To everyone - Yes the feats would be much more higher than 5-B cause if anything the worlds are shown to have celestial events, which would make them at least 4-B, then I have been trying to get the part where Bonnie referred to the world as an alternate reality, but really have not had that much time to keep watching it, as I end up just watching the whole episode instead of skipping through it.
There are 2 statements that I think would old up for a higher than 4-B tiering
1. Damon telling Elena that he was in another space and time entirely and
2. Then the alternate reality statements.
The second statement is tricky as while I think it was Bonnie who said it, I cannot be sure also as it may be Kai, Joshua, Josie or anyone really.
And based on the visuals and events (one of which mentioned by ByAsura), they can be claimed to be another universe.
The reason why I went with "At least 5-B" is simply because the first statement was made by Damon and not really someone strong in physics or witchcraft, granted he made the statement after been stuck with Bonnie for months, so that should lend some credibility to it, regardless, if it is the only statement, then we cannot use it to scale them to Universe level.
The second statement is only valid if it was made by Bonnie or any of the Gemini witches and I still have not found out who made the statement.
So what I am saying is that we can bump it up to "At least 4-B" cause of the celestial events that are clearly happening and you would need at least a solar system for such. If someone has a compelling argument for why it should be Universal, go for it, I do not have that.
About the Prep time, here are the needed things to create a prison world.
An Ascendant
A bennet witch blood
A powerful celestial event to draw and bind it from.
And a host of Gemini witch
The Ascendant is needed to channel the celestial event and possesses no magical power of its own (Basically a trinket)
The bennet witch blood is used to bind the ascendant so it can channel the celestial event
The celestial event provides the magical power needed
The Gemini witch needing to say the spell.
So out of these 4 only the celestial event can be count as the prep actually needed as it is the thing creating the output of such power.
Bonnie could do this without the celestial event, hence why I said she herself would not need prep time in this key since she could create the world without any celestial event to draw from.
On this point, it seems to me like the psychic dimension is a mental space not a physical creation. The dude did say “look into your mind” when he helped her reach it, no?
ByAsura answered you perfectly, so there is not much to say other than, these dimensions are literally an "afterlife"
Regarding the prison realms though, if a bunch of highschoolers made one, that does seem a bit suspicious. Is there any context there?
it happened in legacies, I will not know cause honestly I stopped watching the nonsense years ago. But hey they managed to butcher the entire verse, I will not be surprised if a 5 years old vampire beats 500 years old one also.
Am still doing exams so I'm still very busy. I agree with most of your point but heavily disagree on the reasons why TO witches wouldn't scale to this feat.
You've pointed out why TO witches wouldn't scale said creation feat
due to site rules but the site rules clearly has reasons why TO high tier witches should scale above or comparable to the tvd witches via scaling.
Inadu should be getting 5b and higher due to the fact that kol mikaelson is has the best knowledge on witch craft and has created more dark object in this series. Literally kol has created 90% of the dark object in this entire series going by what we've seen.
Kol knew about the immortality cure and about silas and amara long before mystic falls gang knew of such. He knew silas has the power to bring hell on earth and like you've (the op) pointed out, tessa considers silas as her equal. So kol clearly knew the scale of power that tessa and silas possess for him to be scared to such an extent.
Silas feat of entering klaus mind was done easily by inadu who indeed showed more potent psychic power than silas. Despite the mikaelsons and kol knowing about silas and tessa they where still called inadu the most powerful witch in existence.
This clearly means inadu is superior to other witch as she was more of an anomaly than them and her existence became a new form of dark magic that others could practice. Narratively speaking, inadu was portrayed as someone far superior to other witches and has struck more fear in the mikaelsons and he statement backing her up as to why she is indeed the most powerful witch. Your scaling would infact affect TO as inadu should be getting 5b and likely higher due to this.
Dahlia and gatekeeper davina should also be getting the 5b scaling to. Esther knew about the Bennett bloodline power and has channeled it before when she wanted to reverse her children immortality and kill them why they where still linked, but still believed dahlia powers knows no bound despite having tapped into a bloodline with some of the most insane creation feat in the verse. Dahlia magic should be equivalent to tessa and silas.
Gatekeeper davina possess all the ancestral magic in new Orleans and without her stamp of approval, witches can't do magic since everything flows through her. Davina would scale to tessa due to the ancestors magic being capable of creating a new upgraded original that possess the bite of the 7 wolves pack that exist in this series. It should be worth noting that when esther created the first vampires, she channeled the sun (celestial event), the white oak (immortality) and the blood of a doppelganger (tatia). The ancestors created lucien with pure ancestral magic and that's the reason freya needed davina to die so she can use her to channel ancestral magic then perform the immortality reversal spell. Gatekeeper davina has enough power to scale to bonnie. Before anyone bring hope defeated her when she was 7, hope didn't defeat davina, she only broke the salt that was keeping connected to the real world.
As for hope she has to many hype to her name to make it possible for her to scale. I don't particularly like legacies and neither do I think hope lived up to her potential but most author if not every author seems to think hope is the strongest being and above everyon else.
I don't remember if it you who claimed to not have watched TO, but if it was you then I would recommend you watching it as the scale you brought up particularly affects the 4 witches I called out. Tvd and TO are more intertwined compared to legacies.
This is a lot, can you make a thread?
My entire argument about them not cross-scaling is that out of everyone in the Originals, only Klaus ever met Silas and then he lost to him woefully, like it was not even a fight and same thing with Inadu, so you cannot really use his statements to judge has he never got to experience the full extent of their powers.
I plan on making a thread for TO witches but not cause of cross-scaling, but because some witches performed feats that needed others to draw from Celestial events to perform.
