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Isn't the Persona/SMT cosmology >>>>> FF16 cosmology?
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Fezzih_007
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Looking through Yugi’s list of cards and oh my god Mirage Ruler is insane.
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Clock Card
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Is the Toei anime even canon?Clock Card
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Dio's stingy eyes feat wasn't...
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Sorta? It follows the storyof the manga so its likely theyll do a soft composite like theyve done for baiscally every character on the show
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The crew do buy higher end persona stuff going by the blogs by ultra guy after the fight
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Issue with Hit he's irrelevant right now and to justify bringing him on over any big names left currently
Death vs sakuya been tossed around but being real that one ain't generating interest outside the community
FF 16 been out of the limelight for awhile and Dante losing to a Who def didn't help
same with Blade losing to Buffy kinda hindered the view count
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AshYugi is probably better indicator on how views have been affected.
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A battle people actually wanted, imagine that.
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And is actually very debatable (forget the million ways Atem can just delete Ash's soul)
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Guys, I just realised, by DB's standards, Nero ironically would have been a better opponent for Clive, because he is the Potential Man of DMC. He too grew in power extremely fast in the narrative in a similar manner to Simon or Clive(according to DB) himself.
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From my limited knowledge on Yu-Gi-Oh, Atem is to Yugi kinda like how Zarathos is to Ghost Rider, and such gets included.
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And by DB's own reasoning Dante had a notable speed edge (11X FTL vs 3X FTL) and was stronger since he stomps his universal opponents several times over while Clive struggled heavily against his at his peak with humanity's willpower behind him. Never mind their conclusion being based on selective use of gameplay mechanics and headcanon, or one of Dante's primary weapons having Absolute Zero as an instant wincon.
But yeah, uninspiring matchup, bad and even self-contradictory research, wrong outcome, signs of the outcome being predetermined and the research being twisted to fit that outcome, just standard stuff really.
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Nah the matchup was probably the best imo, agree with the rest of your points
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Clive beat Omega in base without and latter best the final boss in base asura wrath style so no as mentioned both had similar upscaling chains
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Except Clive was a relative unknown.
Nero vs Hellboy would have likely been better, although it'd almost be interesting to see how they'd find a way to give DMC the loss that time.
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Dante did his god killing shit like 20 years ago and even at the time they were so fodder Dante deadass forgot their names. Combined with the DT multipliers and whatnot there's a strong case for Dante taking stats.
I have no idea why G1 didn't argue that.
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Plus 3 times speed advantage even according to their own research.
Also, that thing about humanity's willpower supporting him, is that even his own power?
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They said Clive can amp himself to match Dante's speed.
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Is this legit?
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Atp folks just coping here
They did they mention Dante upscaling chain and multipliers they didn't want to waste arguing over it because it's practically redundant and dragging shit on to get the point that Dante upscales uni tons good ass degree
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Creation Trio scaling given unironically to everyone is so mentally challenged.
Only solace is that similar leeway makes Yugi match it if not exceed.
Only solace is that similar leeway makes Yugi match it if not exceed.
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Happens when everyone argued for high ends for everyone
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They didn't argue that Dante could take stats as a whole, just speed. Which was my point, they missed out on arguements for the sake of brevity.
And nobody is coping. Don't say that, you're above that
Nobody is really all that upset, everyone agreed the fight was absolutely stellar, this isn't a beat up on the episode thing. It's just criticism
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Clive in the DB was the most generic white boy character
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Bro, its absolutely coping.
If I made posts about Eggman more likely winning Id be branded as coper. Hell, some Sonic Thread usuals likely have bad rep here already when they tried to argue year ago lol
If I made posts about Eggman more likely winning Id be branded as coper. Hell, some Sonic Thread usuals likely have bad rep here already when they tried to argue year ago lol
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No, the stamina theory they used is a 20-year old headcanon thought up to explain the regeneration not stopping the characters being downed, an honestly very common trope.
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Its not coping, it's just blatant bad research and ignorance.
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It can be cope AND bad research and ignorance tbh.
Ngl now I keep thinking that if Nolan and Bowser were given same strict story implications as Dante, theyd be far less powerful and dammit now Im coping.
Ngl now I keep thinking that if Nolan and Bowser were given same strict story implications as Dante, theyd be far less powerful and dammit now Im coping.
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That don't make the matchup uninspiring.
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Criticism against an episode is not coping and it's wild that this is a take.
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'Oh it was seen as coping back then'
Well that was stupid then and stupid now.
Especially given even as someone who disagrees with the research and verdict, I still think the episode was great because of the fight
Well that was stupid then and stupid now.
Especially given even as someone who disagrees with the research and verdict, I still think the episode was great because of the fight
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For view numbers, generally it does. There's a reason they keep doing Marvel and DC matchups: they rake in the views.
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Well true, theres a nuanced difference in what is actually coping and what is valid criticism.
But I dunno, arguments arent Sun Disk levels of bad for me. But Im not a real DMC scaler so I kinda dont count.
But I dunno, arguments arent Sun Disk levels of bad for me. But Im not a real DMC scaler so I kinda dont count.
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This aint sun disc levels of bad no. Plus a lot of what made that so bad was the response to the criticism
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