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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

SomaKing13 said:
Drax, Adam and Groot are Herald level, with Adam having some crazy hax, Gamora is spiderman level with massive skill and a weapon that cuts through virtually anything, and Rocket has Herald killing weaponry (this also doesn't include non-mcu guardians like Quasar or Phylla Vell or Nova who are all heralds also)
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Good, good, felt like I was forgetting something
JoshDoshMosh said:
I mean, you say that as if Adam Warlock isn’t on the Guardians
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You're right, I said that as if I forgot him (I did)
 
SomaKing13 said:
Drax, Adam and Groot are Herald level, with Adam having some crazy hax, Gamora is spiderman level with massive skill and a weapon that cuts through virtually anything, and Rocket has Herald killing weaponry (this also doesn't include non-mcu guardians like Quasar or Phylla Vell or Nova who are all heralds also)
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Personally the line up I have for them should make it fair but one guy is probably gonna be carrying the rest
Starlord, Rocket, Groot, Gamora, Drax, Mantis, Adam, and Phylla
 
I actually don't remember off the top of my head, is this the first Dragon Ball episode where they've used the anime Namek Explosion feat and Other World Tournament speed feat? I'm used to hearing them in dedicated Dragon Ball scaling videos, but I can't recall Death Battle using them before. I could just be forgetting, though.
 
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ShawnFaux said:
I actually don't remember off the top of my head, is this the first Dragon Ball episode where they've used the anime Namek Explosion feat and Other World Tournament speed feat? I'm used to hearing them in dedicated Dragon Ball scaling videos, but I can't recall Death Battle using them before. I could just be forgetting, though.
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the latter was in trunks vs silver
the former is the first time
 
So how ****** is sonic the sonic verse with Metal sonic cells power copied
HC8OLeXXgAACcKL
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Well now he has martial arts skill alone that is a major kneecap to anyone trying to fight him, even scaling off of Emerl, so have fun with that and the super boosted regen + zenkais Metal has now. 😅
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Lowkey, I think the Shin Kikōhō is one of the crazier things Metal got out of that fight. If it was strong enough to make Tien able to hurt Cell, imagine what someone on this level could do with it.
 
ZeNoviceArtist said:
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"most reliable allies"? What? Did I miss the secret Reze return chapter or something?

Last time Denji saw her, she uppercut his dumba** through a skyscraper, she is not his ally lmao. Yeah, she loved him in the end and came back, but he doesn't know that. And even if he did, that still wouldn't have made her his ally; she "died" before that could happen.
 
Just wondering, what was Cell's win-con in that fight, even? The only thing I can think of off hand is that, by the logic presented in their pre and post analysis, Cell was stronger than base Metal and faster in general, so maybe he could have speed blitzed and one shot at the start? That's all I got 🤷‍♂️

Bro was just doomed from the start, it seems lol
 
Bowser fans bragging about him beating a clone like he didnt have help from mario and Luigi.

Also I never understood why kamel canceling metals copying was a problem. He’d have to notice metal was there in the whole battlefield, then actually get close enough to win. This is also assuming he figured out what the abilit was (he might no even hear metal over the commotion). And also assuming he dosent jusr Buff allies like usual.

Bowsers jr paintbrush is tech I don’t know how this was a factor sage diff.
 
Death battle gave bowser a fully charged dream stone but didn’t give eggman the phantom ruby.

Bowser didn’t even erase anyone with his dreamy bowser form. He just spawned some minions or smth. And wouldnt the time eater resist ee by existing in a void where there was the ee or smth before egg man found him
 
Tipper17 said:
So how ****** is sonic the sonic verse with Metal sonic cells power copied
HC8OLeXXgAACcKL
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Like maybe 30% more threating at best. Like no offense to Cell's arsenal but it's not to different to stuff Sonic characters already have and just don't use.
Metal has Shadow's data and he can already shoot ki blasts with stuff like Chaos Spear and Chaos Blast, the only new thing is the baby spawning thing. Like Cell's regen only marginally better than what Metal can already do with his liquid metal form if not worse.
 
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Thunderman101 said:
Bowser fans bragging about him beating a clone like he didnt have help from Mario and Luigi.

Also I never understood why Kamek canceling Metals copying was a problem. He’d have to notice Metal was there in the whole battlefield, then actually get close enough to win. This is also assuming he figured out what the ability was (he might not even hear Metal over the commotion). And also assuming he dosent just buff allies like usual.

Bowsers jr paintbrush is tech I don’t know how this was a factor Sage diff.
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Probably because trying to account for the sheer chaos of a hypothetical like Bowser vs Eggman is borderline impossible unless you streamline and simplify things into dozens of one on one interactions/counters or give one of them a big enough stat advantage the other gets stomped outright. That said though acknowledging the information asymmetry of that fight would have given the INTELLIGENCE category actual value so if DB just wanted a clean Bowser win it makes sense of them to not acknowledge that Eggman and Sage would have a much better capacity to figure out team Bowser’s abilities than vice versa.
Thunderman101 said:
Death battle gave Bowser a fully charged Dream Stone but didn’t give Eggman the Phantom Ruby.
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Nah they gave Eggman the Phantom Ruby but they just handwaved it away by claiming that it isn't "real" reality warping and is therefore inferior to the Wonder Flower by default before moving on. They also dismissed the Egg Field in a black box for requiring prep time in a fight where both sides have things that are non standard for some reason. In other words it's just an episode that made weird choices some of which were unnecessary.
Thunderman101 said:
Bowser didn’t even erase anyone with his Dreamy Bowser form. He just spawned some minions or smth. And wouldn't the Time Eater resist ee by existing in a void where there was the ee or smth before Eggman found him.
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Yeah TE would probably resist existence erasure I don't know why it wouldn't. That point would have been one thing if they claimed Bowser could erase the Egg Salamander and Egg Wizard or something, but choosing to say that specifically about an entity that has on screen universal EE far better than what the Dream Stone has been implied to be capable of and Metal Sonic who resisted said EE even in his base form was...certainly a choice I'll just say that.

TLDR: Bowser vs Eggman just made a bunch of bizarre choices.
 
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Yeah BowserEggman is nightmare because Star Rod + Wonder Flower reality warping is basically comparable to Time manipulation in terms of "can undo everything and basically sweep gg" so they made it tie. So they just concluded base Bowser and his army > Eggman and his army.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Yeah BowserEggman is nightmare because Star Rod + Wonder Flower reality warping is basically comparable to Time manipulation in terms of "can undo everything and basically sweep gg" so they made it tie. So they just concluded base Bowser and his army > Eggman and his army.
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One more thing is I don’t see why transmutation mattered here as the entire loin of the metal virus was people were being turned into metal. At the end of the arc super sonic and silver destroyed the virus when they went super from their bodies


Do you think it’s because they resist transmutation or they just burnt the metal virus off?
 
TMaakkonen said:
Yeah BowserEggman is nightmare because Star Rod + Wonder Flower reality warping is basically comparable to Time manipulation in terms of "can undo everything and basically sweep gg" so they made it tie. So they just concluded base Bowser and his army > Eggman and his army.
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If you don’t want to drag this out it’s as simple as “Bowser canonically uses layered invulnerability magic on turn two in PM64 using the Star Rod which has a statement that it’s capable of using all wishes/powers in the verse” which is important given that, in headcanoning both combatants literally having everything, the only thing that matters given the sheer nuke-potential is how fast someone quickdraws.
 
Osemere said:
If you don’t want to drag this out it’s as simple as “Bowser canonically uses layered invulnerability magic on turn two in PM64 using the Star Rod which has a statement that it’s capable of using all wishes/powers in the verse” which is important given that, in headcanoning both combatants literally having everything, the only thing that matters given the sheer nuke-potential is how fast someone quickdraws.
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They had Bowser faster too.

Hell, updated Time Eater in CellMetal was slower than Mario lol
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
They could've just stated that they were opposites to each other (Bakugou was hostile towards Izuku before warming up and the two being trusted allies while Reze acted as a close love interest until she betrayed Denji) like bro what.
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The Soviet Union and Hero Society comparison is arguably even worse

A society that praises those who are talented sure is similar to the USSR.
 
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