Tier High 6-A The Battle of the Beast Tournament (2023): Yun Seong vs Heatblast

[DemonicDude]

By the way his speed amps if they are not his first move then HB can just transform himself into a smoke monster or just levitate to dodge

Yun just dodges.

HB can fly, Yun can not.

What would Heatblast do then?

Try to lure Yun to come closer since Close Quarters Combat Yun's fighting style then restrian him via higher LS

Isn't speed equalized, though?

intangibility goes bbr with Toon force

It's just an image. Can you pull up a clip of him doing it pls?

I already did above

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We can see all this in this video: (2:02 Timestamp)

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[RandomGuy2345]

HB can fly, Yun can not.

What does HB knowing to fly have to with Yun simply dodging attacks coming out of a cannon?

Try to lure Yun to come closer since Close Quarters Combat Yun's fighting style then restrian him via higher LS

Yun can't come closer since HB is several meters high into the sky. Yun will just have to anticipate HB's next attack.

intangibility goes bbr with Toon force

What does that have to do with speed being equalized?

I already did above

Yeah, looking at the clip, this requires HB to actually hit Yun with that frying pan. This isn't just a simple touch with his fire like you said before.

 

[DemonicDude]

What does HB knowing to fly have to with Yun simply dodging attacks coming out of a cannon?

He can do the same so at best they both cancel each other out like a said before if Yun doesn't instantly Speed blitz and Opens the battle with blitzings then this gives Heatblast the chance to use his Toon force powers and change his physiology and thus he won't be harmed for the rest of the fight for....as long as he wants

Yun can't come closer since HB is several meters high into the sky. Yun will just have to anticipate HB's next attack.

And Heatblast likes abusing his powers in forms so he'll just make a Pain Train and keeps dropping them from the sky.

Yeah, looking at the clip, this requires HB to actually hit Yun with that frying pan. This isn't just a simple touch with his fire like you said before.

I'll respond later I need a break

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Yun doesn't instantly Speed blitz and Opens the battle with blitzings then this gives Heatblast the chance to use his Toon force powers and change his physiology and thus he won't be harmed for the rest of the fight for....as long as he wants

Qing Long's special effect only works when Yun is weakened, but considering HB's versatility and range advantages, I don't think it will take an awfully long time at all in order for it to kick in.

Also, is it really IC for HB to do something like change his physiology so he can't be harmed at all for an extremely long time period?

 

[DemonicDude]

Also, is it really IC for HB to do something like change his physiology so he can't be harmed at all for an extremely long time period?

He wants to become just like his favorite childhood character XINGO and that's why he channels his inner "XINGGY" style which is basically him abusing Toon Force so yeah.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

He wants to become just like his favorite childhood character XINGO and that's why he channels his inner "XINGGY" style which is basically him abusing Toon Force so yeah.

That's a... pretty vague reason as to why he'd do that.

 

[DemonicDude]

That's a... pretty vague reason as to why he'd do that.

He did that in the clip because to defeat XINGO and was clearing having fun exploring his new powers, He'll go as far as his creativity leads too. He should just wish and transform himself into anything he wants really never mind changing his appearance.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

He did that in the clip because to defeat XINGO and was clearing having fun exploring his new powers, He'll go as far as his creativity leads too. He should just wish and transform himself into anything he wants really never mind changing his appearance.

But is it IC for HB to stay in a form that makes him impossible to harm for as long as possible against someone who doesn't use Toon Force-like powers?

 

[DemonicDude]

But is it IC for HB to stay in a form that makes him impossible to harm for as long as possible against someone who doesn't use Toon Force-like powers?

I was thinking the same whether it's IC for Yun to open with Speed blitz, It really depends he likes using his toon force and does random things in his Xinggy style making him unpredictble I'll comment more tomorrow.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I was thinking the same whether it's IC for Yun to open with Speed blitz, It really depends he likes using his toon force and does random things in his Xinggy style making him unpredictble I'll comment more tomorrow.

I already clarified before that Yun's stats (which include speed) will be increased when he's weakened. It's a passive stat amplification.

 

[DemonicDude]

I already clarified before that Yun's stats (which include speed) will be increased when he's weakened. It's a passive stat amplification.

This should not be able to defeat Ben because he has already defeated Stats Amped users. He has Supernatural Willpower.
Feats:

• Stayed awake for 24 hours. To him justice never sleeps, and he saved the day numerous times, dubbing this as Ben 24.
• Broke free from the illusion world of Zombozo by concentrating enough.
• Defeated High Override and overcame his mind control (Who was amplified by the entire Fulmini army)

 

[RandomGuy2345]

This should not be able to defeat Ben because he has already defeated Stats Amped users. He has Supernatural Willpower.
Feats:

• Stayed awake for 24 hours. To him justice never sleeps, and he saved the day numerous times, dubbing this as Ben 24.
• Broke free from the illusion world of Zombozo by concentrating enough.
• Defeated High Override and overcame his mind control (Who was amplified by the entire Fulmini army)

None of these feats you listed here have anything to do with overcoming speed disadvantages.

 

[DemonicDude]

None of these feats you listed here have anything to do with overcoming speed disadvantages.

It's supposed to deal with Healing factor that Yu posseses, I'd like to think that HB via restriction should be able to finish Yun off before he get's enough speed amp to the point HB can't hit him.

 

[DemonicDude]

Unless stated or unless he has feats to back it up, I don't see why heatblast's heat would scale to the star he lives on.

how a Pyronite’s temperature can be lower than his environment after prolonged exposure ?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It's supposed to deal with Healing factor that Yu posseses

Speaking of that...

Some of Yun's swords help him heal his health.

• Cheng Ying (Automatically Guard Impacts some attacks, and recovers health when successfully Guard Impacting. Can barely be seen during dusk and dawn. Makes it difficult for an enemy to block, but vice versa for the wielder)
• Ramdao (Some counters will have no effect. Recover health every time you attack)

Cheng Ying automatically Guard Impacts some attacks, and Cheng Ying recovers Yun's health when he successfully Guard Impacts his opponents. This is actually really good for Yun because this would actually make him hard to hit prior to the speed amps he'd get once he's weakened.

Ramdao is a bit more simple in the fact that it recovers Yun's health every time he attacks.

 

[Kachon123]

how a Pyronite’s temperature can be lower than his environment after prolonged exposure ?

What does being a Pyronite have to do with anything?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

@Kachon123 do you have an opinion on this fight?

 

[Kachon123]

No, not yet at least

 

[Aachintya31]

What does being a Pyronite have to do with anything?

Pyronite is heatblast's species name
It's so obvious we as humans have a higher body temperature than the average temperature of surface of earth., so why does heatblast being atleast comparable to the temperature of the star he lives doesn't make sense?

 

[Kachon123]

Pyronite is heatblast's species name

Yeah I know.

 

[Kachon123]

It's so obvious we as humans have a higher body temperature than the average temperature of surface of earth., so why does heatblast being atleast comparable to the temperature of the star he lives doesn't make sense?

Humans can't shoot fire so this is a terrible example.

Heatblast's heat. resistance can scale to the Star's heat, but the actual fire he shoots doesn't until proven otherwise.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Humans can't shoot fire so this is a terrible example.

Heatblast's heat. resistance can scale to the Star's heat, but the actual fire he shoots doesn't until proven otherwise.

The feats DD has shown for Heatblast's heat/fire manip are nowhere near his level of resistance, but it's still better than Yun's heat resistance with the Dragon Sword, though this isn't the end all be all for the fight.

 

[Reiner04]

Wrong description btw.

How you starts the fight btw?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

How you starts the fight btw?

You mean how Yun starts his fights?

 

[Reiner04]

You mean how Yun starts his fights?

Yes

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Yes

He basically does CQC the entire fight.

 

[DemonicDude]

So he needs to get closer and hit with his sword, That's where HB can make fire weapons and use them to restrict him via higher LS.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So he needs to get closer and hit with his sword, That's where HB can make fire weapons and use them to restrict him via higher LS.

And what's stopping Yun from simply dodging?

 

[Reiner04]

He basically does CQC the entire fight.

Sorry if I am asking smth obvious but what is CQC?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Sorry if I am asking smth obvious but what is CQC?

Close Quarters Combat.

 

[Reiner04]

Close Quarters Combat.

I see, it's quite opposite of what HB does, does he have any wincon?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I see, it's quite opposite of what HB does, does he have any wincon?

It's pretty late where I live, so I'll sort some shit out when I wake up.

 

[DemonicDude]

I see, it's quite opposite of what HB does, does he have any wincon?

I have a question can Lifting Strength send people flying if the said user is an Element user like Fire or ice in this case Heatblast cause if that's the case Yun may not even get a chance for CQC because Heatblast can generate a massive Fire Tornado and throw him away via that. (Fire Tornado Generation) ?

 

[Reiner04]

I have a question can Lifting Strength send people flying if the said user is an Element user like Fire or ice in this case Heatblast cause if that's the case Yun may not even get a chance for CQC because Heatblast can generate a massive Fire Tornado and throw him away via that. (Fire Tornado Generation) ?

Hmm seems reasonable. I don't know if you will be able to dodge fire tornadoes

 

[DemonicDude]

Hmm seems reasonable. I don't know if you will be able to dodge fire tornadoes

The reason why I'm saying that is cause in Avatar the last Airbender cartoon people with bending can throw away other via higher LS so the same should be here with fire (When it comes to pushing back "force")

 

[Reiner04]

The reason why I'm saying that is cause in Avatar the last Airbender cartoon people with bending can throw away other via higher LS so the same should be here with fire (When it comes to pushing back "force")

Sure. I don't think there is anything wrong with this but then again, I don't know if yun have a answer to it, so I'll wait for @RandomGuy2345 or @Kachon123

 

[DemonicDude]

There's also the fact that there is no actual value for potency of heat for Yun meanwhile Heatblast is unbothered withing on an active volcano (Plus this is just him with his normal heat powers he can amplify his heat) so that's probably higher than (2,200 degrees Fahrenheit)

It's been days this ALL better end tonight.

 

[Kachon123]

There's also the fact that there is no actual value for potency of heat for Yun meanwhile Heatblast is unbothered withing on an active volcano

This is the same situation as the Star. Why would his heat scale to the volcano? That's a heat resistance feat, not a heat feat.

 

[DemonicDude]

This is the same situation as the Star. Why would his heat scale to the volcano? That's a heat resistance feat, not a heat feat.

Backup Evidence:
Heatblast specie's can go Supernova level temperature.
(In the original show)

According to the creator of the show Reboot aliens power and abilities works the same.
(He doesn't need to learn to get angry in this case to reach Supernova temperatures)

 

[DemonicDude]

Backup Evidence:
Heatblast specie's can go Supernova level temperature.
(In the original show)

According to the creator of the show Reboot aliens power and abilities works the same.
(He doesn't need to learn to get angry in this case to reach Supernova temperatures)

By the way this is not even my Wincon I'm just waiting for random to respond.....