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Sup ladies and gentlemen
As you know, we sophisticated gigachad DMC brosbefore hoes were ignored... Left to die on the road... Without any mercy... But you know what? We decided to came back with vengeance from the ashes of despair.
"B-B-BuT sOnIc HoW'S tHaT pOsSiBlE???"
You may ask?Foolishly? So lets start by answering your questions, shall we?
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The Underworld (or Demon World for that matter) is a home for Demons and the place where they usually reside at as we know there are only two main realms in the entire cosmology which are Human World and Demon World, the dualities of the reality, absolutely opposing one another no matter how you look at it.
But don't let this fool you into thinking that both realms are comparable to eachother. Demon World is the very product of the primordial universe which gave birth to Human World as one of its aspects in the the first place. Yeah that's right, the whole space-time continuum of the Human World is basically a part of Demon World before Pluto decided to be a lil bitch about it and yeet the thing out of the whole reality for stability's sake.
Now Human World is no different then any other inner realm when it comes to being a space-time continuum. But why is it soo special and considered a totally different realm in comparison to all other inner realms of Demon World and the multiversal structure itself is due to it having a different flow of time and laws in comparison to any other inner realm which suggests that this is indeed spatially and temporally different then any other realms of Demon World and thus would be its own structure that opposes other sibling universal structures. This is further proven correct by Peak of Mid when Lily was explaining the nature of realms within Demon World in comparison to Human World by having different rules of space and time alike.
So we have this fact and many scans that indicates Demon World is a place that houses countless L2C structures within its scope, being infinite in size or not doesn't matter coz Demon World will engulf it nonetheless and you need to travel between realms through portals soo it's safe to assume that the realms are seemingly displaced on the fifth spatial axis and would highlight the argument for 5D Demon World already. Even 6D when you factor in how Demon World has its own temporal axis in totality via Sparda sealing the flow of time of the entire Demon World as well as it being called Chaos Timeline in Peak of Mid.
But this is just a tip of the iceberg.
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This section covers regarding the special dimensions we encountered throughout the entire series. Lets start with the more obvious one. Helfilth's domain (as we like to call it for now) is also called "Nightmare space" where we fought his Nightmare versions of bosses and himself at last. Yeah the nightmares which are stated to be metaphysical in nature as well as even blatantly stated to be transcendental by DMC5 game description and DMC3 guidebook respectively. This nature of dreams (nightmares) had dream version of Lady keeping up with Helfilth herself and even defeated her. Now here the description of the RAID mode was interesting regarding her... Apparently the place she wanders at transcends space and time alike. Implying the realm where she resides at is a fifth dimensional plane of existence as that is the only description that goes with what we have here.
Secondly, we have Mundus' palace or Marble Vault as some may call it is a very special place that has two infinite stuff stored within it and on top of that, we have two separate statements that says that Mundus and his palace by extension exists outside of the flow of time... While being within Underworld... And having his alternate versions throughout the multiverse. Now what this can be taken as the palace/dimension of Mundus is soo greater in comparison to other dimensions that it goes beyond the scope of your usual temporal axis (4D) which should be a backup support of 5D realms within Demon World.
And finally, i wanna bring one more 5D realm which would be Mirror World itself. This world was obviously stated to reflect our world but things are more complicated then you think it would be. Not only does the realm is stated to transcend space-time but it has its own flow of time as well on top of that soo you will get another 5D inner realms by the end of the day. Furthermore, the God of Time and Space who is stated to know all about the past and is omniscient who is also stated to both be the watcher of time and to have the power to control time has no power within the mirror world and is viewed as nothing more than an illusion.
Now all this consistent amount of extra-ordinary dimension indicates that Demon World isn't just bounded to 4D scale and can potentially bump the cosmology scaling soo far upto 7D.
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This is very interesting part of the cosmology that we never noticed before till recently. The first realization came when Dante was teleported in the alternate timeline where Mundus won the war against Humans as those dumbasses betrayed Sparda who was helping him which led to Demon World totally consuming Human World as a whole. Now this is where the curiosity stood up... The timeline includes both Human and Demon World despite both worlds being totally separated from one another either via dimensional wall or literal space-time fabric. This and Demons couldn't even travel to Human World without any special means like Hell Gate and so on.
That said space is contained by a temporal dimension that branches infinitely and makes up the actual multiverse and lemme clear this point that Itsuno says there is only Human and Demon World in the entire cosmology, the said cosmology would be the overarching timeline.
Not convinced? Here is one more funny thing... Mundus and his palace exist outside of the flow of time and yet have his alternate versions across the multiverse which suggests that there is indeed another layer of temporal axis coz you can't have alternate versions of yourself across time while being outside of it soo it has to be another higher temporal axis which would be the overarching timeline itself.
In addition, PoC supports this notion as it is blatantly stated to be a canon alternate timeline where Human World and Demon World are already separated and has a temporal space between them which, again, would be the space between these worlds and still treated as a singular timeline.
This can mean only one thing... There is another layer of spatial and temporal axis that covers the structure of Demon World itself. The spatial axis comes from Demon World itself being displaced on an axis where it doesn't collide with Human World which, may i remind, is absolutely out of its reach through either lore or gameplay as well as there being a space between these two realms. Whereas the temporal axis comes from obviously the overarching timeline that contains both worlds totally separated from one another within its storage. This would bump the scaling upto 9D for the scalable feats of Demon Gods in the verse.
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That being said, I'll make this very clear and short. The multiverse of DMC works on MWI (Many World Interpretation) theory and since there are multiple scans for Endless/Infinite Demons within Demon World so the possible timelines would also be infinite. This is further backed up by Chen having infinite knowledge which stems from his future seeing capabilities via Beastheads. And thus, we conclude the 10D range for beings comparable to Beastheads and beyond.
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This is the blog here for better view on the overall arguments so yeah... Have fun reading it!
Agreed: @Eseseso @HelloThere1089 @Planck69 (Thread Mod Admin and agrees with a single hypertimeline soo far) @Minos_the_Judge @HelloThere1089 @CurrySenpai @Tanin_iver @Random-Helper323 @Theglassman12 (Thread Mod and agrees with a single hypertimeline soo far) @LuffyRuffy46307 @TISSG7Redgrave @Tony_di_bugalu @GarrixianXD (Content Mod and agrees with a single hypertimeline soo far)
Disagreed: @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara (Obviously lol) @Deagonx (Thread Mod) @Setsuna_tenma @Palito266 @Agnaa (Admin) @Maverick_Zero_X (Admin)
Neutral: @Woomica
As you know, we sophisticated gigachad DMC bros
"B-B-BuT sOnIc HoW'S tHaT pOsSiBlE???"
You may ask?
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The Origin of Reality
The Underworld (or Demon World for that matter) is a home for Demons and the place where they usually reside at as we know there are only two main realms in the entire cosmology which are Human World and Demon World, the dualities of the reality, absolutely opposing one another no matter how you look at it.
But don't let this fool you into thinking that both realms are comparable to eachother. Demon World is the very product of the primordial universe which gave birth to Human World as one of its aspects in the the first place. Yeah that's right, the whole space-time continuum of the Human World is basically a part of Demon World before Pluto decided to be a lil bitch about it and yeet the thing out of the whole reality for stability's sake.
Now Human World is no different then any other inner realm when it comes to being a space-time continuum. But why is it soo special and considered a totally different realm in comparison to all other inner realms of Demon World and the multiversal structure itself is due to it having a different flow of time and laws in comparison to any other inner realm which suggests that this is indeed spatially and temporally different then any other realms of Demon World and thus would be its own structure that opposes other sibling universal structures. This is further proven correct by Peak of Mid when Lily was explaining the nature of realms within Demon World in comparison to Human World by having different rules of space and time alike.
So we have this fact and many scans that indicates Demon World is a place that houses countless L2C structures within its scope, being infinite in size or not doesn't matter coz Demon World will engulf it nonetheless and you need to travel between realms through portals soo it's safe to assume that the realms are seemingly displaced on the fifth spatial axis and would highlight the argument for 5D Demon World already. Even 6D when you factor in how Demon World has its own temporal axis in totality via Sparda sealing the flow of time of the entire Demon World as well as it being called Chaos Timeline in Peak of Mid.
But this is just a tip of the iceberg.
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Realms beyond space and time
This section covers regarding the special dimensions we encountered throughout the entire series. Lets start with the more obvious one. Helfilth's domain (as we like to call it for now) is also called "Nightmare space" where we fought his Nightmare versions of bosses and himself at last. Yeah the nightmares which are stated to be metaphysical in nature as well as even blatantly stated to be transcendental by DMC5 game description and DMC3 guidebook respectively. This nature of dreams (nightmares) had dream version of Lady keeping up with Helfilth herself and even defeated her. Now here the description of the RAID mode was interesting regarding her... Apparently the place she wanders at transcends space and time alike. Implying the realm where she resides at is a fifth dimensional plane of existence as that is the only description that goes with what we have here.
Secondly, we have Mundus' palace or Marble Vault as some may call it is a very special place that has two infinite stuff stored within it and on top of that, we have two separate statements that says that Mundus and his palace by extension exists outside of the flow of time... While being within Underworld... And having his alternate versions throughout the multiverse. Now what this can be taken as the palace/dimension of Mundus is soo greater in comparison to other dimensions that it goes beyond the scope of your usual temporal axis (4D) which should be a backup support of 5D realms within Demon World.
And finally, i wanna bring one more 5D realm which would be Mirror World itself. This world was obviously stated to reflect our world but things are more complicated then you think it would be. Not only does the realm is stated to transcend space-time but it has its own flow of time as well on top of that soo you will get another 5D inner realms by the end of the day. Furthermore, the God of Time and Space who is stated to know all about the past and is omniscient who is also stated to both be the watcher of time and to have the power to control time has no power within the mirror world and is viewed as nothing more than an illusion.
Now all this consistent amount of extra-ordinary dimension indicates that Demon World isn't just bounded to 4D scale and can potentially bump the cosmology scaling soo far upto 7D.
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The Timeline
This is very interesting part of the cosmology that we never noticed before till recently. The first realization came when Dante was teleported in the alternate timeline where Mundus won the war against Humans as those dumbasses betrayed Sparda who was helping him which led to Demon World totally consuming Human World as a whole. Now this is where the curiosity stood up... The timeline includes both Human and Demon World despite both worlds being totally separated from one another either via dimensional wall or literal space-time fabric. This and Demons couldn't even travel to Human World without any special means like Hell Gate and so on.
That said space is contained by a temporal dimension that branches infinitely and makes up the actual multiverse and lemme clear this point that Itsuno says there is only Human and Demon World in the entire cosmology, the said cosmology would be the overarching timeline.
Not convinced? Here is one more funny thing... Mundus and his palace exist outside of the flow of time and yet have his alternate versions across the multiverse which suggests that there is indeed another layer of temporal axis coz you can't have alternate versions of yourself across time while being outside of it soo it has to be another higher temporal axis which would be the overarching timeline itself.
In addition, PoC supports this notion as it is blatantly stated to be a canon alternate timeline where Human World and Demon World are already separated and has a temporal space between them which, again, would be the space between these worlds and still treated as a singular timeline.
This can mean only one thing... There is another layer of spatial and temporal axis that covers the structure of Demon World itself. The spatial axis comes from Demon World itself being displaced on an axis where it doesn't collide with Human World which, may i remind, is absolutely out of its reach through either lore or gameplay as well as there being a space between these two realms. Whereas the temporal axis comes from obviously the overarching timeline that contains both worlds totally separated from one another within its storage. This would bump the scaling upto 9D for the scalable feats of Demon Gods in the verse.
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The Multiverse itself
That being said, I'll make this very clear and short. The multiverse of DMC works on MWI (Many World Interpretation) theory and since there are multiple scans for Endless/Infinite Demons within Demon World so the possible timelines would also be infinite. This is further backed up by Chen having infinite knowledge which stems from his future seeing capabilities via Beastheads. And thus, we conclude the 10D range for beings comparable to Beastheads and beyond.
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This is the blog here for better view on the overall arguments so yeah... Have fun reading it!
Agreed: @Eseseso @HelloThere1089 @Planck69 (
Disagreed: @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara (Obviously lol) @Deagonx (Thread Mod) @Setsuna_tenma @Palito266 @Agnaa (Admin) @Maverick_Zero_X (Admin)
Neutral: @Woomica
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