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Heyo everyone!

It's me again! I told ya'll there was more to come, and I meant it.

So, uhhh, this is basically the next installment in my profile improvement project, and it revolves around the Sharingan's P&As, Resistances, and weaknesses.
Technically, most of these abilities and resistances are already on the profiles, but I made significant improvements to the justifications (most of the abilities had little to no justifications, so yeah), added scans, references, and detailed weaknesses for everything.

Once accepted, I'll update all Sharingan user's profiles with these improvements. I guess I could also add these improved justifications and details to the Sharingan page, cause god almighty, does that thing need it.....

Anyway, without further delay, here is my proposal:


Of course let me know if I've messed up on any of these, or if there are any improvements I could make.

Let's discuss!

P.S: I'm going to make a Genjutsu potency blog very soon, propose it in a CRT, and add it to the verse page once it's accepted. I say that just so if the potency of certain genjutsu isn't entirely apparent from the above sandbox, it'll definitely be made clear in that blog. So no worries! (The blog won't just be for Sharingan Genjutsu, btw)
 
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It's like you find the stuff that's irrelevant but relevant at the same time. I never thought I'd need this.
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The Sharigan has so much BS so the Uchiha clan can cheat on exams
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1st 2nd and 3rd tomoe should get Minor Awakened Power. Like Awakened Power's definition is literally the Sharingan's definition.
A sudden burst of power triggered by sheer determination or a powerful emotion.
And the Sharingan gets amps by emotion of power.

Next to Enhanced Senses, give it Extrasensory Perception as the Sharingan can see chakra like you listed and it gives it minor precog, or Analytical Prediction like you said.
Make the Astral Projection Minor. People will think that this is something like Dan's ghost jutsu and ignore the explanation you gave.
Minor Light Manipulation. The Sharingan shines in the dark.

Make it known that the Sharingan has a weakness to its Power Mimicry and can't copy Kekkei Genkai, or techniques brought about strictly by DNA.
Also make it known that the Sharingan can't see through thick mist or large amounts of dust. Those need to be specified, not just any mist or dust can be seen through.

Other than that, there's nothing (else) I really disagree with.

Personally, I think it'd be best to make a big Dojutsu page, and link specific dojutsu to others (like how we do the Haki page), but I can't really force somebody to make a huge ass page like that when that's way too much work to request off of just a suggestion.

So good job, you get an agreeal form me. Lmk if there's anything I suggested that you disagreed with.
 
It's like you find the stuff that's irrelevant but relevant at the same time. I never thought I'd need this.
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Blame Alex 😭
1st 2nd and 3rd tomoe should get Minor Awakened Power. Like Awakened Power's definition is literally the Sharingan's definition.

And the Sharingan gets amps by emotion of power.
Oh shit, yeah. Great suggestion. I'll add it.
Next to Enhanced Senses, give it Extrasensory Perception as the Sharingan can see chakra like you listed
Seeing invisible energies isn't ESP anymore, unfortunately. It's just Enhanced Senses.
and it gives it minor precog, or Analytical Prediction like you said.
Yup.
Make the Astral Projection Minor. People will think that this is something like Dan's ghost jutsu and ignore the explanation you gave.
Fair, good idea.
Minor Light Manipulation. The Sharingan shines in the dark.
Good eye, I'll add it.
Make it known that the Sharingan has a weakness to its Power Mimicry and can't copy Kekkei Genkai, or techniques brought about strictly by DNA.
I already mentioned that in the weakness section. Is it not clear enough? If so I can try to improve it.
Also make it known that the Sharingan can't see through thick mist or large amounts of dust. Those need to be specified, not just any mist or dust can be seen through.
I added the scan, but I guess I didn't specify this, so I will.
Other than that, there's nothing (else) I really disagree with.
Perfect. Thank you for the suggestions and the evaluation!
Personally, I think it'd be best to make a big Dojutsu page, and link specific dojutsu to others (like how we do the Haki page), but I can't really force somebody to make a huge ass page like that when that's way too much work to request off of just a suggestion.
I'd need to think about it. Personally I like having the abilities in the profiles, but I'm not completely opposed to the idea.
The amount of work isn't much of an issue. I already did the Sharingan and Rinnegan, only the Byakugan remains.
So good job, you get an agreeal form me. Lmk if there's anything I suggested that you disagreed with.
Thanks again!
 
Seeing invisible energies isn't ESP anymore, unfortunately. It's just Enhanced Senses.
Whaaaaaaaaa
Damn
I already mentioned that in the weakness section. Is it not clear enough? If so I can try to improve it.
Ngl I didn't see the weakness section
That's fine
I added the scan, but I guess I didn't specify this, so I will.
Gotcha
Perfect. Thank you for the suggestions and the evaluation!
Yeah no problem
I'd need to think about it. Personally I like having the abilities in the profiles, but I'm not completely opposed to the idea.
The amount of work isn't much of an issue. I already did the Sharingan and Rinnegan, only the Byakugan remains.
Fuegolego
Thanks again!
Anytime
 
This is very very good... very well done Slayer

You forgot about the goat Shin Uchiha. Also would Sarada have the same Tomoe 2 and 3 Sharingan P&A? (Because for Tomoe 2 I saw that you said basically just Pt1 Sasuke)
 
This is very very good... very well done Slayer
Thanks
You forgot about the goat Shin Uchiha.
Uhhhhhhh.........
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He's irrelevant
Also would Sarada have the same Tomoe 2 and 3 Sharingan P&A? (Because for Tomoe 2 I saw that you said basically just Pt1 Sasuke)
Yeah, she'd have em. I think she gets genjutsu as well, in the anime version, unlike Sasuke.
 
I've yet to reread Naruto but your page is so well documented, formatted, and presented that I don't feel my lack of in verse knowledge limits by ability to comment here. To which I say great job, everything makes sense to me nothing seems in need of removal. Here we have, ladies and gentlemen, a quirked up white boy, goated with the sauce.

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I've yet to reread Naruto but your page is so well documented, formatted, and presented that I don't feel my lack of in verse knowledge limits by ability to comment here. To which I say great job, everything makes sense to me nothing seems in need of removal. Here we have, ladies and gentlemen, a quirked up white boy, goated with the sauce.

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@KingTempest I added everything we discussed to the page. I added Awakened Power, Minor Light Manip, added Minor to Astral Projection, expanded the weakness with your suggestions, and generally added more justifications here and there. Is it good to go now?

@Nierre I added Shin Uchiha's MS abilities.
 
I slightly improved the formatting of the sandbox. Should make readability much better now.
 
Looks good to me.

I hope the formatting of whatever Dojutsu / Sharingan page there is ends up like this. The bullet points and bolding of abilities really enhances it.
Yeah, any pages I make will follow this format. It's really clean.
Also thanks for the evaluation.
 
Disagree
Why?
Madara should get all abilities of all Sharingan users to a greater extent cause he is Madara.


Anyway jokes aside, two Tomoe should also get sleep manipulation or mind Manipulation(illusion creation), Sasgay put Sakura to sleep on a bench before becoming a runaway bride naruto had to chase after
 
Disagree
Why?
Madara should get all abilities of all Sharingan users to a greater extent cause he is Madara.
Foddara*
Anyway jokes aside, two Tomoe should also get sleep manipulation or mind Manipulation(illusion creation), Sasgay put Sakura to sleep on a bench before becoming a runaway bride naruto had to chase after
Was it really Sharingan genjutsu? They weren't making eye contact when she fell asleep. I always thought Sasuke just put her to sleep with a neck chop or something.

EDIT: Viz confirms it with the "Tap!" Sound efffect
 
To the 2 Tomoe, these things should probably be added.
  1. Illusion Nullification
  2. Illusion Creation
I only just woke up so I'm too tired to scour fo YT links. But Uchiha Sarada has displayed both abilities several times with a 1 Tomoe sharingan. Ergo her two tomoe by default would possess it too
 
To the 2 Tomoe, these things should probably be added.
  1. Illusion Nullification
  2. Illusion Creation
I only just woke up so I'm too tired to scour fo YT links. But Uchiha Sarada has displayed both abilities several times with a 1 Tomoe sharingan. Ergo her two tomoe by default would possess it too
See, there's an issue with that. I'm aware of her showcasing these in the anime and the movie, but I can't remember them for the manga.
If you have examples from the manga, I'll add them. If not, then she'll just get those exclusively on her anime profile. (whenever it's made)
 
See, there's an issue with that. I'm aware of her showcasing these in the anime and the movie, but I can't remember them for the manga.
If you have examples from the manga, I'll add them. If not, then she'll just get those exclusively on her anime profile. (whenever it's made)
It's a Sharingan Page, shouldn't it be added regardless of whether it's from the manga or not? Since it's pretty much a general page

To the best of my knowledge there's no actual no panel usage of genjustu from her
 
It's a Sharingan Page, shouldn't it be added regardless of whether it's from the manga or not? Since it's pretty much a general page
Technically, this is just intended to overhaul the abilities on the profiles.
If I do make a page, I'll probably add a small sub-section in the "2 Tomoe" part showcasing Sarada's feats.
To the best of my knowledge there's no actual no panel usage of genjustu from her
That's an oof.
 
This is better than ignoring it.
Yeah, for sure.
It turns out we have a Sharingan page anyway, so I might as well improve it, too.
Any more general threads in the works?
Oh yes, plenty. I've got one up right now, in fact.
Many more to come, in my quest to completely fix all the profiles.

On another note, I found Sarada dispelling Genjutsu with her 1 Tomoe Sharingan, so I guess those fools will be getting Illusion Nullification after all.
 
Also I noticed a mistake I made in the sandbox. Ephemeral is technically not a Sharingan genjutsu, so while Itachi will obviously get it, I will not be adding it to the Sharingan page itself.
 
Looks good to me, but I thought the Sharingan could see through walls of smoke? That's kinda what Izuna vs Tobirama implied if I remember correctly. I hear people say that all the time.
Anime only iirc. And I'm pretty sure the mist Zabuza created was noted to be extremely thick, far more than usual, so that's probably why the Sharingan couldn't see through it.
 
Well, I think we're done here, as far as accepting the modified abilities, resistances, and weaknesses is concerned. I've also updated the Sharingan page.

That only leaves us with deciding whether or not to add these changes to the profiles themselves, or to just link the Sharingan page to the affected profiles.

Personally, I like having the abilities fully displayed on each profile, but this is a democracy. It's not up to me alone.

The individual profiles will still get their individual MS abilities either way, though.
 
Rinnegan superior, Sharingan inferior...!

I agree with OP's stated because he is too fast for making this thread before they can do anything except Alexander the King HST of Revision.

Can I rest in peace thanks to US96 who made this.
 
Well, I think we're done here, as far as accepting the modified abilities, resistances, and weaknesses is concerned. I've also updated the Sharingan page.

That only leaves us with deciding whether or not to add these changes to the profiles themselves, or to just link the Sharingan page to the affected profiles.

Personally, I like having the abilities fully displayed on each profile, but this is a democracy. It's not up to me alone.

The individual profiles will still get their individual MS abilities either way, though.
Bump.

We still need to decide on this before this thread is concluded.
 
Would it not be easier to simply link the Sharingan page? And say something like for say, under resistances, “Resistances granted by blah Sharingan”.
 
Would it not be easier to simply link the Sharingan page? And say something like for say, under resistances, “Resistances granted by blah Sharingan”.
Not every Sharingan user knows how to use all of the Sharingan's various abilities though.
 
Not every Sharingan user knows how to use all of the Sharingan's various abilities though.
Well yeah but couldn’t we mark it by what “tier” they are, don’t OP profiles do this with Haki, “Proficient Haki user” or sumn like that?
 
Well yeah but couldn’t we mark it by what “tier” they are, don’t OP profiles do this with Haki, “Proficient Haki user” or sumn like that?
Kinda, but switch "tier" and proficiency with "Tomoe".
All 3 Tomoe users we have profiles for are masterful top tier Uchiha who have maximized their proficiency. We don't have profiles for middling or Average Uchiha since they're all dEd

Still, the "individual abilities" and Mangekyō abilities I've added to the page would likely need to be added to the profiles.
 
Well yeah but couldn’t we mark it by what “tier” they are, don’t OP profiles do this with Haki, “Proficient Haki user” or sumn like that?
Not the same

Haki has abilities used just by being activated. It's like passive reiatsu abilities. Like its mechanics are "use this, use that, use those".

Sharingan abilities need to be trained in specific areas to be used in those areas, something that not every sharingan user has. It's not as free as Haki, as even though every Sharingan user is capable of doing those techniques, they just... don't.
 
Sharingan abilities need to be trained in specific areas to be used in those areas, something that not every sharingan user has. It's not as free as Haki, as even though every Sharingan user is capable of doing those techniques, they just... don't
That's not quite how it is, either.
Training doesn't help them acquire the abilities. It just helps them acquire proficiency and skill. As far we know, the abilities are acquired as soon as the Sharingan's awakened, much like their MS abilities and Sasuke's improved precognition.

I think the Susano'o is a good way to think about it. Every MS users that has awakened both of their eyes' abilities has it, but they evolve its stages and gain proficiency with it through usage which is an L because using it a lot makes them go blind, but shhhhhhh

The examples I used were also extremely varied between users and/or generalized statements for the Sharingan to prove that they all have said abilities. That's why I didn't settle for one or two examples for each thing, and went all out in that regard.

Either way, yeah, not quite like Haki.
 
That's not quite how it is, either.
Training doesn't help them acquire the abilities. It just helps them acquire proficiency and skill. As far we know, the abilities are acquired as soon as the Sharingan's awakened, much like their MS abilities and Sasuke's improved precognition.

I think the Susano'o is a good way to think about it. Every MS users that has awakened both of their eyes' abilities has it, but they evolve its stages and gain proficiency with it through usage which is an L because using it a lot makes them go blind, but shhhhhhh
No you're right, I know that training doesn't help them acquire the abilities.

I mean that training allows them to actually use the abilities in general.
Like Sasuke fresh off of gaining the MS didn't know how to use its abilities. He was using new abilities fight after fight.

Do they have those abilities? Yes. Do they know how to use it? Not really, which is the issue with adding them
 
No you're right, I know that training doesn't help them acquire the abilities.

I mean that training allows them to actually use the abilities in general.
Like Sasuke fresh off of gaining the MS didn't know how to use its abilities. He was using new abilities fight after fight.

Do they have those abilities? Yes. Do they know how to use it? Not really, which is the issue with adding them
You're gonna have to be more specific about this. What abilities should they not have exactly?

The Mangekyō abilities are individual abilities that are exclusive to those who showed them, so you're obviously not talking about those.

The Sharingan's visual enhancements, copying abilities, chakra vision, precog, etc etc are either general abilities derived through generalized statements and/or have been shown by multiple users (including those as inexperienced as 2 tomoe Sasuke and freshly awakened 3 tomoe Sasuke)

Genjutsu has been shown by all of em, every single one.

The issue here is that we only have profiles for the absolute top of the line Uchiha clansmen. Like, the best ones in history.
And even inferior ones who only transplanted the Sharingan have shown many of these abilities.

I think they all should get all the general abilities I listed.
 
that's fine then looking at the specific uchiha

specific uchiha like pt 1 3 tomoe sasuke shouldn't have stuff like genjutsu reflection or even genjutsu in general since he hasn't been good enough with his sharingan like his later versions.

not saying he's not capable of using them, just saying that he isn't skilled enough with it to use it like his later self
 
that's fine then looking at the specific uchiha

specific uchiha like pt 1 3 tomoe sasuke shouldn't have stuff like genjutsu reflection or even genjutsu in general since he hasn't been good enough with his sharingan like his later versions.

not saying he's not capable of using them, just saying that he isn't skilled enough with it to use it like his later self
That's completely fine, I wasn't planning to give it to him anyway.

Basically, my plan was just to give him the 2 tomoe stuff, and then give him the buffed precog for his Retrieval/3 tomoe key.
 
Anda harus lebih spesifik tentang ini. Kemampuan apa yang seharusnya tidak mereka miliki?

Kemampuan Mangekyo adalah kemampuan individu yang eksklusif untuk mereka yang menunjukkannya, jadi Anda jelas tidak membicarakannya.

Peningkatan visual Sharingan, kemampuan menyalin, penglihatan chakra, precog, dll. Adalah kemampuan umum yang diturunkan melalui pernyataan umum dan/atau telah ditunjukkan oleh banyak pengguna (termasuk yang belum berpengalaman seperti 2 tomoe Sasuke dan 3 tomoe Sasuke yang baru terbangun)

Genjutsu telah ditunjukkan oleh mereka semua, setiap orang.

Masalahnya di sini adalah bahwa kami hanya memiliki profil untuk klan Uchiha teratas. Seperti, yang terbaik dalam sejarah.
Dan bahkan mereka yang lebih rendah yang hanya mentransplantasikan Sharingan telah menunjukkan banyak dari kemampuan ini.

I think they all should get all the general abilities I listed.
I agree with you, about this
 
Everything looks fine to me, but I do think for the Three Tomo Sharingan, it shouldn't relist all of the old explanations with the newly added stuff. Instead, it should just say, previous abilities enhanced (Explanation for what is enhanced and how) then the new powers/abilities listed out as normal.
 
Now that I'm looking at it, Awakened Power is wrong.
With the examples, it's like a random temporary burst in stats, which the sharingan is not. It's like the conscious version of Rage Power.

Sharingan should possibly get Empowerment instead, since it's empowered via emotions. Doesn't seem to be anything like a temporary amp.

Sorry for the misunderstanding
 
Now that I'm looking at it, Awakened Power is wrong.
With the examples, it's like a random temporary burst in stats, which the sharingan is not. It's like the conscious version of Rage Power.

Sharingan should possibly get Empowerment instead, since it's empowered via emotions. Doesn't seem to be anything like a temporary amp.

Sorry for the misunderstanding
Looking through both pages, yeah, Empowerment is more fitting. They get empowered via negative emotions like hatred, grief, loss, and anger, so yeah.

I'll make the changes, and no worries, I missed it too.
 
Everything looks fine to me, but I do think for the Three Tomo Sharingan, it shouldn't relist all of the old explanations with the newly added stuff. Instead, it should just say, previous abilities enhanced (Explanation for what is enhanced and how) then the new powers/abilities listed out as normal.
I agree with this, it’d make the page a bit more concise.
 
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