Touhou Discussion Thread 3 ⌈Eternal Fantasy Edition⌋

[Deidalius]

Sorry, the image has too many pixels so my computer crashes whenever I try to open it. Could you try compressing it more?

Is the image pixelated enough to satisfy your artistic preferences, or should I compress it even further beyond?

(Yes, I drew this in like 10 minutes to make this stupid joke)

 

[SomeJJJJ]

has anyone wondered, in this verse is there or can the characters survive the vacuum of space? (tenshi using his last spell against almost the entire cast of SWR in space is a good example of this)?

 

[Deidalius]

has anyone wondered, in this verse is there or can the characters survive the vacuum of space? (tenshi using his last spell against almost the entire cast of SWR in space is a good example of this)?

I am pretty certain that the playable characters in Touhou 15 flew to the moon so they'd be capable of surviving in the vacuum of space. I don't know much about the others so I can't tell.

 

[Shmooply]

Bro...?

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Bro...?

Margaret Thatcher didn't die, she just passed into fantasy.

 

[Shmooply]

Me placing a shotgun under my pillow after mastering lucid dreaming so I can enter Gensokyo and locate Cum Snatcher:

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Me placing a shotgun under my pillow after mastering lucid dreaming so I can enter Gensokyo and locate Cum Snatcher:

Don't forget to have Mokou sign your gun while you're there.

 

[Deidalius]

How would Margaret Tatcher look like as an Touhou girl?

 

[Shmooply]

Don't forget to have Mokou sign your gun while you're there.

"hey bro i got the gun signed but it was really hard to convince mokou to sign it enjoy your new gun"

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

By the way, drafts are proceeding smoothly, and so far I'm liking how most of the threads are formatted. Once I get a thread to 90%~ completion, I'll make a sandbox to see how it translates to VSBW's format, mainly to see how good spoiler tabs look. Think I'll keep the trend of having art at the top of every thread, maybe even some music to help set the vibe. Can't claim these revisions are as big as I say they are if they don't have the presentation to match, after all.

Research is trucking along at the same pace as usual, just kinda going through a bunch of interviews and blog posts at the moment. ZUN's afterwords in the fairy manga are unironically insane for one specific thing I have planned, and ZUN's old blog seems to have some very interesting statements as well (although I just got started on that, so we'll see). I think I'm on pace to have all three facets of the revision (research, threads, and profiles) almost done, if not completely done by the time Touhoufest rolls around, so ig expect the first thread to hit some time in May or June. Don't hold me to that, though.

 

[SomeJJJJ]

By the way, drafts are proceeding smoothly, and so far I'm liking how most of the threads are formatted. Once I get a thread to 90%~ completion, I'll make a sandbox to see how it translates to VSBW's format, mainly to see how good spoiler tabs look. Think I'll keep the trend of having art at the top of every thread, maybe even some music to help set the vibe. Can't claim these revisions are as big as I say they are if they don't have the presentation to match, after all.

Research is trucking along at the same pace as usual, just kinda going through a bunch of interviews and blog posts at the moment. ZUN's afterwords in the fairy manga are unironically insane for one specific thing I have planned, and ZUN's old blog seems to have some very interesting statements as well (although I just got started on that, so we'll see). I think I'm on pace to have all three facets of the revision (research, threads, and profiles) almost done, if not completely done by the time Touhoufest rolls around, so ig expect the first thread to hit some time in May or June. Don't hold me to that, though.

thread of?

 

[NothingToDebateWith]

thread of?

Consecutive Touhou Revisions. She plans to set a record, haha.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

40 threads, by my current estimation. Will almost certainly be more than that, though, and I'm looking to hit 50 by the end.

 

[SomeJJJJ]

Man, a LOT of time will took, counterpoints, waits, misconceptions and a lot of more things.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

I guarantee whatever counterpoints come up, I can shoot down. That's the fun of compiling tens of thousands of words of evidence.

 

[SomeJJJJ]

Hmm... may I ask, what will the first thread be about? for some reason I sense that it could be the 2-B/2-A upgrade of the verse or maybe a CRT for Marisa

 

[Shmooply]

Hax additions and upgrades always take precedent before the tier stuff, so please wait warmly for five years.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Hmm... may I ask, what will the first thread be about? for some reason I sense that it could be the 2-B/2-A upgrade of the verse or maybe a CRT for Marisa

First CRT will be profile rewrites. After that, a CRT for Reimu and Marisa's abilities. From there, I'll go through each game one by one and cover all the relevant ability additions for those characters, followed by additions for fighting game characters --> manga characters --> PC-98 characters --> everyone else. Then a CRT focused on general ability additions that apply to multiple people at once, followed by a physiology CRT for everyone except gods and youkai... after which, I have no order decided upon aside from a very vague idea.

Tiering revisions are dead last though lol

Hax additions and upgrades always take precedent before the tier stuff, so please wait warmly for five years.

Consider: The hax additions are going to be very funny.

 

[SomeJJJJ]

First CRT will be profile rewrites.

which will be in May or June?

followed by a physiology CRT for everyone except gods and youkai...

You mean, many characters will have physiology explaination? or CRT

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

which will be in May or June?

That's what I'm aiming for.

You mean, many characters will have physiology explaination? or CRT

I'll be doing a single CRT covering physiology additions for hermits, phantoms, vengeful spirits, celestials, Lunarians, and so on. Gods and youkai will get their own dedicated threads.

Thinking on it now, though, it may need to be split up into two parts.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

ZUN's old blog seems to have some very interesting statements as well (although I just got started on that, so we'll see).

I was 100% right btw, holy shit lol

 

[SomeJJJJ]

I was 100% right btw, holy shit lol

Example?

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Example?

Have fun. Also, we have a direct WoG statement that Touhou characters are, at minimum, planet busters. So that's cool.

 

[SomeJJJJ]

Have fun. Also, we have a direct WoG statement that Touhou characters are, at minimum, planet busters. So that's cool.

so, tiers 8 or higher are no more?

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

so, tiers 8 or higher are no more?

Oh I phrased that poorly, low tiers remain unchanged. I just thought having a direct planet level statement from ZUN was funny.

Although you could argue that the statement would apply to Wriggle and Mystia...

 

[Guardian_Doge]

Actually!!! The World clearly refers to gensokyo the island!! which is only island sized zzz.......

 

[SomeJJJJ]

Oh I phrased that poorly, low tiers remain unchanged. I just thought having a direct planet level statement from ZUN was funny.

Although you could argue that the statement would apply to Wriggle and Mystia...

umm... so this only applies to IN characters?

 

[Hypertornado099]

Space Survival is now an ability, so you can replace the Self-Sustenance type 1 on profiles with it, though only if the justification is for characters who survive in space

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Actually!!! The World clearly refers to gensokyo the island!! which is only island sized zzz.......

ermmm... world can be translated as universe so it's actually a universe level feat

Space Survival is now an ability, so you can replace the Self-Sustenance type 1 on profiles with it, though only if the justification is for characters who survive in space

Do we even have type 1 SS on any profiles? Aside from the Sky-Blue Magatama, but that was specifically for an anoxic zone.

 

[SomeJJJJ]

are there even characters in this verse that can survive space? (i wondered this before)

 

[Topaz404]

I see some poor poor bastard on another app trying to do Touhou vs Godzilla-verse characters. We know Touhou can easily solo Godzilla verse. Poor man

 

[Topaz404]

OKay, okay, i have a really dumb MU idea for Byakuren, but hear me out
Supes could actually be a decent pick. Sure, Byakuren probably stomps (i think she gets the funny Doremy scaling as well)

But like
Theres connections! Some are better then none

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

For a while I was worried that I was misinterpreting the scene at the end of AoCF where Reimu instantly adapts to Shion's aura and starts drawing infinite power from it, because that felt way too good to be true, but no, it really is just some bullshit ZUN didn't think too hard about.

 

[SomeJJJJ]

For a while I was worried that I was misinterpreting the scene at the end of AoCF where Reimu instantly adapts to Shion's aura and starts drawing infinite power from it, because that felt way too good to be true, but no, it really is just some bullshit ZUN didn't think too hard about.

what is ZUN meaning? (and yeah, it seemed too good to be true , though , we have the statement of miko saying reimu has an infinite potential)

 

[Owlbox]

Where do we get Marisa and Reimu age?

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Where do we get Marisa and Reimu age?

Presumably from the fact that the most recent description of their age suggests they're old enough to legally drink in Japan, as when they invite Sumireko to a party in CoLA, Sumireko responds that she can't drink with them because she isn't old enough. So they're definitely older than Sumireko (who is 16, iirc), and Sumireko has no issues with them drinking despite being against underage drinking.

 

[SomeJJJJ]

Presumably from the fact that the most recent description of their age suggests they're old enough to legally drink in Japan, as when they invite Sumireko to a party in CoLA, Sumireko responds that she can't drink with them because she isn't old enough. So they're definitely older than Sumireko (who is 16, iirc), and Sumireko has no issues with them drinking despite being against underage drinking.

umm... in which chapter? I also remember hearing that ZUN didn't like the depiction of minors drinking Sake but well the existence of some japanese globin contradicts that.

 

[Deidalius]

umm... in which chapter? I also remember hearing that ZUN didn't like the depiction of minors drinking Sake but well the existence of some japanese globin contradicts that.

Suika's older than my granny sooooo

 

[Robo432343]

the 2-C downgrade is coming

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

the 2-C downgrade is coming

Says who?

umm... in which chapter? I also remember hearing that ZUN didn't like the depiction of minors drinking Sake but well the existence of some japanese globin contradicts that.

Chapter 32.