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I pretty much agree with Deagon and Fuji about everything except only one thing, I think they've done a good work on debunking the extra-dimension thingies, one of which is only "Haha he transcends space-time so he 5-D".
However, I only have one question in regards to Fuji's post, which might pertrude a reply from me onto it. Take into account that I'm not that knowleadgable of hyper-timelines-wanks so I might be slow to follow.
If it's the first one, then I suppose this part is fine, but if it's the second one, then I disagree
However, I only have one question in regards to Fuji's post, which might pertrude a reply from me onto it. Take into account that I'm not that knowleadgable of hyper-timelines-wanks so I might be slow to follow.
With this, are you trying to imply that the DW is only L2-C as well as the Human World, or that both are only L2-C and therefore should be contained within one timeline/space-time?Now, let's examine this proposed model with a more scrutinizing eye. These events occur during the Devil May Cry Volume 2 novel. As stated by the OP, the novel takes place in an alternate timeline where Mundus was successful in his war against the humans, causing the Demon World to subsume the Human World. This is equated to merging the two worlds together. Even outside of the novelization and Mundus' plan, the consequences of such an event are made apparent. Numerous characters make reference to or have the ability to merge the DW and HW together; It's practically the central conflict of the series at this point. So why does the OP insist that the two realms are separate, when the novel goes through great pains to explain that they were successfully merged together?
This becomes even stranger when looking deeper at DMC's current cosmology and profiles. The main basis of 2-C scaling stems from beings merging these two realms together; In order for this to be a 2-C feat at all, they must be merged on a temporal level as well, not just spatial. The natural consequence of that is that the two would share the same flow of time, and would be considered the same timeline by extension. And if they're the same timeline, then the OP's entire point falls apart. No higher-dimensional time flow is needed to compensate for the two realms sharing the same timeline. It is very strange to me that, after years of pushing for these feats to get accepted, DMC supporters are now insistent that they aren't valid at all, simply because their validity would outright debunk the notion of a higher-dimensional timeline. But enough about that. What would this more accurate model look like?
So what does this all mean? If the Human World and Demon World are merged, then they would by definition share the same timeline. There is no "greater timeline" embedding both; They are only in this interconnected state because Mundus basically glued them together. The existence of a hypertimeline is not needed to explain this chain of events, because the novel already explains it in a way that is not only consistent with the 2-C scaling, but is in fact integral to it.
In case I didn't get it across clearly enough earlier, allow me to recap: Mundus' plan is to merge the HW and DW together. The Volume 2 novel presents us with an alt timeline where Mundus' plan is successful. Ergo, the alt timeline is just a fusion of the HW and DW.
TL;DR: The entire basis of this point - that the alt timeline Human and Demon Worlds are separate timelines - is explicitly contradicted by the original source and additional context from across the rest of the series.
If it's the first one, then I suppose this part is fine, but if it's the second one, then I disagree