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Tsunade would have left Snake man hanging

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Simple and easy.
Healing on a physical, mental, and Spiritual level
Should be changed to the following along with the justification of Spiritual level being removed.
Healing on a physical and mental
My reasoning for this is cause she could not heal Naruto's injuries if he used rasenshuriken again since it cut the chakra network.


And what happened to Orochimaru's arms? They were sealed within the Reapers stomach.


So why are we assuming with all the knowledge we have of this that Tsunade can somehow heal something more severe then cutting your chakra network?

Agrees - Damage3245(Possibly for healing), YoutubeForKing,

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Disagrees - rogueprestonian, theultimate5105, KingTempest, Tdjwo, Trihexa102, Deceived3596, Stryker861, LephyrTheRevanchist, DarkDragonMedeus,
 
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I disagree, Orochimaru clearly saw her as an alternative to getting his hands back. If it was just Physical or Mental healing he would have just relied on Kabuto who is a top tier medical ninja.

So with logical deduction we can infer, Orochimaru lost his spiritual arms, His personal medic ninja couldn’t heal them back, he looked for Tsunade, Tsunade said she could heal them just like how Orochimaru thought, She considered it for getting her bf back but instead chose the village.

Therefore She can heal the spiritual body. She just refuses to do so.
 
Disagree these are completely different injuries
One is a billion blades shredding the chakra network that connects to every cell in the body and the other is parts of the soul removed
 
Disagreed, Orochimaru is a trust worthy source , he has basically knowledge on almost anything , and he believed tsunade could him and she apparently believed she could too.
 
If she's directly stated capable of healing Orochimaru's damaged soul, than she'd have soul-based healing.

Appealing her inability to heal damage done to one's chakra system doesn't negate that since one's chakra system isn't one's soul, those are entirely two different things.

Disagree.
 
The chakra pathway system is enmeshed within the body, transporting chakra through the body and each organ as the circulatory system does blood. The system is in some way involved in the creation of chakra itself as well, as every cell in the body is connected to this pathway system by a capillary which draws out the cell's physical energy and is refined into chakra by several organs, such as the heart. this all details with organs , while the spirit energy is also involved it , is different from the spirit or soul itself.
 
The entire narrative of that arc is that Tsunade WAS capable of healing Oro's soul but chose to put duty above her selfish desire to see her loved ones again by taking the title of Hokage

Like I literally do not know how much more blatant you can get
 
If she's directly stated capable of healing Orochimaru's damaged soul, than she'd have soul-based healing.

Appealing her inability to heal damage done to one's chakra system doesn't negate that since one's chakra system isn't one's soul, those are entirely two different things.

Disagree.
Orochimaru lost his spiritual arms and said that Tsunade could heal them

Come on now
Theirs no hard evidence their just assuming she can based on the fact she's the best healer in the world. The fact tsunade didn't even know what happen to his arms means she probably can't heal them. And hasn't seen anything like this before
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Theirs no hard evidence their just assuming she can based on the fact she's the best healer in the world. The fact tsunade didn't even know what happen to his arms means she probably can't heal them
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honestly that's clear evidence enough if orochimaru truly believes she can , and even she also believes the same . I don't see why we cant take their words when they made a blatant statement.
 
honestly that's clear evidence enough if orochimaru truly believes she can , and even she also believes the same . I don't see why we cant take their words when they made a blatant statement.
Dued she doesn't even know what's going on with his arms to begin with. She assuming she can even tho she doesn't know what happened
 
Not knowing what happened is not a counter to knowing how to heal em
Do you have any feats of this magnitude to support her being able to heal his arms when she contradicted herself in the future with Naruto?

Will reply to others in the future atm busy with stuff.
 
Not knowing what happened is not a counter to knowing how to heal em
she even states the possible cause as something to do with a curse or something, orochimaru who has studied ninjutsu and has more knowledge than most in the ninja world believes she can heal and she believes the same , even jiraiya and shizune believes she can, so I don't see how such a blatant statement by multiple knowledgeable chars would mean otherwise. unless they mean we should disregard the same for any other verse which have a lot of statements with no backing.
 
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Not knowing what happened is not a counter to knowing how to heal em
That's like doctor saying he can heal a disease he's never dealt with or even understands. Her and orochimaru would be unreliable sources their going off assumptions
 
Theirs no hard evidence their just assuming she can based on the fact she's the best healer in the world. The fact tsunade didn't even know what happen to his arms means she probably can't heal them. And hasn't seen anything like this before
The assumption exist because of Orochimaru's own actions and words, if he believes Tsunade's capable of healing his damaged soul, than that implies she's capable of healing his damaged soul, he wouldn't have went to Tsunade if he did believe she was incapable of performing such an action.

The fact she didn't know what caused his arms to be damaged in the first place doesn't mean she's incapable of healing spiritual damage, that doesn't logically follow since those are entirely two separate points. The evidence points to her having this ability, so unless it's directly or implicitly contradicted, it would stand most likely true.
 
That's like doctor saying he can heal a disease he's never dealt with or even understands. Her and orochimaru would be unreliable sources their going off assumptions
Wrong, it's a doctor saying he can heal a disease but he wants context

If I bring you somebody blind, the doctor's gonna need to know what happened before he can heal the person

You can't look at dead hands and automatically know "there's no soul in there"
 
The assumption exist because of Orochimaru's own actions and words, if he believes Tsunade's capable of healing his damaged soul, than that implies she's capable of healing his damaged soul, he wouldn't have went to Tsunade if he did believe she was incapable of performing such an action.

The fact she didn't know what caused his arms to be damaged in the first place doesn't mean she's incapable of healing spiritual damage, that doesn't logically follow since those are entirely two separate points. The evidence points to her having this ability, unless directly or implicitly contradicted, it would stand most likely true.
It would be an assumption that Tsunade could heal his wounds. She could have healed his flesh wounds but not his spiritual seeing as his arms are sealed within the Reaper. It even affected Orochimaru when he switched bodies, he lost ability to use jutsu with signs. That's not something Tsunade can fix.
 
Orochimaru, one of the smartest characters within the series, believes Tsunade is capable of healing the spiritual injuries he sustained against Hiruzen. The logical deduction from this would be Tsunade's most likely able to heal spiritual damage because one of the smarest characters within the series believes she can.

If you don't have actual, either explicit or implicit evidence which contradicts that interpretation, then we'd assume she's capable of healing spiritual damage, because all the evidence currently points to her having that level of healing.
 
Orochimaru, one of the smartest characters within the series, believes Tsunade is capable of healing the spiritual injuries he sustained against Hiruzen. The logical deduction from this would be Tsunade's most likely able to heal spiritual damage because one of the smarest characters within the series believes she can.

If you don't have actual, either explicit or implicit evidence which contradicts that interpretation, then we'd assume she's capable of healing spiritual damage, because all the evidence currently points to her having that level of healing.
Orochimaru never said she could heal spiritual wounds. Orochimaru actually swapped bodies with another person and his arms worked he just couldn't use any ninjustu like he use to Becasue his soul arms were gone. At best she could have just healed his physical arms and removed the seal and still wouldn't be able to use ninjustu. He would just have working arms with no soul
 
Orochimaru never said she could heal spiritual wounds. Orochimaru actually swapped bodies with another person and his arms worked he just couldn't use any ninjustu like he use to Becasue his soul arms were gone. At best she could have just healed his physical arms and removed the seal and still wouldn't be able to use ninjustu. He would just have working arms with no soul
Orochimaru said she's the only one capable of healing his wounds, which are spiritual in nature, he doesn't need to directly say "she's able to heal spiritual damage" when the entire context of the scene implicitly says this.

It's pretty explicitly talking about the damages to his soul, if it was only physical damage, then literally every single medical nin could've healed him, but not every single medical nin can heal spiritual damage, unlike Tsunade who's implied to be the only medical nin who can heal damage done to the soul. Your assumptions are innately more faulty compared to mine when given context.
 
Orochimaru never said she could heal spiritual wounds. Orochimaru actually swapped bodies with another person and his arms worked he just couldn't use any ninjustu like he use to Becasue his soul arms were gone. At best she could have just healed his physical arms and removed the seal and still wouldn't be able to use ninjustu. He would just have working arms with no soul
you cant say that cause u have no proof or evidence she couldn't , Orochimaru believed if she healed him he would be able to use ninjutsu again to presume his destruction of the leaf which clearly hints at healing on a spiritual level cause the soul of his hands were sealed nullifying his ability to use ninjutsu, at this point your just making assumptions.
 
you cant say that cause u have no proof , Orochimaru believed if she healed him he would be able to use ninjutsu again to presume his destruction of the leaf which clearly hints at healing on a spiritual level cause the soul of his hands was sealed nullifying his ability to use ninjutsu, at this point your just making assumptions.
Vice versa also he could still use ninjustu to some degree after changing bodies. We see him using it on 4 tails naruto even tho his arms soul was still gone.
 
Vice versa also he could still use ninjustu to some degree after changing bodies. We see him using it on 4 tails naruto even tho his arms soul was still gone.
Orochimaru can not use hand signs at all till he got his soul back from the death reaper seal. Can he use the hands? Yes but he can't do jutsu.
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Vice versa also he could still use ninjustu to some degree after changing bodies. We see him using it on 4 tails naruto even tho his arms soul was still gone.
Orochimaru used his snake ninjutsu which from what we've seen doesn't require hand signs and the Rashamon which could be used because he has his summoning jutsu inscribed into his arms.

The Reaper Death Seal didn't take away his ability to use all ninjutsu it took through his hands the ability to use hand signs which you need for like 90% of ninjutsu.
 
Orochimaru is one of the most knowledge characters in the series regarding jutsu, thats literally his thing. he also specializes in jutsu that involves your soul hopping bodies. why would he even remotely consider Tsunade viable if she couldn't heal his arms.

and yes Orochimaru has intimate knoweldge of how the reaper death seal works, which is why later on when theres nobody in the leaf, he is capable of reversing the effects by cutting open the demons stomach and freeing the hokage that were trapped in there.
 
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