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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Denji has a Relativistic - FTL feat he directly performed and scales to

Yuji can be argued to scale to Dabura at least in reaction speed, or scale to Sukuna's relativistic reactions by reacting to Kashimo's EM.

Yuji has a 6-C feat he directly performed and scales to (And even then, can be agreed to scale to Dabura's/Animekuna's 6-C AP).

Denji can be argued to scale primals physically, who are stated to be >>> Yoru's Gun Goddess, wich can be highballed to 6-C KE.

Stat wise it's pretty easy to make them even, if not very close.

Ability wise Yuji borderline stomps Denji.

Shrine>>>Chainsaws. It's like comparing a dude who has 2 swords to a dude who can psychically control dozens of giant invisible swords (with soul damage) without needing to move.

Blood manip likely can't fully counter Denji's regen as Pochita can regen from getting it's body exploded by cancerous tumors/come back from cellular transmutation by drinking blood, but it at least lowers the benefits Denji can get from blood.

Fuga is not very effective, CSM is highly heat resistant.

RCT can't make Yuji fully immortal, but he can use it without restriction, unlike Denjita who gets like 1 or 2 full body heals without blood.

Domain expansion counters any speed/mobility advantage Denjita could have.

Black flashes are a neat little bonus.

Denji's big hope is DB deciding to embrace JJK spirit and not read his manga only to give him 6-B via scaling to Yoru's USA state swords
 
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Epiccheev said:
Denji has a Relativistic - FTL feat he directly performed and scales to

Yuji can be argued to scale to Dabura at least in reaction speed, or scale to Sukuna's relativistic reactions by reacting to Kashimo's EM.

Yuji has a 6-C feat he directly performed and scales to (And even then, can be agreed to scale to Dabura's/Animekuna's 6-C AP).

Denji can be argued to scale primals physically, who are stated to be >>> Yoru's Gun Goddess, wich can be highballed to 6-C KE.

Stat wise it's pretty easy to make them even, if not very close.

Ability wise Yuji borderline stomps Denji.

Shrine>>>Chainsaws. It's like comparing a dude who has 2 swords to a dude who can psychically control dozens of giant invisible swords (with soul damage) without needing to move.

Blood manip likely can't fully counter Denji's regen as Pochita can regen from getting it's body exploded by cancerous tumors/come back from cellular transmutation by drinking blood, but it at least lowers the benefits Denji can get from blood.

Fuga is not very effective, CSM is highly heat resistant.

RCT can't make Yuji fully immortal, but he can use it without restriction, unlike Denjita who gets like 1 or 2 full body heals without blood.

Domain expansion counters any speed advantage Denjita could have.

Denji's big hope is DB deciding to embrace JJK spirit and not read his manga only to give him 6-B via scaling to Yoru's USA state swords
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^^^^^^^
 
Peter_Quicksilver_Maximoff said:
Dismantle and Cleave aren’t just fast “projectiles” you sidestep, they’re invisible cursed-energy slashes that strike without a visible tell and can hit from multiple directions at once, with characters in the manga consistently reacting to the damage after it lands, not the attack itself; on top of that, Cleave adjusts to the target’s toughness, so brute durability or regeneration doesn’t reliably save you, it just means you get cut appropriately.
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I'm well aware. Hence why I stated "sense" instead of "see". The omnidirectional Dismantles will be a problem without a doubt, but Denji has been through reasonably similar. So I'll take the baton and sprint knowing that he'll be able to power through something like that.

And furthermore, Cleave requires touch in order to adapt to said durability, something Yuji is likely going to have an incredibly rough time doing to Denji. Heck, Denji would take the opportunity and kamikaze himself in order to reel him in and saw him up close and at that point taking blood from Yuji erases him from existence, slowly from the body or instantly with a clean bite to the head, again, very likely up close.
Peter_Quicksilver_Maximoff said:
Denji has some good to great abilities, but he lacks cursed-energy perception and any mechanic for sensing or predicting invisible attacks, which is what JJK fighters rely on to even survive these techniques. And the “pseudo-infinity is meh” claim is off, because the barrier isn’t something you just power through, these slashes apply at the target rather than behaving like normal travel-based strikes, so having a speed edge doesn’t solve the core problem. Put simply: Denji isn’t consistently dodging what he can’t perceive, and he doesn’t have a built-in answer to an attack that scales to cut him anyway.
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You can very much argue otherwise tbh. All hybrids and even devils have enhanced senses. And we have characters who are similar to Denji such as Fakesaw, parrying invisible projectiles all the same and so was Denji in the form of a dodge. He will be able to sense them from that alone. C.E. perception is only useful for a sorcerer to predict attacks and Denji already has other means of doing so.

And regarding the slashes, speed was not my only argument. It was also that Denji can power through them via his superior piercing damage from his chainsaws and raw physical strength. Speed is just a bonus. Not to mention he is going to leave himself open if he focuses on Denji's chainsaws and instead of overpowering him, Denji just uses his leg saw and splits him in half. And again, not only is Cleave generally a bad idea, but regeneration solves that issue pretty well.
 
Bigdongus said:
spear and fang (primal) vs San and Moro (Princess Mononoke)

I don’t think the team has it in them in any capacity.
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Interessing matchup.

Depends on the style of animation, this one failed because It was in 3D. I think If they done yours in other style, It should be fine.
 
Tots_Real said:
Also I gotta be honest it is really funny that Gru vs Megamind was a matchup people were actually excited for but eneded up like that. Lol.
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NO ITS NOT ITS AN EPISODE I WAS EXCITED FOR AND IT WAS BAAAAAAAAAD

is this karma?
 
The only really interesting thing about this match is the chance that this could end in a "no one wins scenario" if Denji uses his domain. Everything else is just kinda boring.
 
GunshyFever said:
I'm well aware. Hence why I stated "sense" instead of "see". The omnidirectional Dismantles will be a problem without a doubt, but Denji has been through reasonably similar. So I'll take the baton and sprint knowing that he'll be able to power through something like that.

And furthermore, Cleave requires touch in order to adapt to said durability, something Yuji is likely going to have an incredibly rough time doing to Denji. Heck, Denji would take the opportunity and kamikaze himself in order to reel him in and saw him up close and at that point taking blood from Yuji erases him from existence, slowly from the body or instantly with a clean bite to the head, again, very likely up close.

You can very much argue otherwise tbh. All hybrids and even devils have enhanced senses. And we have characters who are similar to Denji such as Fakesaw, parrying invisible projectiles all the same and so was Denji in the form of a dodge. He will be able to sense them from that alone. C.E. perception is only useful for a sorcerer to predict attacks and Denji already has other means of doing so.

And regarding the slashes, speed was not my only argument. It was also that Denji can power through them via his superior piercing damage from his chainsaws and raw physical strength. Speed is just a bonus. Not to mention he is going to leave himself open if he focuses on Denji's chainsaws and instead of overpowering him, Denji just uses his leg saw and splits him in half. And again, not only is Cleave generally a bad idea, but regeneration solves that issue pretty well.
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I get what you’re going for, but when you line it up with how the techniques actually function in canon, a few of those points don’t really stick.
First, “sensing instead of seeing” still isn’t enough here. In JJK, reacting to these slashes isn’t just about having sharp instincts, it’s tied to cursed energy perception and interpretation. Characters who survive this kind of offense aren’t just “feeling danger,” they’re reading CE flow, output, and intent in real time. Denji (and hybrids/devils in general) have heightened senses, yeah, but nothing in CSM shows him consistently detecting and reacting to attacks with no physical or sensory tell at that speed and from multiple directions simultaneously. The Fakesaw comparison doesn’t quite bridge that gap either, because those interactions still operate within CSM’s physical/combat logic, not invisible, CE-based, multi-angle spatial cuts hitting essentially on application.
Second, the idea that Denji can just “power through” omnidirectional Dismantles runs into a scaling issue. Those panels you linked (and the ones you showed earlier) demonstrate that the attack isn’t a few lines you tank, it’s wide-area, layered, repeated cutting that shreds everything in the zone almost instantly. Denji’s regen is strong, but it’s blood-dependent and not instantaneous under continuous damage. If he’s being cut from multiple vectors at once, repeatedly, he doesn’t get the breathing room to stabilize, drink blood, or counterattack cleanly. CSM consistently shows that when Denji is overwhelmed faster than he can recover, he does get incapacitated or torn apart before bouncing back.
Third, about Cleave needing contact—that part is true in isolation, but the conclusion from it isn’t. You’re treating it like: “no touch = no threat,” when in practice it’s: Dismantle handles ranged pressure and zone control and Cleave finishes once contact is established

Yuji not having an easy time landing a grab doesn’t negate the threat, because Denji has to close distance into an active kill zone to even attempt his chainsaw play. That’s the risky part, you’re assuming he can brute-force his way through that space without being disabled first.
Fourth, the “kamikaze and erase with blood” argument leans on a mechanic mismatch. Denji’s erasure ability (via consuming devils) is not a generic “any opponent = erase” effect. It’s specifically tied to devils and concepts in CSM’s system. There’s no canon support that biting a non-devil, non-CSM-verse entity like Yuji would trigger that same existence erasure. So that win condition is basically non-transferable across systems.
Finally, the close-range exchange idea—“Denji just out-trades with chainsaws”—ignores that JJK fighters at that level are operating with reinforcement, reaction, and striking speed that scale to their technique use, not just raw physicality. Denji is dangerous up close, no doubt, but he’s not uniquely advantaged there against someone who can fight while layering invisible offense simultaneously.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Apparently, the episode was kinda underwhelming, because they had to make everything by hand.
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That still doesn't explain the lame research in the episode though. 'Gru surviving 4 nukes' being the most egregious example. Not to mention not a single peep about the brainbot's cages, MM's cloning or the stone of transference.
 
Also, now people are discussing if Denji and Pochita can be separated.
Short Answer: No.
Long Answer: Man watch the arc of Makima and Aging
 
AthelChan said:
its time they hire us VSBW users for research, i'd assume everyone will do it for free here.
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they already be taking links from the wiki in some of the g1-blogs & can still fumble bag
Stefano4444 said:
More like despicable work.
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SpecterSkater said:
That still doesn't explain the lame research in the episode though. 'Gru surviving 4 nukes' being the most egregious example. Not to mention not a single peep about the brainbot's cages, MM's cloning or the stone of transference.
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If we're giving Gru 7-C durability then give Megamind his 7-B durability smh
 
Fezzih_007 said:

Already potential memes, people work fast.

True.

I wanna know why they ignore other feats of the characters. There's should be a better speed feat for Gru right?
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I mean I did laugh at the De-Gun jokes... but that's it. smh should've had a minion in space swim to sacrifice his life to stop the Sun laser or a better beam struggle at least
 
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