Touhou Discussion Thread 3 ⌈Eternal Fantasy Edition⌋

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

wdym with societal norms? and the disdain of authority? Alsoo, about the multiple perspectives, Being SIMPLE minded is one of Reimu traits? I think that's something explicit and quite noticeable in WaHH, to the point where it could be considered a weakness in their profile

Societal norms as in how people normally act and what's expected of them in society; Reimu often ignores that and just does her own thing. A good example is when she asks the owner of a pet rabbit why they haven't cooked and eaten it yet; That's not socially acceptable, of course, but Reimu either doesn't know or doesn't care.

The disdain for authority thing mainly stems from SoPM, where she openly states how anyone who makes the rules is innately corrupt, only writing rules in a way that'd benefit themselves. You could also gather this from the spell card rules, which Reimu helped establish, which make it so the weak are able to hold their ow against the strong and prevent any one person from gaining too much power via ritualized combat.

Reimu isn't simpleminded. She can be a bit clueless or reckless at times, but she's legitimately very intelligent. IIRC, her official profile in CDS outright calls her a genius. Forbidden Scrollery is also where she gets to show off her knowledge on youkai combined with her intuition, meaning it has a lot of decent intelligence feats for her (she has a couple of good intelligence feats scattered across various other sources as well).

 

[Topaz404]

Ya know, i wonder how Seija doesnt at least have some form of Social Influencing in her profile. It would take a good bit of charisma to be able to convince Shimmy, along with several other youkai, to buy into your plan that you conceived just to be an absolute prick and chaos lover

Thats just me, however

 

[Deidalius]

Pixel scaling if it was good:

Oh, yeah, the English translation of chapter 48 of LE came out (Damn, I already read that many chapters without noticing, I usually struggle to even read 15 manga chapters).
Slice of life. In short, kino.

 

[Deidalius]

Disregard that calculation from the translator entirely. I have been informed that the average Japanese women is in fact, not the same height as me (5'7") but rather, it is 5' and 2.8". Hisami might not be 2 heads taller than me. Bummer.

 

[Shmooply]

Messed up stuff.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Pixel scaling if it was good:

Oh, yeah, the English translation of chapter 48 of LE came out (Damn, I already read that many chapters without noticing, I usually struggle to even read 15 manga chapters).
Slice of life. In short, kino.

Extreme height difference Zanhisa is canon......... ZUN hath truly blessed me on this day..........

 

[Shmooply]

Six feet tall Hisami is real... we won...

 

[Deidalius]

(His calcs are wrong because the translator assumed Zamnu has the height of an average human which includes average men around the world rather than use Zamnu has the height of an average Japanese woman. Just by eye-ing thr calcs, Hisami should probably be just around the height of an average Japanese man which is small for Americans)
I mean, Hisami is a tall queen. The tall queen of grapes.

 

[Shmooply]

Riddle me this Buttman... how tall is she with that taken into account then...

 

[StrymULTRA]

Riddle me this Buttman... how tall is she with that taken into account then...

Given that Hisami is 2 heads taller than Zanmu, and a head is 1/8 of the full height, Hisami would be 10/8 times Hisami's height, or x1.25.

 

[Deidalius]

Given that Hisami is 2 heads taller than Zanmu, and a head is 1/8 of the full height, Hisami would be 10/8 times Hisami's height, or x1.25.

So like, around more than 1.9 meters?

 

[StrymULTRA]

So like, around more than 1.9 meters?

158.5 * 1.25 = 198.125 cm

So yes.

 

[Shmooply]

So she's still six feet, we are so back...

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

158.5 * 1.25 = 198.125 cm

So yes.

6'5"?? i think i hauve covid

 

[Deidalius]

I have been told another theory.

What if Hisami isn't very tall, but rather, average in height or just slightly above average and Zamnu is just a midget.

Is there anything to support the Zamnu midget theory?

I played through TH19 but I don't remember thinking too deeply about Zamnu's height since it's hard to imagine the true height of someone who is not standing up.

 

[Shmooply]

Considering Gensokyo's history, I do wonder if the modern village folk have gotten taller, of if they're the same height as the average man and woman during Feudal Japan.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Considering Gensokyo's history, I do wonder if the modern village folk have gotten taller, of if they're the same height as the average man and woman during Feudal Japan.

Reminder that Marisa is barely 1.3 m tall. So I guess they didn't get any taller (not that Modern Japan got that taller either).

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Reminder that Marisa is barely 1.3 m tall. So I guess they didn't get any taller (not that Modern Japan got that taller either).

[Citation needed]

 

[StrymULTRA]

[Citation needed]

You know well the vid I'm referencing lmao

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Messed up stuff.

What happened to Deadman and what is his current status/state?

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

You know well the vid I'm referencing lmao

I do not.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I do not.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

That thumbnail/username combo is like one of those tropical frogs that are covered in bright colors so you know they're poisonous.

 

[Deidalius]

I tested this Terraria mod, it's kino. It has pretty much all the characters I like.
You can even do this.

(Ignore Rinnosuke and my outfit, they're from another Touhou mod)

It has Koishi, in short, kino, go download.
(Also, Terraria right now is on a limited time discount on Steam. Only 5 USD, go buy it. The mod loader can also be downloaded from Steam and modding is supported by the devs)

 

[Topaz404]

What did Rinnosuke do to deserve that?
also how do you have the entire SDM as a pet? what item do you need?

 

[Deidalius]

What did Rinnosuke do to deserve that?

You're right, I should have at least given him a roof, windows, walls and heating. I'll do that RN.

also how do you have the entire SDM as a pet? what item do you need?

You can use the Recipe browser mod to know the recipe for certain items. I cheated that item in because I was merely testing the mod. Without cheats, you have to kill the Brain of Cthulhu or the Devourer of worlds, Queen slime and King slime. The other items don't have a recipe. Maybe they're obtained from a merchant? From a chest? By fishing? Either way, when you combine them, you can summon the SDM cast.

Also, a nice detail I noticed is that Flandre and Remilia use umbrellas during the day.

 

[Deidalius]

I tried to make a quick doodle GIf but since I pirated Asesprite I couldn't save anything. So I just took a photo.

Switch the images around repeatedly for the full GIF experience.

 

[SomeJJJJ]

hey guys Akyuu is dying this year

 

[Deidalius]

hey guys Akyuu is dying this year

Death to a named girl in Touhou? Unlikely. ZUN will probably find a way to justify her staying alive.

I am so confident that Akyuu or any named girl won't die for a long time that I'll make a video kneeling to ZUN-sama if he actually does.

So yeah, all 3 Akyuu fans have nothing to be sad about.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Seems as though Ultima's proposed tiering revision will pass soon. I'd like to remind you all that, despite the potentiality of Touhou getting 1-A off of this, we should all wait on pursuing any upgrades.

 

[Topaz404]

Seems as though Ultima's proposed tiering revision will pass soon. I'd like to remind you all that, despite the potentiality of Touhou getting 1-A off of this, we should all wait on pursuing any upgrades.

The wait is going to be absolutely worth when Unicron gets shitstomped by Yukari

(Yukari is literally going to be able to solo most of fiction)

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

The rhetoric of "Touhou will solo xyz after the revisions" is starting to get a little grating to be honest (although I'm partly to blame for that). I'd ask that you all temper your expectations, at least for the initial batch of threads.

 

[MeidoIzayoi]

Wriggle Nightbug solo tbh

 

[Topaz404]

The rhetoric of "Touhou will solo xyz after the revisions" is starting to get a little grating to be honest (although I'm partly to blame for that). I'd ask that you all temper your expectations, at least for the initial batch of threads.

To be fair, im expecting to see a lot of verses benefit from the Tier 1 changes as well, and also, this.....also wont help with the stigma of Touhou be considered wanked. But im still excited, more matches open up!

 

[StrymULTRA]

The rhetoric of "Touhou will solo xyz after the revisions" is starting to get a little grating to be honest (although I'm partly to blame for that). I'd ask that you all temper your expectations, at least for the initial batch of threads.

Touhou will get even more fake fans after the Tier 1 stuff, be ready.

 

[Topaz404]

I cant wait for the storm of people trying to content revision Touhou back down after it gets Tier 1, oh thats going to be a funny shitstorm to witness

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

To be fair, im expecting to see a lot of verses benefit from the Tier 1 changes as well, and also, this.....also wont help with the stigma of Touhou be considered wanked. But im still excited, more matches open up!

I think people are overexaggerating just how many verses will qualify. Legitimate R > F is already quite difficult to qualify for, and it seems as though the standards are going to become far more stringent in order to accommodate just how massive of a jump R > F is. I think the people claiming to have not just one, but two or even three verses all qualifying for 1-A will be in for a rude awakening not long from now, and I believe the overall success rate of such upgrades is going to be far lower than most are anticipating.

Also, my previous comment was in a more general sense, not just in regards to tiering. I will have to get the boring laundry lists of ability additions out of the way first before moving on to verse mechanics and the like. For example -

I'm sure this isn't the kind of exciting, meta-defining material you were hoping for, but it's a necessary step in the revisions nonetheless.

Touhou will get even more fake fans after the Tier 1 stuff, be ready.

This community is already rife with racists and lolicons. Powerscalers are practically saints relative to the fake Touhou fans that already exist.

 

[Topaz404]

Oh hey, Medicine is getting some love. Ya like to see it
But eh well. Im just here to witness shit go down. Peanut gallery, basically

And now i shall vanish

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

I cant wait for the storm of people trying to content revision Touhou back down after it gets Tier 1, oh thats going to be a funny shitstorm to witness

I'm not all that concerned. The people who attempt to downgrade Touhou are those who lack any understanding of the source material; I can go back and look at any of Saikou's attempted "debunks" of my points and make a very strong case that he has never read the series beyond a handful of fan wiki entries. They would have to argue not on the basis of what canon material exists that supports their points (because if it exists, they haven't seen it), but on an interpretation of the wiki's rules, which is an inherently disadvantageous position against someone who knows both the wiki's rules and the source material inside and out (ie; Me).

Of course, getting the revision passed in the first place is a different story entirely.

 

[Topaz404]

Well yeah, this all assumes it passes anyways, but i'd like to see it anyways

(Also the "debunks" for Infinite speed were laughable dear god what were they smoking)