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Touhou Discussion Thread 3 ⌈Eternal Fantasy Edition⌋

Deidalius said:
Nuh-uh. Anyways.
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Yeah you lost me, i don't appreciated this kind of respond at all
Deidalius said:
A little bit unrelated but you Touhou fans in general are very complacent with anything ZUN does. Almost as if y'all put him on a pedestal above criticism.
Absolutely anything is fine as long as there is a new girl to play with for several months.
Touhou fans are nearly as bad as gacha players.
It makes me wonder what will be the amount of bad quality of the Kusoge coming straight from ZUN's anus y'all will eat before y'all start complaining.
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This is why i really dislike your behaviour sometimes
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
Well I personally wouldn't be here if I didn't like Touhou, so if you're not enjoying the series (and it really looks like you don't, at all), then maybe just leave?
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It's not that easy, I've considered leaving, but I do enjoy several aspects of Touhou and its fandom. Most of my friends like Touhou, so I'll feel left out if I stop keeping up, and Touhou has influenced my identity and me a lot.
Kisaragi_Megumi said:
Yeah you lost me, i don't appreciated this kind of respond at all
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My apologies, that was rude of me. I meant to say that I dissagree, but I lost interest in continuing to argue.
Kisaragi_Megumi said:
This is why i really dislike your behaviour sometimes
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ok
 
my house been broken into by twinks, what do i do please help
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Anyways the first of (hopefully many) Comtpiq issue has arrived, here's a compilation of all the notable stuff for Genso Narratograph. There's also an author interview but that's all text lol, I'll post the translated version or a TL;DR here later.
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Sukusukus are now roleplaying...
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I don't wanna get too ahead of myself but Genso Narratograph is shaping up to be really interesting VS-wise. There's a really fucking funny social influencing feat in here that I wanna include more than anything.
 
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I rewrote Touhou's discussion rule to make it more readable.
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This rule came from https://vsbattles.com/threads/touhou-discussion-rule-proposal.133744/ at https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?diff=7530837&oldid=7530825. As it stands, I find it quite clumsily written and unsourced, so I've rewritten it.
*Do not try to downgrade the characters' speed ratings from FTL levels based on [[Marisa Kirisame]]'s claim that nothing can move faster than light, as this statement is unreliable due to [[vsforum:threads/133744|contradicting explicit evidence]] shown in the series. Not only does Marisa outrun her lightspeed Master Spark shortly afterward, but characters like [[Sakuya Izayoi]] have direct FTL statements, and numerous other characters have [[User blog:Saikou The Lewd King/Touhou Explanation#Lightspeed and beyond speed feats|consistent FTL and higher feats]].
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@Theglassman12 @CrimsonStarFallen Should I apply this rewrite?
 
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IdiosyncraticLawyer said:
I rewrote Touhou's discussion rule to make it more readable.

This rule came from https://vsbattles.com/threads/touhou-discussion-rule-proposal.133744/ at https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?diff=7530837&oldid=7530825. As it stands, I find it quite clumsily written and unsourced, so I've rewritten it.

@Theglassman12 @CrimsonStarFallen Should I apply this rewrite?
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Yeah the old rule is pretty bad, I think the rewrite looks fine.

I wouldn't bother with Glass and @CrimsonStarFallen though, they're not that into Touhou.
 
I've been asking this everywhere else, but who here would be interested in an officially translated version of Genso Narratograph? There's a possibility of getting it translated, but the first step is making sure there's enough interest.
 
IdiosyncraticLawyer said:
I rewrote Touhou's discussion rule to make it more readable.

This rule came from https://vsbattles.com/threads/touhou-discussion-rule-proposal.133744/ at https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?diff=7530837&oldid=7530825. As it stands, I find it quite clumsily written and unsourced, so I've rewritten it.

@Theglassman12 @CrimsonStarFallen Should I apply this rewrite?
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I don't really see anything wrong with the old phrasing of the rule, but adjusting the rule to cite the thread in which the rule was first decided on sounds like a good idea. I'd support this.
 
DarkGrath said:
I don't really see anything wrong with the old phrasing of the rule, but adjusting the rule to cite the thread in which the rule was first decided on sounds like a good idea. I'd support this.
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Thank you. I have applied my changes.
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VS Battles Wiki is a site where the members attempt to index the statistics of characters across different fictional franchises. These efforts lead to much discussion about certain feats, statements and calculations regarding their validity, reliability, etc. However, certain topics keep popping...
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I mean, previously I only thought he was involved with the location descriptions, character dialogue, and replay, but it turns out he was a writing assistant for the whole damn thing. That's leagues beyond what any "canon adjacent" game gets, and really messes with the idea that we can only use what ZUN wrote (since he had at least some small part in basically the entire thing).
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Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
What do you mean? If this is about VS stuff, then 1. I don't care and 2. I'm already using a WoG statement from the book to upgrade Nitori's calc slightly (6.5 megatons to 16.3 megatons).
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Technically vsbw stuff, but other than that not entirely as i'm more curious about what is this game going to tell about lel
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
I mean, previously I only thought he was involved with the location descriptions, character dialogue, and replay, but it turns out he was a writing assistant for the whole damn thing. That's leagues beyond what any "canon adjacent" game gets, and really messes with the idea that we can only use what ZUN wrote (since he had at least some small part in basically the entire thing).
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Okay so there's a good chance I jumped the gun on this LOL
 
Genso Narratograph is almost definitely getting a translation at some point. Seems like there's a fair bit of support in favor of it getting an official translation, and it seems like someone has already been translating parts of it. So, hopefully that'll all happen soon (ideally before Touhoufest 2024), but it might be a while since this is a 300+ page TTRPG manual we're talking about here.
 
"Guys! I couldn't believe that Fate/Type-Moon has finally added Hieda no Akyuu on their series!"
Meanwhile Hieda no Akyuu that i mean:
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JK, they finally added the man who inspired Akyuu on Fate, and it's glorious
One of his Noble Phantasm is literally Reverse Gensokyo lmao
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
Genso Narratograph is almost definitely getting a translation at some point. Seems like there's a fair bit of support in favor of it getting an official translation, and it seems like someone has already been translating parts of it. So, hopefully that'll all happen soon (ideally before Touhoufest 2024), but it might be a while since this is a 300+ page TTRPG manual we're talking about here.
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How the RPG mechanic of GN works?
 
Kisaragi_Megumi said:
"Guys! I couldn't believe that Fate/Type-Moon has finally added Hieda no Akyuu on their series!"
Meanwhile Hieda no Akyuu that i mean:
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JK, they finally added the man who inspired Akyuu on Fate, and it's glorious
One of his Noble Phantasm is literally Reverse Gensokyo lmao
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How is it a reverse Gensokyo? What does it do?
 
Alright, the 2023 Touhou popularity poll results are in.



Marisa has taken first place, her first win in 18 years. Good for her. Youmu has notably fallen even further from #1 since 2021 (she's still not beating the allegations).



The last three places have held steady, nothing too notable (Mokou will break top 5 one day, mark my words).



As for the newcomers, Hisami is the most popular by a huge margin, and is actually more popular than a lot of more well established characters. That's the power of lesbianism in action, although we'll have to see if she holds steady next year. Funnily enough, ZUN seemed confident that Hisami would be the least popular newcomer, which is odd considering Touhou and yuri are basically synonyms at this point. Hisami is also the 6th most popular character with women this year, which should be completely unsurprising given she's probably very relatable to female Touhou fans (myself included).

The full results can be found here. Keine, Eirin, and Saki deserved better tbh
 
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