Touhou Revisions: Stop bullying me, Junko Edition

[Read_this_post]

"It would also make absolutely no sense for oni and hermits to be infinitely superior to goddesses. Reimu, Marisa, and others have beaten down some goddesses before."

Saikou himself said it. Gods and godesses in touhou can be complete fodder.

"While Reimu isn't as strong as Kasen, she should at least be comparable."

They are not physically comparable. Reimu couldnt scratch kasen and needed durability negating hax and help from another kasen to do anything

"And comparable doesn't always mean equal. For example, Marisa is comparable to Reimu, even though she can barely fight with her."

Yes. But if you are unable to damage someone. You are not comparable

 

[Read_this_post]

Im posting the scaling tomorrow hopefully to clear things up a little bit. In the meantime...

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Besides, that only comes from one manga issue. You can't use just that one showing and claim everything else shown is just a result of spell cards.

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

I don't care how many times you say "That's just because of spell cards", it doesn't change the matter that not every showing is just because of spell card bullcrap.

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

And while some goddesses are fodder, like Joon, I severely doubt that Kasen is infinitely superior to goddesses like Shinki.

 

[Read_this_post]

That one manga issue is the only example we have seen of reimu fighting an oni at full power. And she cant compete. That does not get outruled by spellcards where anybody can win.

You are saying that "not every showing is spellcard bullcrap" yet the one time we actually do see physical fighting, you outrule it due to reimu having many victories in spellcard battles (which again, anybody can win)

Do you not see the error in your logic here?

Not every showing and statement is outruled by spellcards. Only the showings that directly fall under spell cards are outruled. Because again, you would have this being used for scaling

Shinki is pc 98. We dont regard it as cannon. If we considered it as consistent cannon then marisa and reimu would straight up scale.

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

You do realize that you once explicitly stated that PC-98 characters would get an "At least High 3-A, possibly Low 2-C" rating?

Or do you constantly contradict yourself all the time?

Anyways, I've had enough. Bye.

 

[Read_this_post]

@Unoriginal Memes I have not said that pc 98 is cannon on this thread or recently at all. I said that almost a year ago. My past beliefs have nothing to do with my current beliefs at all.

Unless you are talking about when i said pc 98 would allow them to scale if it were used. Which isnt contradictory at all since I explicitely said in the same sentence it was non cannon and therefore cannot be used.

Better off since you clearly dont have a clue about anything being discussed in the thread.

Edit: Anyway, as i was saying. Im making the actual scale (not the debunk list) to clear things up.

 

[Junkoposter]

bump

 

[Dvorak1902]

bemp

 

[Read_this_post]

Working on the scaling thingy

 

[Udlmaster]

OMG, 1-A WoD and now High 3-A Touhou, is it my birthday?!

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Stating someone knows nothing isn't a good way for people to respect your opinions.

 

[Udlmaster]

You know nothing, John Snow

 

[Read_this_post]

I got annoyed because you completely misrepresented my comments and used it to say i constantly contradict myself all the time. Ill try to get a better night sleep before getting into this powerscale list. Sorry if i offended you.

(Also wod is becoming 1-A?)

 

[Udlmaster]

Well, my major opponent against it has joined the train, so, the argument against has become basically dead.

And so, with the argument for being the strongest it's ever been and the opposition being basically dead, it's basically confirmed now.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

I would hope you'd care less about 1-A and merely focus on making more profiles. That verse profile is just sad.

 

[Udlmaster]

I'm already ahead of you on that, spoke to Ultima on discord saying I'm gonna clean up the profiles when they're 1-A, as 1-A profiles need to be held to a higher standard.

 

[Azh'Voroph_the_Crypt_Lord]

So, 2hu now is High 3-A uhh???

rip UT


Also, now I'll wait the new RT to add RW to Patchy k_hand:

 

[Junkoposter]

wut

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Undertale is 2-B, so...

 

[Read_this_post]

For now at least

 

[Andytrenom]

This upgrade functinonally changes nothing of how the two verses stack up to each other

This is derailing tho

 

[Junkoposter]

bump this is gonna take forever to finish ovo

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

bump this is gonna take forever to finish ovo

It's going faster than my Homestuck revisions at least

 

[Azh'Voroph_the_Crypt_Lord]

Undertale is 2-B, so...

2B but with unknown speed.

Yuyuko speed blitz + death manip = UT ded

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

That has nothing to do with the thread so let's not derail.

What are we even waiting for?

 

[Azh'Voroph_the_Crypt_Lord]

Idk dude

But why the profiles still has the High 4-C tier??? I think it would be changed to High 3-A

Anyway, before this happens, I would make some interesting thing xd

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

It's still High 4-C because the thread isn't finished and some stuff was still being discussed?

 

[Azh'Voroph_the_Crypt_Lord]

Perhaps

SoOoOoOoOoOo

Let's start bumping still this thread continues, because talk about 2hu tier it's so hard as trying to beat Reisen

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

It's High 4-C because Read my Post wants to make nearly everyone 6-C yet I've been too lazy to write yet another wall of text to his wall of text, but also he's apparently making a scale so idk.

 

[Dvorak1902]

Nah, Marisa is harder than Reisen, Magicannon: Final Master Spark still is part of my nightmares.

 

[Azh'Voroph_the_Crypt_Lord]

Nah, Marisa is harder than Reisen, Magicannon: Final Master Spark still is part of my nightmares.

Oh yeah that's a good one, I still remember when I lose all my continues in this fight and have the bad ending, and I was something like "wHuT??"

BuuuUuUut, honestly I think that Reimu is the harder one in the stage 4

(I still awakening in the middle of the night because of her "Duplex Barrier" or her "Fantasy Seal")

 

[Azh'Voroph_the_Crypt_Lord]

It's High 4-C because Read my Post wants to make nearly everyone 6-C yet I've been too lazy to write yet another wall of text to his wall of text, but also he's apparently making a scale so idk.

Oh well.

Btw, why don't uses Utsuho's feats to make more scalling and sustain more the High 4-C 2hu??

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

No one scales to Okuu.

Marisa's feat is too vague to sustain the verse on its own

The Catfish is a dream (And no, the Dream World being a thing doesn't change that)

And Suwako has no feat

There is nothing between 6-C and High 3-A.

 

[Read_this_post]

I'm making the list so you will stop saying that I'm downgrading nearly everyone to island level

I'll get onto he others in a bit

 

[Naeblis495]

No one scales to Okuu.
Marisa's feat is too vague to sustain the verse on its own

The Catfish is a dream (And no, the Dream World being a thing doesn't change that)

And Suwako has no feat

There is nothing between 6-C and High 3-A.

i'm kinda out of the loop here, what is the marisa feat being referenced here ?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

My dude when you refuse to scale anyone that isn't a Sage or a oni to a feat, that's pretty much making everyone 6-C.

 

[Azh'Voroph_the_Crypt_Lord]

Well Marisa has some relatiom with the stars so I see her statement accurate k_hand:

And why no one scales from Utsuho

And also why does Meiling It's just 6C??? I mean, I think she would be comparable to Sakuya vía... memes v:

 

[Azh'Voroph_the_Crypt_Lord]

And Also Why no one uses some another feats as Kaguya's Infinite corridor or Komachi's infinite river (it was like that, no?? :v)