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I'll count the votes once ShadowWarrior1999 made the CRT, and you guys continued debating!
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The Last Dragonborn vs. Beerus
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Frankly, the hax win escalation is so extreme. That I'm voting for dovakin. Either beerus is ooc and wins or dova makes quick work/keeps beerus off his feet.
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Beerus is OOC? What?
The literal only instances where Beerus doesn't Hakai straight up in battles is when he actively doesn't want to kill the opponent. The moment he found Zamasu as a threat, his ass is just gone.
That and he doesn't want to erase everything.
The literal only instances where Beerus doesn't Hakai straight up in battles is when he actively doesn't want to kill the opponent. The moment he found Zamasu as a threat, his ass is just gone.
That and he doesn't want to erase everything.
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Inconclusive for Warren Valion's arguements. This really is a matter of "who uses their hax first".
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"The literally only instances"
Akreious, please. Zamasu wasn't a threat the moment Beerus was there when he showed his true colors, he just couldn't careless for him and there's no reason to let him stay around as a ghost, the ghost was annoying him and Goku was saying something Beerus would have killed him for if he could. Dovahkiin is none of those things and is actually a potential fun match for the extremely bored Beerus.
I remain skeptical about him Hakai-ing soon into the match.
Akreious, please. Zamasu wasn't a threat the moment Beerus was there when he showed his true colors, he just couldn't careless for him and there's no reason to let him stay around as a ghost, the ghost was annoying him and Goku was saying something Beerus would have killed him for if he could. Dovahkiin is none of those things and is actually a potential fun match for the extremely bored Beerus.
I remain skeptical about him Hakai-ing soon into the match.
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Beerus could have just blasted Goku or Zamasu with a stray Ki blast if he didn't care about how he killed them.
But he didn't, he defaulted to the Hakai because it's his signature attack - that's the most logical assumption, not your headcanon of, " Well, 'there's no reason to keep him around as a ghost' so I guess I better use Hakai".
You are warping the events to fit your narrative because of your skepticism.
As I said, if he views the Dovahkiin as an annoyance, or a threat to himself and/or the universe, then he is very likely to use the Hakai.
And that is a very possible conclusion to make in this matchup with a guy whose voice can slow down time, breathe fire and ice, make himself ethereal, et cetera.
But he didn't, he defaulted to the Hakai because it's his signature attack - that's the most logical assumption, not your headcanon of, " Well, 'there's no reason to keep him around as a ghost' so I guess I better use Hakai".
You are warping the events to fit your narrative because of your skepticism.
As I said, if he views the Dovahkiin as an annoyance, or a threat to himself and/or the universe, then he is very likely to use the Hakai.
And that is a very possible conclusion to make in this matchup with a guy whose voice can slow down time, breathe fire and ice, make himself ethereal, et cetera.
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Use a DB character with a decent hax + AP advantage, and take away the Elder Scrolls really good weaponry because you can.Mr. Bambu said:
Dragon Ball has been kind on a roll recently.
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@Bambu it's called in character mindsets.
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Plus Dovy doesent have much defensive hax or godly regen
...Dovy vs Monika?
...Dovy vs Monika?
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Its called nerf the haxed dude by restricting his equipment.Mr. Bambu said:
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It's not really a restriction. It's called being a good OP that describes what the DB has. Unless you're saying that every match where the Dragonborn doesn't have every weapon at once is nerfing the Dragonborn.
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Dovahkiin would solo even Zen'o if he had all the Daedric equipments.
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Dovahkiin would solo Zeno while naked and wielding a broom actually.
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What?TacticalNuke002 said:
How?
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By shouting at the little kid to clean his room.
If he has no equipment, he'll obviously use Thu'um.
If he has no equipment, he'll obviously use Thu'um.
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Isn't that physically impossible? There are multiple melee weapons and a shield among them. Even if he had them with him, it's not like he can use them all at once.StarSlayer666 said:
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I'd probably vote Zeno since he uses his Erasure instantly.
Not to mention, you don't know which shout he'll use, it could be Unrelenting Force, which is useless in such a fight.
Not to mention, you don't know which shout he'll use, it could be Unrelenting Force, which is useless in such a fight.
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Useless how? Its still a low 2-C attack that's AP is higher than Goku's presumably.
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Zeno is 2-C.
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I thought we already established that that Dragon Ball characters had the AP advantage?TacticalNuke002 said:
And it doesn't matter. Zeno is 2-C.
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Pretty sure we are derailing right now.
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Yeah, its derailing. Zeno doesn't resist mindhax still.
Btw, I vote for Dovahkiin via conceptual mindhax and other conceptual Shouts.
Btw, I vote for Dovahkiin via conceptual mindhax and other conceptual Shouts.
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1. Zeno instantly nukes his opponent, so the Dovahkiin wouldn't be able to do shit.
2. When was any of the shouts conceptual in nature?
2. When was any of the shouts conceptual in nature?
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Zeno takes some time to raise his arms.
All Shouts are conceptual. The meanings of the three words are implanted on reality and the victim. If he Shouts at you to BE HIS SLAVE, you are conceptually obligated to be his slave.
All Shouts are conceptual. The meanings of the three words are implanted on reality and the victim. If he Shouts at you to BE HIS SLAVE, you are conceptually obligated to be his slave.
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Implanting one's desires upon reality is just reality warping, nothing proves that it is conceptual in nature. It doesn't say anything like that on his page at all.TacticalNuke002 said:
Got proof?
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Implanting one's desires upon reality is just reality warping, nothing proves that it is conceptual in nature. It doesn't say anything like that on his page at all.
Got proof?
Dragonrend imposes the concepts of mortal finite and temporary onto whatever is hit that's why it allows you to kill dragons who are immortal infinite and just kinda always existed
Also the Thu'um is injected your voice into the song of creation by manipulating the tones of the world
Got proof?
Dragonrend imposes the concepts of mortal finite and temporary onto whatever is hit that's why it allows you to kill dragons who are immortal infinite and just kinda always existed
Also the Thu'um is injected your voice into the song of creation by manipulating the tones of the world
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Dragonrend is a very unique shout, how does that compare to other Thu'ums per se?
Is the fire from Breathe Fire conceptual? Is the blast of force from Unrelenting Force conceptual? Et cetera.
What you are saying sounds preposterous without proof.
Again, manipulating reality by implementing one's desire (or voice) in this case, is just reality warping without further proof.
Not to mention, Conceptional Manipulation is not listed anywhere on the Dovahkiin's page.
Is the fire from Breathe Fire conceptual? Is the blast of force from Unrelenting Force conceptual? Et cetera.
What you are saying sounds preposterous without proof.
Again, manipulating reality by implementing one's desire (or voice) in this case, is just reality warping without further proof.
Not to mention, Conceptional Manipulation is not listed anywhere on the Dovahkiin's page.
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You three are very seriously derailing.
Also, pardon me but unless I am forgetting that Core People can't become ghosts, why would Beerus ever want to leave a reminder of Zamasu when he can completely eliminate every last trace of him right there?
Also, pardon me but unless I am forgetting that Core People can't become ghosts, why would Beerus ever want to leave a reminder of Zamasu when he can completely eliminate every last trace of him right there?
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Because killing him normally and sending him to hell would have worked just as fine, he didn't have to Hakai him.
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It's as easy as using the one technique he can easily use and Zamasu will never be a threat, because he doesn't exist anymore so why chance it? Not to mention I don't doubt Beerus wasn't too fond of him after seeing how he really was.
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I mean, he's dead. You can't really be a threat in hell.
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The Dovahkiin profile is not complete totally.
Still, Matthew has done a good job of compilation.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...osophy#Tonal_Magic:_Taking_the_Mantle_of_Myth
Still, Matthew has done a good job of compilation.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...osophy#Tonal_Magic:_Taking_the_Mantle_of_Myth
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Bad people don't get a body to inhabit when they die, IIRC. That's what Piccolo said to Vegeta right before Vegeta did his sacrifice.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
So killing Zamasu via Ki blast, or Hakai is pointless because he still would have been a non-issue. He chose Hakai because he's used to choosing Hakai - it is the signature move of the GoD.
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How is talking about the nature of the powers of one of the fighter in this fight derailing?LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
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> Evil people get no body to inhabit.
>Freeza.
Ummmmmm...
And yes, the signature move of a God he never used in his battle with Goku.
>Freeza.
Ummmmmm...
And yes, the signature move of a God he never used in his battle with Goku.
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I'm pretty sure that "inhabit a body stuff" was all anime filler. The vast majority of scenes in the afterlife are.
I'd also like to mention that Beerus wasn't trying to outright kill Goku, he wanted the challenge of battling Goku as a martial artist. Much like how Freeza could have easily killed Goku if he really wanted to, but he preferred to toy with him instead.
I'd also like to mention that Beerus wasn't trying to outright kill Goku, he wanted the challenge of battling Goku as a martial artist. Much like how Freeza could have easily killed Goku if he really wanted to, but he preferred to toy with him instead.
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Which is my point. Zamasu was an omnicidial maniac, the ghost annoyed him and Goku was saying something he really didn't want him to even try and say.
Those 3 situations vs Beerus finding someone that can give him a nice fight and isn't really even doing anything to truly antagonize him. I don't see Hakai coming first.
Those 3 situations vs Beerus finding someone that can give him a nice fight and isn't really even doing anything to truly antagonize him. I don't see Hakai coming first.
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