Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode V Attack of the Fanons

[Soldier_Blue]

Kylo is such an underrated punching bag.
going through his feats, his endurance is absolutely Ridiculous.

TFA showed us this. The guy was supposed to have died from a weapon powerful enough to vaporize a chunk of permacrete and make an IG-series assassin droid think twice about taking shots from.

Do you have the feats? I like endurance feats because I like to see people in pain.

You Force-foresaken ******

there's quite a few, The most Obvious one is his TFA feat but one overlooked one is in TROS. The Novelization describes the Knights of Ren cracking Kylo's skull and crushing his abdomen, this is all before he gets his life energy sucked out of him, lifted and then flung off a major spikey cliff where he goes onto break his ribs, he then proceeds to climb out of that cliff and still have the energy to revive Rey.

also earlier in the film he just walks casually out of his Tie fighter that exploded.

He's actually a hard to kill little ****, isn't he?

Lina Soh's Targons aren't really a standout design. But, damn, she looks majestic as **** with them flanking her.

Star wars ewoks is the best piece of star wars media ever.

Chewie's son in The Star Wars Holiday Special would like a word with you.

 

[Abu2411]

What is this image about? What conflict is it showing?

 

[Soldier_Blue]

What is this image about? What conflict is it showing?

Nihil marauders fighting against High Republic era Jedi. You can also see Nihil starfighters facing off against Jedi Vector starfighters & Jedi on dragons in the sky.

On the ground you see a Jedi wielding two lightsabers flanked by the allied Targons (those four-eyed cat monsters) Matari & Voru. Said Targons belong to Supreme Chancellor Lina Soh (the olive-skinned alien woman standing on the hovering platform at top right).

 

[Abu2411]

Nice

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

There's actually some good Mind Manip Feats. but what Im wondering is if it's possible for us to calc the Debris/fakemeteor stopping feat in the High Republi Adventure series.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

 

[Abu2411]

Wait that's Zeen Mrala right? She's just a talented force user with no training, so if we can calc that feat it should scale to trained padawans and above. Although she was helped by Lula, a talented padawan in her own right.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

@ByAsura attempted to calc that. He said it was outlier-ish?

 

[ByAsura]

I didn't really do an attempt because there's no way to calculate it. I do think it's an outlier, though, because it gets 14 megatons even if we assume it's just 1,000 tonnes. I could be missing some obscure SW feats, but keep in mind that these are High Republic era Padawans.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

I didn't really do an attempt because there's no way to calculate it. I do think it's an outlier, though, because it gets 14 megatons even if we assume it's just 1,000 tonnes.

What? I did a quick calc now assuming 1e6 kg and velocity of 7,777.7777 m/s and 20,000 m/s. I got low end town level for the former (7.2 Kilotons) and mid end town level (47.8 Kilotons) for the latter.

 

[ByAsura]

Sorry, I accidentally put 1 billion kg instead of 1 million kg.

Also, there's some Star Wars stuff to post.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Sorry, I accidentally put 1 billion kg instead of 1 million kg.

Also, there's some Star Wars stuff to post.

By the way, can you give me a link to that calc where a Consular-class Charger c70 has a good durability feat? That's the one from TCW where it accidentally jumps into hyperspace, comes out near a sun, and then crash-lands on some grassy planet (the one with the Lemur looking aliens).

 

[ByAsura]

Here.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Here.

Hey, can you look at these two calcs?

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I am not sure about the Glute one. And I was wondering if you could fix the Black Squadron asteroid one.

 

[ByAsura]

I think the Glute one is good enough. Most of the weight would probably be fat, skin, etc and not bones, but I don't think it'd change way too much.

Tbh, we probably need a better comparison for that Bulk Freighter. I tried, but the comic's art isn't very consistent.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

What? I did a quick calc now assuming 1e6 kg and velocity of 7,777.7777 m/s and 20,000 m/s. I got low end town level for the former (7.2 Kilotons) and mid end town level (47.8 Kilotons) for the latter.

Town level forcer fodder>Darth vader.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

in all seriousness, I fully expect High Republic Characters to Eclipse most of the Jedi in the Prequel by quite a margin.
cant wait to see Avar Kriss Matches

 

[Soldier_Blue]

I think the Glute one is good enough. Most of the weight would probably be fat, skin, etc and not bones, but I don't think it'd change way too much.

Tbh, we probably need a better comparison for that Bulk Freighter. I tried, but the comic's art isn't very consistent.

There is a shot of that First Order light cruiser next to a GR75, which we know is 90 metres. And a shot of that light cruiser next to the bulk freighter.

Town level forcer fodder>Darth vader.

in all seriousness, I fully expect High Republic Characters to Eclipse most of the Jedi in the Prequel by quite a margin.
cant wait to see Avar Kriss Matches

Yeah. She's awesome.

 

[ByAsura]

The perspective of each shot isn't very accurate, though.

It's worth noting that Han's fairly similar frieghter is 426 metres, so I could see the Romary being 500 m.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

The perspective of each shot isn't very accurate, though.

It's worth noting that Han's fairly similar frieghter is 426 metres, so I could see the Romary being 500 m.

So... Assuming as low end, mid end, high end respectively 300 metres, 400 metres, 500 metres; what would it take to bust that asteroid in that manner? It appears to have been blasted apart and the fragments scattered out at very high velocity.

 

[ByAsura]

Depends on how many shots it took (they're shown taking a couple to destroy smaller asteroids in the next chapter), but the 500 m end could actually be nuclear levels.

They look S-Type (1-5 j/cc), so I'd say it's in the Small Town level to Town level range if we use the 300 metre end and assume it was done in one shot.

 

[ByAsura]

Stuff from some of the newer Star Wars comics.

ISD bombing a village. Keep in mind that TIEs got a few shots in. It should also be noted that even though this village isn't that big, the ISD looming over it is 1.6 km in length and nearly 900 metres in width, so it's clearly not small either.

A blaster shoots a building from hundreds of metres away in a short span of time.

Vader is almost blaster-proof. Previously, these kinds of hits would do the same kind of damage to his armour as a knife would do to heavy clothing, so I think it's strong evidence that his upgraded suit is more durable.

Dengar's blaster rifle can one-shot the stabilizers of a TIE Fighter. It takes multiple blasts from Han and a Stormtrooper's blasters to do the same kind of damage, and seems comparable in scale to Chirrut Îmwe's lightbow.

V-wings can apparently damage Venator armour.

This Y-wing withstands a ton of hits from a TIE Fighter before it's even damaged. We see this kind of thing commonly, but there's also examples of Y-wings getting obliterated by a couple bursts. Shields are inconsistent, needless to say, but Y-wings are also supposed to be heavy bombers with suped up shielding.

Motok is pretty big. Maybe not the size of some of our larger cities, but decently sized. For context, the barriers look like a hexagonal net, and each hexagon is maybe a quarter of the Millennium Falcon's width. Given that the dome is durable enough to withstand the Millennium Falcon skidding on the top without any real damage, it makes an ISD-II's tractor beam fairly impressive.

Famously, Vader obliterates a blast door while heading into Hoth in one of the Star Wars youtube videos. This is reaffirmed here, only he breaks it up instead of just denting it.

A few ships from Tagge's fleet destroys a fairly small city. Keep in mind that these buildings aren't small.

Vader deflects the Falcon's laser cannons. He also looks really weird without a cape.

Aphra and co. withstand an explosion that wrecks the top floor of a building.

 

[Abu2411]

Vader looks like a kamen rider lol

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Depends on how many shots it took (they're shown taking a couple to destroy smaller asteroids in the next chapter), but the 500 m end could actually be nuclear levels.

They look S-Type (1-5 j/cc), so I'd say it's in the Small Town level to Town level range if we use the 300 metre end and assume it was done in one shot.

No way one shot did that. One proton torpedo? Sure, I can believe that. But if they did it with their KX12 laser cannons, it must have taken a burst from all.

This Y-wing withstands a ton of hits from a TIE Fighter before it's even damaged. We see this kind of thing commonly, but there's also examples of Y-wings getting obliterated by a couple bursts. Shields are inconsistent, needless to say, but Y-wings are also supposed to be heavy bombers with suped up shielding.

The examples I remember of Y-wings being destroyed quickly by TIEs is when they're up against L-s9.3 laser cannon equipped starfighters such as the TIE Advanced x1, Interceptor, and Defender. They're much more powerful than the L-s1 model used on the standard TIE.

A few ships from Tagge's fleet destroys a fairly small city. Keep in mind that these buildings aren't small.

And this is just a private fleet. Imagine how much firepower an Imperial Navy squadron can bring to bear on a city. Come to think of it, there is such an example in the comic Han Solo: Imperial Cadet. In the final issue, a squadron of Imperial TIE bombers wipes out a large city in short order. There is also a feat here where Kanina (a human woman Imperial TIE cadet) damages a 74-Z speeder bike with a kick, sending chunks of metal and parts flying out from the bike; this further backs up 9-B "peak humans" in Canon.

Vader deflects the Falcon's laser cannons. He also looks really weird without a cape.

Yeah, he looks weird without the cape and Kama (those skirt-like armour attachments around his thighs). Without the cape and with the kama, he looks okay.

Aphra and co. withstand an explosion that wrecks the top floor of a building.

Later on in the next arc, Aphra falls a good height onto moss-covered solid metal. That's actually a decent durability feat for her. There is also her taking a blow to the head from an enraged Tolvan.

Vader looks like a kamen rider lol

Darth Rider

 

[ByAsura]

Tbh, those Y-wings had their deflector shields facing forward to shrug of laser cannon shots from the towers, but the TIE/D thing is valid. There's also interceptors with similar feats in the TIE Fighter comic, IIRC, and here. But I do remember stock TIEs one shotting them.

Edit: Technically, it's a newer model Y-wing. So nvm, I guess.

Those Bombers seem to be using Proton Torpedoes, rather than Proton Bombs, while carpet bombing Howlan.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Good Video.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Tbh, those Y-wings had their deflector shields facing forward to shrug of laser cannon shots from the towers, but the TIE/D thing is valid. There's also interceptors with similar feats in the TIE Fighter comic, IIRC, and here. But I do remember stock TIEs one shotting them.

Edit: Technically, it's a newer model Y-wing. So nvm, I guess.

Those Bombers seem to be using Proton Torpedoes, rather than Proton Bombs, while carpet bombing Howlan.

There is also Vult Skerris's TIE Defender one or two shotting Y-wings in Rebels Season 3.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Good Video.

 

[Abu2411]

Nice video, although I disagree with him on a few small things.

I'm currently reading a legends book right now called Yoda: Dark Rendezvous and it's brilliant so far.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

@ByAsura
Do you still have the sandbox for the characters revised AP?

 

[ByAsura]

Yes. I'm still working on stuff, like downgrading thermal detonators.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

It looks good.
I thought you had Kylo at 8-B so I wanted to give feats and scaling for 8-A but I guess it's not needed lol

 

[ByAsura]

The only 8-B Jedi is Ahsoka (even then, she has a + rating).

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

do they all scale off of Kanans Feat?

 

[ByAsura]

Yes. They're all about baseline Multi-City Block level.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

well if we accept that Rey Lightning Feat, we could have characters like Palpatine at Multi-City block level+
also Vader and ROTJ Luke and Yoda.

 

[ByAsura]

What Rey feat?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

her force lighting being described as being hotter than a Sun.

 

[ByAsura]

That probably wouldn't be Multi-City Block level. The durability calculation (I'm assuming that's where you're getting this figure from) uses things like the convection on human skin and other forms of radiation. Lightning itself actually has a far greater temperature than the sun's surface, so the quote could very well be comparing it to cloud-to-ground lightning (something that's confirmed in the Dooku script/novel).

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

That probably wouldn't be Multi-City Block level. The durability calculation (I'm assuming that's where you're getting this figure from) uses things like the convection on human skin and other forms of radiation. Lightning itself actually has a far greater temperature than the sun's surface, so the quote could very well be comparing it to cloud-to-ground lightning (something that's confirmed in the Dooku script/novel).

it's not talking about the surface of the sun though. it mentions the sun as a whole.