Top strongest One Piece characters 2 (spoilers)

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Where is chestless Gaimon?

 

[Godernet]

too strong to make the list fair, that's why God Ussop and Buggy D. Clown are off the list too.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Updated list is fine but Idk why people like BB and Akainu are over Luffy rn

 

[Godernet]

Updated list is fine but Idk why people like BB and Akainu are over Luffy rn

Akainu gets a lot of gas from Oda so I fully expect him to be relevant in the conversation with Prime Garp for the strongest Marine in history by the end of the series, not to mention his "highest Attack power" devil fruit and the eventuality of us needing to see a Logia Awakening.

BB is still kind of an enigma, his feats so far don't fully line up with how people talk about him, Shanks sees him as a major threat, and Marco calls his body different from normal people to the point where he believes that could justify him having 2 devil fruits when that's literally impossible for anyone else from what we've seen.

plus they're both potential end-game opponents for Luffy or Sabo/Dragon in Akainu's case, so I can't see them being below Current Luffy. That could change with time tho.

 

[SlendVeny]

Threw this together off the top of my head might be forgetting somSpruce.

I'm betting u got this, don't fail me.

Strongest OP Characters List(all time)
1). Joyboy/Nika(could be 2)
2). Imu(could be 1)

I would recommend switching these

3). Rocks D. Xebec(could be 4,5, or 6)
4). Whitebeard(could be 3, 5, or 6)
5). Roger(could be 3,4, or 6)

Roger > WB

6). Garp(could be 3, 4, or 6)
7). Ryuma(could be much higher, waiting to see the pay off for Black Blades tbh)
8). Kaido(could be 9 or 10)
9). Mihawk(could be at least 8, possibly much higher depending on Black Blade tax.)

Mihawk > Kaidou

10). Shanks(could be 8 or 9)

Shanks > Kaidou

11). Sengoku(could be much higher, near Garp just has less combat statements as an individual than Garp)

Sengoku > Garp

12). Shiki(could be much higher, near Roger and his rivals but has fewer showings/statements than the other rivals. and no confirmed Conq Haki)

Shiki >= Roger

13). Dragon(Could be much higher and comparable to a prime Garp but needs to do literally anything.)

Dragon > Admiral tiers

14). Rayleigh(could be higher or potentially as low as 15.)
15). Akainu(Could be much higher depending on his post-time skip showings.)
16). Big Mom(could be a bit higher)
17). BB (could be much higher depending on when and how he scarred Shanks and what exactly makes his body "built different" like Marco said.)
18). Luffy (could be higher, a young Top Tier who needs more showings, barely beat a Kaido who got jumped)

Luffy > BM

19). Aokiji (could be a bit higher, stalemated Akainu but we need to see the fight tbh, also Logia Awakening Tax might hit)
20). Kizaru (could be a bit higher, Logia Awakening Tax could hit)
21). Oden (fine where he is, had insane potential, could be elevated by future Zoro feats if Zoro keeps comparing himself to Oden while using Enma.)

I disagree with Oden being this high.

 

[Godernet]

I'm betting u got this, don't fail me.

I would recommend switching these

I mean maybe, I feel like with Oda's general theme of freedom he would have it where Imu could never really beat Joyboy but due to some immortality outlived him and worked from the shadows to prevent Joyboys return and help the WG subjugate the world. But that's just my view I could end up being wrong.

Roger > WB

maybe but WB is the world's strongest man and the man that can destroy the world. I give him a bit more combat credibility for this but Roger could end up stronger tho.

Mihawk > Kaidou

Maybe but I need more Mihawk feats. Kaido's lore makes him out to be the top of the verse for a long time, the strongest pirate, the strongest creature, "only Joy Boy could beat him", I can't see Kaido being so nihilistic and bored of his strength if an infamous pirate out there was stronger than him and there's no way he hadn't heard of Mihawk.

Shanks > Kaidou

ehh same as with Mihawk but I think Mihawk has a much better chance of being stronger than Kaido.

Sengoku > Garp

Garp has too many direct statements of his combat prowess. Sengoku is known more as the tactician and someone that could rival them compared to Garp who's known as someone who could almost kill Roger on several occasions.

Shiki >= Roger

ngl I didn't know people thought Shiki was above Roger. you're gonna have to explain that one.

Dragon > Admiral tiers

I mean I still have him above all the current admirals. Prime Garp and Prime Sengoku is more debatable. He also currently has the least amount of feats from the god tiers. Bros is solely being carried by his lineage's clout rn.

Luffy > BM

debatable

I disagree with Oden being this high.

who not on the list would you put above Oden?

 

[SlendVeny]

I mean maybe, I feel like with Oda's general theme of freedom he would have it where Imu could never really beat Joyboy but due to some weird immortality outlived him and worked from the shadows to prevent Joyboys return and help the WG subjugate the world. But that's just my view it could end up being different.

Oh, that'd be dope as hell actually.

Garp has too many direct statements of his combat prowess. Sengoku is known more as the tactician and someone that could rival them compared to Garp who's known as someone who's almost killed Roger on several occasions.

Old Garp < Old Sengoku, so I acale their primes similarly.

ngl I didn't know people thought Shiki was above Roger. you're gonna have to explain that one.

I just think he might be, since his fleet, which has no known members with any decent power level, was going to beat Roger's, and he fought both Garp and Sengoku while suffering from Steering Wheel Syndrome.

who not on the list would you put above Oden?

If I speak, I may die, but En-O Santoryu Zoro is listed as stronger.

 

[Sus]

Maybe but I need more Mihawk feats. Kaido's lore makes him out to be the top of the verse for a long time, the strongest pirate, the strongest creature, "only Joy Boy could beat him", I can't see Kaido being so nihilistic and bored of his strength if an infamous pirate out there was stronger than him and there's no way he hadn't heard of Mihawk.

EXACTLY

 

[Godernet]

Old Garp < Old Sengoku, so I acale their primes similarly.

wait how is Old Garp weaker than Old Sengoku? Garp's still on active duty.

I just think he might be, since his fleet, which has no known members with any decent power level, was going to beat Roger's, and he fought both Garp and Sengoku while suffering from Steering Wheel Syndrome.

fair enough I guess

If I speak, I may die, but En-O Santoryu Zoro is listed as stronger.

I mean if Zoro could sustain Enma indefinitely now I would agree they're at least equal but if anything, for now, I see it as Oden >= En-O Santoryu Zoro.

 

[Sus]

there's no evidence that old sengoku > old garp

 

[SlendVeny]

wait how is Old Garp weaker than Old Sengoku? Garp's still on active duty.

He was holding him down with one limb in base form.

fair enough I guess

I mean if Zoro could sustain Enma indefinitely now I would agree they're at least equal but if anything, for now, I see it as Oden >= En-O Santoryu Zoro.

En-O > Enma Unleashed = Oden, yeah?

 

[Sus]

En-O > Enma Unleashed = Oden, yeah?

in ap only
and zoro can only do 3 attacks before passing out

 

[SlendVeny]

in ap only
and zoro can only do 3 attacks before passing out

Oh shoot. Well, I will bet that Zoro is going to surpass Oden soon(His Haki is better)

 

[Sus]

if zoro can master enma then yeah

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Lucci's only feat is getting he ass beat.

You don't need proof to say wrong, you need proof to say right. Unless the first person included evidence.

Yes.

I do.

You can be stated as equal and still be stronger. What's next, are all the Yonkos equal? Is Kaidou = to Oldbeard?

I mean, if he was getting stomped, why would they need 2 people?

Offscreen. He could've done anything.

Law nearly killed him, but Augur saved him.

2-Sword Zoro.

This is a pretty good point, but I disagree with the 2nd part.

He also got he ass handed to him by a few normal hits, and needed some of his best Rokushiki to dodge an attack.

That just isn't true.

But what you said took us no where because you gave no reasons.

You aren't funny.

No you can't because that is contradictory. And no the yonko's aren't equal, they are comparable which is true.

Who said they needed to be 2? There just happen to be 2 people there. What, do you expect sengoku to just stand there because garp can handle shiki high difficulty or jump him together and immediately neutralize him?

According to what marco said, they couldn't overcome him anymore and they stood no chance.

That's not what happened at all. Law didn't come close to killing mom with a shock wille yet he did as much damage to teach as he did to her. Besides teach was literally fine afterwards.

So what if it was two sword zoro?

Yes lucci was stomped but still has feats from the fight. Akainu should take his place.

 

[SlendVeny]

That just isn't true.

Kinda is tbh. His other feats are contradictory to his later showings.

But what you said took us no where because you gave no reasons.

It's how Burden of Proof works. You had something on there(positive claim), I said I disagreed(negative claim), and you asked me to prove why the negative was true.

You aren't funny.

Alright.

No you can't because that is contradictory. And no the yonko's aren't equal, they are comparable which is true.

All right. I suppose Roger was probably sick when he fought Shiki.

Who said they needed to be 2? There just happen to be 2 people there. What, do you expect sengoku to just stand there because garp can handle shiki high difficulty or jump him together and immediately neutralize him?

I guess that's fair.

According to what marco said, they couldn't overcome him anymore and they stood no chance.

Him specifically?

That's not what happened at all. Law didn't come close to killing mom with a shock wille yet he did as much damage to teach as he did to her. Besides teach was literally fine afterwards.

I mean, Law and Kid had to work together to beat BM, so I'm not thinking this is a fair comparison. The "fine afterwards" might be good.

So what if it was two sword zoro?

2 is one less than 3.

Yes lucci was stomped but still has feats from the fight. Akainu should take his place.

His feats are punching a rock with his buso arm and briefly clashing with Luffy(inconsistent with him getting decked later)

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Kinda is tbh. His other feats are contradictory to his later showings.

His feats are punching a rock with his buso arm and briefly clashing with Luffy(inconsistent with him getting decked later)

Alright you guys are massively downplaying lucci, the punch he matched was a regular armament punch and he was able to take a mole pistol which negates durability and hits organs, it's also possible the luffy was using emission.
The punch that took lucci out was luffy bolting at him with high speed and winding up and attack that negates durability and hits the organs, also possibly using emission. And despite that lucci was momentarily knocked out and stood up fine.

Him specifically?

Actually yes.

I mean, Law and Kid had to work together to beat BM, so I'm not thinking this is a fair comparison.

I'm comparing how big mom took the hit to how teach took the hit which is almost identical.

2 is one less than 3.

That is usually only relevant when he is doing a named attack using all three swords. It's not like zoro magically gets stronger when holding a sword in his mouth.

 

[SlendVeny]

Alright you guys are massively downplaying lucci, the punch he matched was a regular armament punch and he was able to take a mole pistol which negates durability and hits organs, it's also possible the luffy was using emission.
The punch that took lucci out was luffy bolting at him with high speed and winding up and attack that negates durability and hits the organs, also possibly using emission. And despite that lucci was momentarily knocked out and stood up fine.

I agree with this for now, waiting to see what monkeman says.

Actually yes.

Oh, spectacular, then.

I'm comparing how big mom took the hit to how teach took the hit which is almost identical.

Alright, I'll call that good for now.

That is usually only relevant when he is doing a named attack using all three swords. It's not like zoro magically gets stronger when holding a sword in his mouth.

He gets stronger when attacking with all 3 swords.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Alright you guys are massively downplaying lucci, the punch he matched was a regular armament punch and he was able to take a mole pistol which negates durability and hits organs, it's also possible the luffy was using emission.
The punch that took lucci out was luffy bolting at him with high speed and winding up and attack that negates durability and hits the organs, also possibly using emission. And despite that lucci was momentarily knocked out and stood up fine.

Y'all comparing Lucci to high-god tiers but he can't even take a dura neg attack?
Akainu took 2 shockwave punches from a very pissed, albeit nerfed Sickbeard, and despite bleeding profusely he stayed conscious and kept fighting his Commanders.
If Lucci can't at least endure hits like that then he's trash.

 

[Sus]

luffy wasnt using emission

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Y'all comparing Lucci to high-god tiers but he can't even take a dura neg attack?
Akainu took 2 shockwave punches from a very pissed, albeit nerfed Sickbeard, and despite bleeding profusely he stayed conscious and kept fighting his Commanders.
If Lucci can't at least endure hits like that then he's trash.

Kaido, akainu and whitebeard are all stamina monsters. Lucci losing consciousness from getting punched in the vital organs isn't an anti feat of strength, it's actually an endurance feat for the characters who can. This doesn't make lucci weak at all.
That's great and all until you realize that lucci got up directly afterwards and was fine. He even started fighting the seraphims alongside luffy. Also he did actually tank a durability negating hit from Luffy.

 

[Sus]

lucci got up directly afterwards and was fine.

he wasnt fine

He even started fighting the seraphims alongside luffy

after resting

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

he wasnt fine

after resting

He was fine and walking around.
His organs are not going to fix themselves after sleeping for a few minutes.

 

[Sus]

He was fine and walking around.
His organs are not going to fix themselves after sleeping for a few minutes.

you do know.... zoan have regeneration

 

[Kachon123]

Sanji is top 15

 

[Eminiteable]

Sanji is top 15

Alive or all time

 

[Kachon123]

Alive or all time

All time. He's top 10 currently.

 

[Sus]

fr or joking

 

[Eminiteable]

All time. He's top 10 currently.

1. Mihawk
2. Shanks
3. Blackbeard
4. Akainu
5. Luffy
6. Garp
7. Kuzan
8. Kizaru
9. Sabo
10. Beckman
11. Zoro
12. Sanji
13. Aramaki
14. Rayleigh
15. King

Sanji above Beckman now I guess

 

[Kachon123]

Yes. In between Sabo and Kizaru

 

[Eminiteable]

Yes. In between Sabo and Kizaru

Zoro replacing Kuzan at number 7 then.

 

[Kachon123]

Zoro replacing Kuzan at number 7 then.

Zoro is right below Sabo.

 

[Sus]

And no the yonko's aren't equal, they are comparable which is true.

does it make a differnce? at the end of the day a fight 2 yonkos will always be 50/50

 

[Fireld]

Ain't Benny relative to Shanks?

 

[Sus]

Ain't Benny relative to Shanks?

they say so but i never saw a statement

 

[Fireld]

Checked his page lately? It's linked there now.

 

[Sus]

wasnt linked when i checked last time (4 years ago)

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

you do know.... zoan have regeneration

Since when? Ancient zoans are the ones with high recovery.

 

[Fireld]

wasnt linked when i checked last time (4 years ago)

Good for you

Since when? Ancient zoans are the ones with high recovery.

And awakened zoans too since Impel Down.

 

[SlendVeny]

Since when? Ancient zoans are the ones with high recovery.

Awakened too