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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

99% of people in this thread agree that Maka wins, with or without Fireforce scaling. The 1% is adamantly team Ruby.
And the 1%'s name just happens to rhyme with Beekly or something like that, I can't remember their name specifically.

Bullshitting aside: given that everyone in their mother knows that Maka's smoking Ruby, my only expectation for this episode is that the death is respectful to Ruby
 
I haven't been following the debate much, but does it just boil down to Ruby only wins if you're strict towards Makas' feats while lenient towards Rubys?
Yes
99% of people in this thread agree that Maka wins, with or without Fireforce scaling. The 1% is adamantly team Ruby.
^^^

my only expectation for this episode is that the death is respectful to Ruby
Prob gonna be respectful but it still need to be a clear ass death
 
I haven't been following the debate much, but does it just boil down to Ruby only wins if you're strict towards Makas' feats while lenient towards Rubys?
So far on here, Space Battles and on the DB reddit the discussion mostly boils down to:

AP: Maka

Durability: Maka

Speed: Arguable and mostly 50/50.

Experience: Arguable, slightly leaning towards Ruby mainly from her series lasting over a longer period of time. There's debate to be had over the quality of experience had but that's super nitty-gritty splitting hairs territory.

Hax/Abilities: Maka

Weapons: I feel this one is also kinda arguable. Crescent Rose has its dust bullets which are neat, but Soul is not only a whole other person fighting alongside Maka but has his own abilities that he brings to the fight.

Weekly has his own opinions about this (perfectly reasonable not everyone needs to be a hivemind) but it's definitely heavily leaned in Maka's favor from a vast majority of people looking at it.
 
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@TartaChocholate For some reason Murata keeps retconning a bunch of his chapters to make them not canon and reset from like 50 chapters prior. The first noteworthy retcon was during the Garou vs Saitama fight, where we were going to have them talk to each other and cool off, but either due to fan backlash or whatever, he deleted that scenario entirely and gave the god form fight that we got instead. The ninja dude who can jump to a higher realm or cut cause and effect or whatever also got retconned to oblivion to where it just doesn't happen. Legit it's the most baffling decisions I've seen from a Mangaka. I don't recall any other Manga series do anything like this and it makes it hard for anyone to try and care when the stuff we read is likely just gonna be decanonized.
Speaking as a complete outsider, but looking around a bit to what the whole deal is about, I really get the impression that while One wants to write a spoof of action shonen with superheroes, Murata just wants to write a straight up by the numbers fighting shonen, while also really buying into the hype of Saitama being overpowered so he comes with over the top abilities, almost nonsensical abilities (I mean, the setting is almost entirely on Earth, there are no mentions of any sort of cosmology, and suddenly we, temporarily, have hyperspace and infinite parallel words so that the ninja dude gets a broken ability?), massive scale battles, keeps building up that god guy as the end of all villiains, etc. The retcons kinda feel like a tug o war between the two different visions.
 
Speaking of RWBY, what’s the consensus on Azula vs Cinder? I’ve heard the false Fire Lord actually has a shot at beating Cinder even with the maiden powers.
 
Speaking of RWBY, what’s the consensus on Azula vs Cinder? I’ve heard the false Fire Lord actually has a shot at beating Cinder even with the maiden powers.
From what I remember - Cinder is still the likely winner? Its just that Azula would break her by talking and screwing up which is unironically her best wincon
 
So she just makes her throw a temper tantrum due to her past and it unironically leads to Azula winning? Would be funny as hell if that is the result if that episode came to pass and psychological torture just destroys the stat difference.
 
Speaking of RWBY, what’s the consensus on Azula vs Cinder? I’ve heard the false Fire Lord actually has a shot at beating Cinder even with the maiden powers.
idk the researchers lean towards azula in that fight but idk if that would hold in the epi if they ever do it
prob cinder in a general debate but prob depends on where put both at stats
 
From what I remember - Cinder is still the likely winner? Its just that Azula would break her by talking and screwing up which is unironically her best wincon
Yeah, that's what I've seen as well. Even with how inconsistent Cinder is portrayed in the fights I feel like she'd be able to take it in the long run. Cinder has better movement, better speed (travelling and reaction) a wider range of abilities and her Aura to give her a pretty dang big durability advantage as well. Azula would most likely have better hand-to-hand training and... I suppose mental stability???
 
Personally I think Cinder beats Azula based off the things I've seen from her and Azula: higher stats (strength, speed, durability, etc), greater versatility due to her Maiden powers, and I don't think that Azula's ability to talk would mean nothing since Cinder has no personal vendetta against Azula and would just kill her as soon as possible.

That's just my take, and I've heard that Azula does have some arguments that put her higher then Cinder, but I think Cinder generally wins overall.
 
Personally I think Cinder beats Azula based off the things I've seen from her and Azula: higher stats (strength, speed, durability, etc), greater versatility due to her Maiden powers, and I don't think that Azula's ability to talk would mean nothing since Cinder has no personal vendetta against Azula and would just kill her as soon as possible.

That's just my take, and I've heard that Azula does have some arguments that put her higher then Cinder, but I think Cinder generally wins overall.
Funnily enough that almost makes it sound like the inverse of RubyMaka
 
Yeah, that's what I've seen as well. Even with how inconsistent Cinder is portrayed in the fights I feel like she'd be able to take it in the long run. Cinder has better movement, better speed (travelling and reaction) a wider range of abilities and her Aura to give her a pretty dang big durability advantage as well. Azula would most likely have better hand-to-hand training and... I suppose mental stability???
No? Cinder is absolutely more skilled and more mentally stable
 
I'm willing to grant that Cinder might take skill since she was trained by a huntsman (not raised well, but at least trained, though that's another story...)and is older than Azula.

But Cinder being the stable one? That's a laugh. Yes, Azula was crashing out hard near the end of the show, but at that point everything was basically falling apart around her. Cinder has only gotten more petulant over time, whether she's winning or not, though maybe that's just a side effect of losing her aura (figuratively speaking).

That said, yeah Cinder takes the stat trinity. Even if you scale the Avatar state higher, it's hard to argue Azula comparing to that.
 
I'm willing to grant that Cinder might take skill since she was trained by a huntsman (not raised well, but at least trained, though that's another story...)and is older than Azula.

But Cinder being the stable one? That's a laugh. Yes, Azula was crashing out hard near the end of the show, but at that point everything was basically falling apart around her. Cinder has only gotten more petulant over time, whether she's winning or not, though maybe that's just a side effect of losing her aura (figuratively speaking).

That said, yeah Cinder takes the stat trinity. Even if you scale the Avatar state higher, it's hard to argue Azula comparing to that.
She didnt lose her Aura though
 
I guess we're explaining gen-z slang now...

When Glassman and I are talking about "losing her aura", we're speaking metaphorically, not talking about the literal power system of the RWBY world, but her "cool factor", for lack of a better way of putting it.
 
I guess we're explaining gen-z slang now...

When Glassman and I are talking about "losing her aura", we're speaking metaphorically, not talking about the literal power system of the RWBY world, but her "cool factor", for lack of a better way of putting it.
No i know what it means, im literally wracking my brain as to what old lady Glass is referring to lmao

The oldest woman Cinder fought is Raven and she's like late 30s to early 40s, so unless Glass has something against milfs thats hardly 'old'
 
Ruby lowkey has a shot if it's on Remnant due to its weird ass fate driven downfall towards green eyed individuals🥱
 
The winter maiden, for someone who's supposedly a RWBY expert you sure as hell forgot who the maidens are. Also it barely being a fight doesn't help Cinder, in fact it makes it even worse that she got folded that badly in terms of keeping her aura.
 
The winter maiden, for someone who's supposedly a RWBY expert you sure as hell forgot who the maidens are.
Its not that i forgot her its that it literally wasnt a fight, it was just Fria flexing her power and then transferring them to Penny.
Also it barely being a fight doesn't help Cinder, in fact it makes it even worse that she got folded that badly in terms of keeping her aura.
Azula being triggered by an old lady without her even attacking feels even worse imo, something something 'one hair out of place'.
 
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Does Azula not get any modern vs shit scaling to get her like I dunno Moon level or whatever?

Sounds weird when Moon Avatar wank exists :V
 



So how accurate would we say this is? Not just who wins but how the powers interact in certain ways. (The creator also said there would be a Part 3 so it’s not technically over yet.)
 



So how accurate would we say this is? Not just who wins but how the powers interact in certain ways. (The creator also said there would be a Part 3 so it’s not technically over yet.)

If it was Death Battle, they'd just say Itachi wins Sharingain gg no ez

But as someone who has very little knowledge on Naruto, can Genjutsu work on someone who's an order of magnitude stronger than you? Also as lame as it would be, I don't think Itachi has the same 'soul seeing' powers as Naruto and Madara did, so he might not even know Byakuya was there.
 
though i wonder what the deciding categories would be

Speed,Power and Abilities? with both of them taking the respective stat category and the deciding factor being their abilities
 
though i wonder what the deciding categories would be

Speed,Power and Abilities? with both of them taking the respective stat category and the deciding factor being their abilities
Power and abilties def belongs to Naruto
Luffy would get highballed to planet to large planet given OP planet size but Naruto would have stronger arguments to get higher via kaguya
Speed:Luffy he'll take it but it boils down to how massive the gap between the two be to argue luffy dura negging Naruto
 
No i know what it means, im literally wracking my brain as to what old lady Glass is referring to lmao

The oldest woman Cinder fought is Raven and she's like late 30s to early 40s, so unless Glass has something against milfs thats hardly 'old'
I thought y'all were referring to Calavera
 
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