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i mean using the astral projectionhow is it out of character to regen?
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i mean using the astral projectionhow is it out of character to regen?
there are like TOO much messages, see that of Snookb or Monkeyman or Monkeyoflifehow would using his toon abilities help?
dw I'll just read earlier commentsthere are like TOO much messages, see that of Snookb or Monkeyman or Monkeyoflife
i am too tired to do that
true but rubberizing the psychic barrier around mob isn't going to let him beat Mob's insane regen.Luffy turning things to rubber negates their durability. It's how he was bypassing Kaido's durability with Gear 5 by literally stretching him, hitting his organs and letting them bounce back.
fairAlso does not work. Luffy got hit with raw ass gravity from FUjitora who can yoink meteorites contributing like 98% of the energy on top of the earth's GBE and Luffy literally didn't act like he felt it. Gravity isn't folding a rubber man. We see him literally warp and nearly liquify into Kaido's Kanabo during their fight to the point of his body losing solidity almost, and he's still fine a panel after.
this is assuming the fight lasts as long as the 10 hr Katakuri fight which it won't because Mob's bloodlusted and a ridiculous amount of things had to go right for Luffy to even survive Katakuri long enough to evolve. Besides we've seen Mob clear 10x gaps in his fight with Toichiro, in a way shorter fight than Luffy vs Kat.His empowerment takes let him cover a Gear 2/Gear 3/Gear 4 gap during ONE FIGHT when he was fighting Katakuri, all in base. Gear 4 alone has a x4 gap, 2 and 3 unspecified.
Luffy can foresee the TK and perception-blitz Mob.
He won't have seconds. the second the fight starts Mob tries to kill him.If he sees it coming like 10 seconds beforehand and his amps involve THINKING THEM, yes he can. Mob's intent is practically rendering him a snail to Luffy who's G2, Soru and 4 amps are all blitzes.
Luffy's future sight can foresee entire sequences of actions and conversations several seconds into the future, not just a moment beforehand. By the time Mob's thinking of doing it Luffy would've figured that out already.
TrueIt negates it's durability and allows Luffy's fist to burrow through basically. That's the entire point of rubberizing targets as you can see here, here, here and here. He doesn't rubberize and bounce off, he rubberizes and KEEPS GOING through until he tags the target.
Ryou won't be anymore effective than normal punches with his regen..Also he has Ryuou, which effectively extends an extra range and detonates internal within targets. Even if the barrier somehow manages to stop Luffy's fist, his Ryuou (which is intangible) just goes through and inside Mob.
I don't think ??? Mob is gonna keep reforming and letting that happen. Also, G5 does have its stamina limits. Saying he'll just keep coming back until he wins is definitely a NLF. Even if you said G5 could last the entire duration of his fight with Kaido he would still eventually run out of stamina.Tire him out by constantly blowing his organs apart with Ryou.
Outlast him because Gear 5 can keep restarting/resurrecting so long as Luffy's body is intact and Mob has no means of blowing him apart because of his rubber body
frying his brain, possessing him, holding him in place and suffocating him, stretching his body so far out that his head rips off(prob won't happen in G5)Not a single non-cutting attack Mob uses is hurting Luffy.
Luffy's barriers are weaker and Mobs would just spawn around his body.Luffy also has thought based barrier emissions that even if by a miracle MOB catches him with LS, he'd create to fend off anything thrown his way that isn't intangible.
he literally has Majin Buu lvl's of immortality and regen and people are just ignoring thatWhy is someone with that kind of regen in the Tournament anyway? Nobody without murder-hax can kill him and Murder-hax was considered a big nono lmfao
Isn't that only for his Astral Projection?he literally has Majin Buu lvl's of immortality and regen and people are just ignoring that
Lucifero:Why is someone with that kind of regen in the Tournament anyway? Nobody without murder-hax can kill him and Murder-hax was considered a big nono lmfao
He shouldn't have been in anyway, he was below the AP margin lolLucifero:
True that.Why is someone with that kind of regen in the Tournament anyway? Nobody without murder-hax can kill him and Murder-hax was considered a big nono lmfao
sign that this tournament was millimetrically calculatedHe shouldn't have been in anyway, he was below the AP margin lol
now that I look at it his profile some more it also says "Should scale above powerful spirits like Dimple, who could come back from raw energy and molecules"Isn't that only for his Astral Projection?
Tires him out regardless. Luffy can last 12 hours+ and restart at full power with G5's restoration/ressurection.true but rubberizing the psychic barrier around mob isn't going to let him beat Mob's insane regen.
Fair. Luffy has better physical stamina and more lastingness on screen iirc. Idk if Mob's Astral form can last him half as long as we've seen Luffy do.I don't think ??? Mob is gonna keep reforming and letting that happen. Also, G5 does have its stamina limits. Saying he'll just keep coming back until he wins is definitely a NLF. Even if you said G5 could last the entire duration of his fight with Kaido he would still eventually run out of stamina.
Elaboratefrying his brain
Last I recall Luffy got possessed by 100 SHADOWS and whereas 2/3 at most break a man, Luffy kept his will/consciousness and sense of self just fine. Mob might get ejected trying via Luffy's haki/willpower.possessing him, holding him in place and suffocating him
Vivre card literally confirms Luffy can grow infinite Luffy's in size so idk about that.. And Shigeo has to stretch him out dozens and dozens of kilometers regardless, which his range doesn't allow.stretching his body so far out that his head rips off
Luffy's barriers ARE his body. Busoshoku Emission seems like a barrier that's a layer above his haki, but can be extended. Unless Shigeo spawns hugging him then no.Luffy's barriers are weaker and Mobs would just spawn around his body.
Godernet is misunderstanding it entirely.Why is someone with that kind of regen in the Tournament anyway? Nobody without murder-hax can kill him and Murder-hax was considered a big nono lmfao
In all fairness.cutting attacks that can one-shot an opponent who scales to 5.5x Luffy's Value
Fair, but remember that if the initial restrain lands Mob can just keep attacking.In all fairness.
Luffy scales massively above the value he actually has. Scabbards who could pierce Kaido scale to his value's durability and they get one shot by Kaifu, which Luffy tanks several times, and takes an amped version of in G5 with only minor cuts.
Slicing him isn't as easy. Especially not when he can amp his durability against slashes with busoshoku as well.
thisSolidly speaking, the wincons for Mob and Luffy respectively are
Mob: Thought based restrain that spawns on Luffy followed by cycling through his damaging types of TK into cutting attacks that can one-shot an opponent who scales to 5.5x Luffy's Value
Luffy: precog into thought based blitz amp to dodge Mob's initial thought based TK restrain and then pummeling him with dura neg attacks.
if he had high regen all the time, Mob wouldn't be there in the first placeit's actually funny my brain didn't register on his profile the:
In his astral state he has...
I do think he should scale to that regen in ??? but that's not on his profile so we can't use it. definitely makes this a lot more fair.
he definitely has a higher base regen than what his profile lists but that's a CRT for a different day.if he had high regen all the time, Mob wouldn't be there in the first place
I mean, he has a neck doesn't heSlicing him gets countered by Luffy's regeneration, Kaidou's Kaifu's were literally going through Luffy's limbs and he regenerated just fine afterwards.
G5 has weird physics where his body parts can seemingly de-attach, so by timing it right Luffy can probably just avoid it. Like we see that happen with his face and iirc he even does it with his head at some point.I mean, he has a neck doesn't he
Super Zoan regen.Fair, but remember that if the initial restrain lands Mob can just keep attacking.
Mob: Thought based restrain that spawns on Luffy followed by cycling through his damaging types of TK into cutting attacks that can one-shot an opponent who scales to 5.5x Luffy's Value
Luffy: precog into thought based blitz amp to dodge Mob's initial thought based TK restrain and then pummeling him with dura neg attacks. >>>
>>can rubberize Mob's barriers and hit him through and with them. Subjective reality allows him to manipulate the matter of said barriers as well (based on turning flames/smoke to goggles), barrier creation and durability amps via busoshoku and emission. Environmental transmutation that can bounce back Mob's attacks
Neck armamentI mean, he has a neck doesn't he
I mean, he has a neck doesn't he
No, but Luffy has both mind reading and can see ghosts and stuff like that too, so he most likely canI don't remember but can people see Mob's psychic energy?
Apoo's abilities are sound based.Because the last time Luffy tried to fight someone whose abilities were ranged and invisible was Apoo and he got knocked out.
he would not be able to read ??? Mob's mind through all the psychic mental blocks.No, but Luffy has both mind reading and can see ghosts and stuff like that too, so he most likely can
Mob's TK is also spawning on you when he intends to attack. its not a projectile.Apoo's abilities are sound based.
If you hear it, you get tagged. It's not the speed of sound, it's just instantaneously spawning as you hear it.
Mob's are still projected energies, so kenbun can see them