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Touhou Discussion Thread 3 ⌈Eternal Fantasy Edition⌋

ability additions
speaking of ability additions
Sakuya should get fire manip for this spell card right?
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Yeah, if you dont mind me adding on as well....
Seija Kijin getting some form of Social Influencing, mainly because she gaslit Shimmy to go along with her plans of weak youkai revolution, even if it.....failed and blew up in her face (im pretty sure that was her goal, anyways)
 
Does Outerversal even attract people who are solely fans of a series because of the powerscaling anymore?

Those people seem to just go after High outerversal and Boundless series only powerscalers know about.
 
speaking of ability additions
Sakuya should get fire manip for this spell card right?
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No. That's not an official spell card description, but a fanmade one. The telltale sign of this is that there's no Japanese text being translated; The original text is in english (when it definitely wouldn't be if it was written by ZUN).
Yeah, if you dont mind me adding on as well....
Seija Kijin getting some form of Social Influencing, mainly because she gaslit Shimmy to go along with her plans of weak youkai revolution, even if it.....failed and blew up in her face (im pretty sure that was her goal, anyways)
Potentially, although it's not nearly as impressive as the kind of social influencing seen elsewhere in the series.
 
No. That's not an official spell card description, but a fanmade one. The telltale sign of this is that there's no Japanese text being translated; The original text is in english (when it definitely wouldn't be if it was written by ZUN).

Potentially, although it's not nearly as impressive as the kind of social influencing seen elsewhere in the series.
I mean, yeah, thats true, but its something i felt like made sense. It takes a lot of charisma and knowing what to say in order to incite a rebellion/revolution, failed or not
 
Does anyone have a scan of Marisa almost killing Seiga? it is in her current profile but has no scan.
 
Also, my previous comment was in a more general sense, not just in regards to tiering. I will have to get the boring laundry lists of ability additions out of the way first before moving on to verse mechanics and the like. For example -
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talking about ability additions , Marisa could get Small size? (lol) she seems to be too tiny even by human standards
 
After looking at my checklist and what I've added recently, I think I can confidently say we'll hit 50 threads in total. Ideally, I'd like to keep it at exactly 50.
 
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Remilia and Flandre in this mod react to the sun by covering themselves (They're dropped by the Brain of Cthulhu) which is a nice detail. Not many Terraria mods have pets react in this sort of way.
 
I was reminded of the Touhou wiki's abysmal divine spirit page so I made an image breaking it down.
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The fact that bunrei isn't mentioned at all is, to be blunt, an embarrassment.
 
I was reminded of the Touhou wiki's abysmal divine spirit page so I made an image breaking it down.
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Speaking of that wiki, what do you think about those things like, "the known playable routes caninocity in games" they literally have a page where they say that the canonicity of playable routes is ambiguous and only a few routes tend to be canon, something like "the canon route in EoSD is the Reimu's Route because Akyuu says she solved the incident" also, that canon routes can be a problem in the canonicity blog? I heard that ZUN said that the real ending of UFO is Marisa's B or that it is difficult to know for sure if Marisa's ending in LoLK is canon in the LoLK SCoOW interview
 
Speaking of that wiki, what do you think about those things like, "the known playable routes caninocity in games" they literally have a page where they say that the canonicity of playable routes is ambiguous and only a few routes tend to be canon, something like "the canon route in EoSD is the Reimu's Route because Akyuu says she solved the incident" also, that canon routes can be a problem in the canonicity blog? I heard that ZUN said that the real ending of UFO is Marisa's B or that it is difficult to know for sure if Marisa's ending in LoLK is canon in the LoLK SCoOW interview
It won't be a problem. The actual events of each game remains unchanged regardless of route; It's not like there are branching dialogue trees. No matter which ending you get, it won't really affect how the series plays out, because everything is canon compliant (even bad endings just give the protagonists a chance to try again after failing). A lot of the differences are just dialogue between characters, which isn't something that would become non-canon in different routes (or at least, the information being provided wouldn't stop being true). For example, it'd be completely unreasonable to say "Makai is infinite in these routes because Murasa says it is, but it's not infinite in these routes because she doesn't mention it in her dialogue".

None of the story routes provide contradictory information, either. They just build off each other. IIRC, ZUN has even said that it's impossible to understand the story of some games without playing through every route and getting every ending, so you're actually intended to composite information like this.
 
It won't be a problem. The actual events of each game remains unchanged regardless of route; It's not like there are branching dialogue trees. No matter which ending you get, it won't really affect how the series plays out, because everything is canon compliant (even bad endings just give the protagonists a chance to try again after failing). A lot of the differences are just dialogue between characters, which isn't something that would become non-canon in different routes (or at least, the information being provided wouldn't stop being true). For example, it'd be completely unreasonable to say "Makai is infinite in these routes because Murasa says it is, but it's not infinite in these routes because she doesn't mention it in her dialogue".

None of the story routes provide contradictory information, either. They just build off each other. IIRC, ZUN has even said that it's impossible to understand the story of some games without playing through every route and getting every ending, so you're actually intended to composite information like this.
oh well, thanks, it just left me wondering if these 2 statements about UFO and LoLK made several routes not canon.
 
I've been working on Marisa's profile and came to the realization that I should probably index all her miscellaneous items she has on screen for like 5 seconds. So uh, if anybody here can think of any examples of literally any notable item she's ever owned, send it to me so I don't have to reread literally the entire series.
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I've been working on Marisa's profile and came to the realization that I should probably index all her miscellaneous items she has on screen for like 5 seconds. So uh, if anybody here can think of any examples of literally any notable item she's ever owned, send it to me so I don't have to reread literally the entire series.
That thing from the vol 2 or 3 omake in FS? also what is the Choker?
 
I don't know which thing you're talking about, could you give more context?
I think it was from FS chapter 37.5 but I don't remember what it was, alsoo whaat!? Scan about what ZUN said? i remember seeing on other wikis versus that marisa supposedly had a weakness to cold, now i see that doesn't make sense anymore lol
 
um.. this scan doesn't work
God fucking damn it. This ALWAYS happens with imgur links, even when it's never done this before. Having to go back and replace every imgur scan, and somehow find a way to make image albums work, is gonna suck.
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speaking of haxes, could Yukari, Reimu, Satori and Nue get supernatural willpower by withstanding the pressure of manipulate boundaries?
Nothing would suggest it's a matter of willpower, I always treated it as durability since the pressure is more like a physical pressure.
 
God fucking damn it. This ALWAYS happens with imgur links, even when it's never done this before. Having to go back and replace every imgur scan, and somehow find a way to make image albums work, is gonna suck.
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Nothing would suggest it's a matter of willpower, I always treated it as durability since the pressure is more like a physical pressure.
I posted the wrong scan💀
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It was supposed to be this one.

EDIT: Yeah, I'm liking how the youkai justification reworks are coming along.
 
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you know
Yoshika on her page has immunity to soul manip for lacking a soul
with youkai incorporeality, I wonder if she's qualified for NEP nature 1 aspect 1
ehhhhh
Souls in Touhou are very complicated. There are two types - Spirit (which is what we currently index and applies to phantoms and temperament/spiritual power) and Living Spirits (basically the vulgar spirits in TD or dream selves). I'm not sure which one Yoshika lacks, or how a dual system like this would work with NEP.
 
I was trying the Terraria Touhou pet mod, and I was in an intense boss fight, I was at low health, so I panicked and tried to enter a cave to escape, but then Koishi backstabbed me and killed me when I entered a place without any lights. I could have won, but she screwed me over. I am angry.
 
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