

TheRustyOne

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  • Don't DM me for calc evaluations, you can just leave a message here if the Evaluation Thread isn't working for you.
    Therefir
    The speed obtained in this calc doesn't get affected if we used more frames right? Just asking.
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    Therefir
    Therefir
    The rotation value you got looks pretty accurate but logically the rotation speed of the outer part would only apply to the outer part of the storm.
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    I got the speed of the inner part of the storm and Rusty have the speed of the outer part, but how that would help us get the energy of the spin? Should I just use the average between those two speeds or what?
    Hk1488
    Considering the dispersion:
    I just meant that the end result of the explosion contradicts the dispersion radius being that high. We only see the cloud partially blown that distance and that over the course of the entire explosion rather than 15 frames because we don't know exactly just how long it took since the explosion covers most of the feat.

    If I knew how I would try to blog these feats myself. Kinda hard to get my point across as a non native English speaker.
    Therefir
    Therefir
    If you think the explosion covered the storm that's fine but I'm gonna keep assuming the explosion pushed the storm away and that they didn't overlap.
    Popted2
    Hey Rusty were you good at doing calcs?
    Rikimarox2
    Ello! You seem pretty knowledgeable on RWBY, so I got a simple question.

    I've heard from a supporter that apparently people with Aura can tank 8-A to Low 7-B attacks despite them being High 8-C, but it isn't mentioned anywhere on the profile. So, might I ask, is this true? And if it is, I assume the pages are just outdated?
    RandomGuy2345
    Yo Rusty I have a question.
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    RandomGuy2345
    RandomGuy2345
    You know how Pre-Final Act Deku has Supernatural Willpower?

    Can you show me some specified feats just justify this if possible?
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    If you take a look at his profile you could find it yourself, that is the point of references so people can check themselves.

    Izuku is capable of breaking his fingers repeatedly during his fight with Todoroki in Chapter 38 and 39. Even using his already broken fingers for more attacks until they physically cannot move anymore due to the damage he is taking. Even then he still found a way to use them by flicking his fingers from his mouth.

    Supernatural Willpower: "Characters with this ability may be able to resist enormous amounts of pain"
    RandomGuy2345
    RandomGuy2345
    Ahh, okay.

    I asked you this because I made a CRT about characters from a verse potentially having Supernatural Willpower, and it ended up getting rejected.

    I wanted to see the standards for Supernatural Willpower.
    I'm wrapping things up in regards to my sandbox which I'm guessing you avoided to avoid spoilers which is fine. But to the meat of the issue. You said you think the nier pages have gotten worse. I can use feedback on what you think needs changing.
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Sorry but I can't really spare the time to the series yet. If I'm going to be discussing the Nier verse as a whole, which is what I want to do, it'll be after I finish the series.

    And that won't happen for awhile.
    Therefir
    Hey, could you make a sandbox of what you want to make with Shoto's profile please?
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    I'll be getting to it eventually, so you don't need to worry about it.

    Still getting everything ready for other characters and the like.

    I'll likely get more done in the next few days, as I usually stay off this forum when the chapter leaks come out and don't usually check back until Friday.
    Therefir
    Is Endeavor 638 Megatons of is he downscaling to baseline 7-A+ (550 Megatons)
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    TheRustyOne
    Right now? In the thread we agreed on downscaling for him, 45%, Crust AP, and Nejire so they're 550 MT. I cannot remember if anyone else is.

    However in the future revisions I believe they shouldn't be downscaling. At least not Endeavor and 45%. Since Endeavor's damage to the High-Ends with his propelled strikes has no reason to be downscaling from them. He is weaker, but honesty that difference between them is rather small. And 45% is at least comparable to Endeavor.

    Shigaraki would be scaling an unknown amount higher (Unless something happens). As he's superior to the High-Ends, but is still on comparable terms with them.
    Quick question. I won't go into details. But how do you know if something is vaporized. Or pulverized.
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Vaporized without any clear visuals would need a statement, unless it was a liquid being destroyed since that cannot be pulverized.

    Usually vaporization comes from an attack with high heat, if you can confirm the attack in question has vaporized before or has statements of vaporization. Those can be good enough depending on the circumstances. However without any direct confirmation, telling the difference between dust and vapor can be difficult.

    Really just depends on the feat in question, everything varies.
    Two quick questions.

    Let's say you have a character with really skinny limbs but he can punch multi ton characters and send them flying. Then another character blocks their punches. Can I calculate the strength of the block from the energy that they usually hit with? Or am I stuck with kinetic energy from their scrawny limbs?



    Also, where would I get permission to make tiny changes. Namely this for the Automata pages



    Damage Reflection (Each damage taken has a 50% chance of being dealt back to the enemy with power doubled),

    To

    Damage Reflection (Each damage taken has a 50% chance of being dealt back to the enemy with power doubled, counter chip grants technique to reflect up to 250% damage back at the enemy on block).
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    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Don't know if you're still following this.

    But I've just recently played through all of Nier Replicant and acquired all of the endings. I assume you're talking about Emil's attack that wiped of the Aerie, and I don't see that scaling to anyone. The blast destroyed the giant shade that they were struggling to defeat and the party had to avoid it.
    TheAngryOrange
    I can see that. Though it might be moot.

    So originally I scaled the replicant characters separately from the Automata characters. The exception were Automata's Popola and Devola who scaled from their Replicant counterparts who scaled to Nier&Co. But the others disagreed with me and felt that Nier&Co should scale to Replicant's Popola & Devola who back scale from Automata's Popola & Devola who scales to 9S.
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    I'm uncertain of the scaling between games, due to the large time difference. While I highly doubt Devola and Popola got any enhancements after how the Androids treated them for failing. I also don't really know if they should scale to 9S/A2 to my knowledge. They only fought common fodder enemies if I recall.

    But I feel like the twins in Replicant would actually be superior to twins Automata, at least they seemed far stronger and had more abilities.

    I'm uncertain of this.
    Gohan?_You're_still_alive?
    Hey Rusty, you know how to do calcs right? I could use some assistance calc'ing some Dynasty Warriors physical feats.
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    Gohan?_You're_still_alive?
    Gohan?_You're_still_alive?
    Oooh, I see! How were you able to rip the archer tower from DW9 into Blender? I mean, I am able to download the models online, but I'd like to know how you did the archer tower-

    Also thank you for the calc.

    I am also going to ask for a siege tower destruction calc too! I will make a video of the destruction in-game and then you should be able to look for the model of the siege tower in the directory, it looks like it'd be peak 9-A, or baseline 8-C, idk-
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Downloaded the game and used Ninja Ripper, that's why I asked which Dynasty Warriors game it was. I was going to get it myself and extract the models.

    Finding that type of tower took way too long, since I don't know anything about these games and they have multiple types of towers. But the one in your video seems to be the biggest of them so I had to find it. Also the game crashes after I extract models, surprised they come out in an A pose and with textures.

    No problem.
    Gohan?_You're_still_alive?
    Gohan?_You're_still_alive?
    My plan for the revisions are...

    Why have keys for the previous games when the most modern game is pretty much what they're going to want to stick to for feats? There will be no keys, since his DW9 calcs are final. Of course, each game is a retelling of RTK.

    That and the abilities are lacking, as well as messed up, True Musou is from Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce iirc, which is a non canon spin-off, and should be removed, I plan to make a tabber for all weapon abilities and additional abilities from weapon augments.

    Now I'm only wondering what'll happen when you calc the siege tower, how do you find it? Get into any castle duel, take some time outside, and there should be siege towers coming in from the sides for you to climb up, of course I'll be making a video of how many hits it would take to destroy it, but still.
    Using a triangle (closest thing I can’t get to a pyramid) for diagonal distance is a good idea right?
    Like using an object thats not moving to get the distance (because artists tend to draw objects Or people moving with extra length for motion lines, atleast Horikoshi does)
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Am thinking of doing some HxH vs Senran Kagura match-ups, but not sure which keys to use
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    I'm not very knowledge about HxH, actually I know nothing about the series whatsoever.

    Is Nen Crush no longer a thing that is instant victory?
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    What do you say to this:

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    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Not certain what this is about... However I can confidently say any one of those people would rip me to shreds.

    I'd just avoid all of them. Hibari can't be exist in reality, those eyes haunt me to this day.
    Popted2
    Hey Rusty the Vigilante MHA is ending the next chapter, did you said that you have something like a revision for some characters or i was mistaken?
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    Popted2
    Popted2
    first thanks Rusty, second for Koichi how does it sound this keys splitting?

    Pre-Timeskip l Post-Timeskip l Awakened
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    I don't think we should considered what Koichi does as an Awakening (Wait was it actually called that?). Though I admit I'm not certain on how to label his keys. In the worst case I'll just name them after the arc they take place in. Though finding any kind of scaling for Koichi is going to be tough.
    Popted2
    Popted2
    well during the fight with number six he developed new tecniques etc, maybe post Number six fight?
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    How far into watching Samurai Jack are you currently?
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Nothing. I may have seen some episodes years ago and I think I saw some episodes of Season 5 but I've never actually sit down and watched Samurai Jack.
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Well, I'm not sure if any of the knowledgable members of Samurai Jack are going to be of any help for Jack vs Rin (Dark Caroica said he doesn't do match-ups), so if you might be able to find some time to do that, your input would be very much welcomed (of course you don't need to be obligated to do it)
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    I'm like 90% certain Samurai Jack's is wrong and is going to be downgraded... at a snails pace. But I saw that durability rating came from a temperature feat and instantly went to see if anyone is talking about it. And there is a CRT going on that addressed it. But it seems like no one cares about Samurai Jack all that much.

    I can't really do anything besides a bump, since I don't know the series.
    Gohan?_You're_still_alive?
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Sorry, I have zero knowledge of any of these characters. And I'm not really okay with just FRAing a thread just because other people are. I usually want to have knowledge on one of the characters before voting. But honestly I don't really know Undertale or Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou.

    A little of Undertale, but not enough to be confident in voting against or for Sans.
    Gohan?_You're_still_alive?
    Oops!! There was a corruption resistance oversight for the Senran shinobi, I also forgot to mention that there were still a few more abilities I found to go over on the Senran Upgrade Thread, my bad, sadly, they're all the way back on Page 2-
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    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    I really dislike such comedic moments to not be taken seriously. I think such an ability should only be mentioned when it's that, an actual ability they posses. Like Deadpool's things or something. Those this happen more than once, or is this the only occasion?
    Gohan?_You're_still_alive?
    Gohan?_You're_still_alive?
    There was a moment or so where Haruka broke the fourth wall, although Peach Ball is a non-canon spin-off iirc

    Alsoooo, it's like how Goku has limited fourth wall awareness--
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Goku has done it multiple times to my knowledge, Asuka having a single time (For advertisement) doesn't seem right for me.
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Sorry if I seemed stand-off-ish, I just worry about the validity of my calcs after all is something comes up and I assumed that you would know what I was talking about (everyone here knows compressive strength = pulverazation after all)

    Although I mainly wanted to share some criticisms I had with the first Senran Kagura anime (the dub at least) to see if you agree with me or not:
    • It's rushed - We are not given any time to connect with the characters and we don't get the know them, we are just immediately introduced to them and then we get to them fighting the Hebijo students. Although we are given their backgrounds which for the most part are respectful to the original game (except Hikage) but at the same time they just feel forced, as if the anime is desperate to get you to care about them. In comparison Burst goes the long way in deconstructing the line between good and evil to show that perhaps there really isn't that much different through multiple character interactions and perspectives and showing how their personalities clash while the anime just has the Hanzou and Hebijo girls just be like this 'we are friends and we get along well with each other' mentality which on the surface seems to good but it's not realistic, their clashing personalities would actually get them into a lot of conflict with each other just like real friendships can do, and that actually happened in the game believe it or not; in NInja Flash though you get zilch of that!!
    • Characters shouldn't be able to read kanji - looking at the backgrounds of all the characters I would say the only characters who would be totally fluent with kanji would be Ikaruga, Haruka, Yagyu, and Homura; the rest's skill would be either shaky or non-existent, especially with the spidery written kanji on the Secret Ninja Scroll
    • Voices are hit or miss - Sure, some of the VAs are able to portray the characters to which they respect the original material like Ikaruga, Katsuragi, Yomi, Haruka, and to my surprise Homura; however there are some VA's that I would change out like for Hibari and Hikage, honestly it would be better if Cherumi Leigh were voicing Hibari (and using third person like in the original) and either Christina Stroup or Molly Searcy were voicing Hikage since they have voiced characters that have similar personalities. And maybe to spice things up, perhaps Teri Rogers should voice Haruka with a French accent
    • Not enough swearing - Not to say that I promote it but it's hard to deny that some of these characters should be total pottymouths and dropping swears like no tomorrow. I was able to count only 34 swears and most of them have either mild to medium harshness in my opinion. I'm just saying this because Funimation has produced more crasser dubs than this, Yu Yu Hakusho and Black Lagoon have swears littered throughout, and in Panty & Stocking there are over 375 clips of characters just using the f word alone. The VAs are definitely not against swearing after all, Monica Rial (Homura's VA) was Stocking after all, and Brittney Karbowsky has been shown to have a potty mouth in outtake reels
    • Is tone deaf when it comes to fights and violence - I really to wonder if the people making it ever watched an episode of Dragon Ball in their lives. Now to be fair the original game didn't show any gore when fighting which can be mostly forgiven because video game has its programmed limitations on what it can be shown and even made up for that by other means, in an anime however there are no limitation and you can go all out!! Like show bruises, cuts, broken bones, sudden amputation, evisceration, decapitation, anything to sate my intense battle loving self. I mean the beginning explicitly said that shinobi did assassinations, so what's wrong with killing a couple of red shirts in brutal ways? And another thing that I moan about the battles is that girls underwear for their combat outfits are all wrong!! 3DS Burst has explicitly specific underwear for their combat outfits that for the most part feel consistent with what they are wearing but in the anime they simply ignore all that and go with the default swimsuits of the games with only being concerned about showing boobage. I think the scene where Yagyuu enters the shinobi kekkai with Hibari and Haruka, we are told that it's risky for outsiders to enter a shinobi barrier and what happens with Yagyuu? She gets hospitalized for some vague and unexplained tiredness, you know they could be more explicit with the reasons not to enter a shinobi kekkai, like maybe Yagyuu get some severe burns, loses a limb, or something, just any more relatable injury than just whatever we got here. Honestly, Guren no Hebi is more in line with the Senran Kagura I want to see with an adaptation
    • Good ideas, poor execution - I definitely will admit that while the Linked Shinobi Barrier is a good idea on paper, I just don't think it was executed well enough. I mean considering its weakness is that it can destabilize when one of the shinobi who created that barrier gets defeated, it's rather dumb have those shinobi fight in the first place. that's not to mention that you need those shinobi to be in the right mindset. You know what would be a better idea? Have multiple puppets controlled by Haruka be the ones to create the barrier, it would solve both problems because she can share her mind between the puppets and if a puppet gets destroyed she can easily make another take its place. Also, instead of having the barrier be one on one fights, why not have a series of barriers the characters need to go through with enemies of increasing strength in order to get to Haruka like with how Castlevania is set up. Another thing in poor execution is Asuka's 'inner strength', we really don't see it but instead told about it, like we never get any hint about it so the final fight scene comes off as Deus ex Machina when they defeat Dogen. If we compare Asuka to Ichigo for a moment, we can definitely see that he has an inner strength with White Zangetsu, within the Soul Society arc there is a lot of littered foreshadowing on his hollow side, so when it appears when Ichigo defeats Kenpachi, it's feels much more satisfying to see
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    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Interesting thoughts, however I have not actually seen the Senran Kagura anime. My experience with the series remains mostly in the console and handheld games. I did see a few episodes of Shinovi Masters, but I have no memory of it beyond the opening scene and intro. That CRT was the first time I'd taken a look at the manga.

    I've seen like a handful of clips or gifs from the first anime. However a Senran Kagura English dub sounds horrible to me. I'm not a "original language is always superior" type of guy. But I've seen so much of Senran Kagura in Japanese the thought of listing to it in English just rubs me the wrong way.
    TheRustyOne
    TheRustyOne
    Apologies for bothering. But how exactly skilled is Homura in battle? I'm god awful at explaining things and I could use some help.
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    A little hard to say, ihmo, she's kinda like Kenpachi (and by proxy Daidouji) in a way with how she attacks

    Also, we may or may not get 6-C Senran Kagura in the future, just depends if my new calc for Kagura gets accepted or not
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