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The Hashira vs COC Troops.

YoutubeForKing

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We have the Hashira vs The clash of clans troops (Excluding Yoriichi cause he solos the everyone he one tapped prime muzan.)
Speed is = and we're using the STRONGEST forms. (Meaning they have see through and marks if they had it when they were alive)

Lets start off with the Hashira!

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So first off we have the only 8-C on their team - Tengen - 0.25 (Could be 0.6 as on the KNY page it says the 8-C's scale to this but it list him and gyutaro as at least 8-C.) Tons and class 100 LS

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(They did him dirty with the scaling he's fosho stronger than Shinobu at least)

Then we have the High 8-C's - Mitsuri (Class 100) - Muichiro (Class 5) - 2.4 Tons

After that we got the 8-B - Shinobu (Superhuman) - 70.1 Tons

Then we got all of the 8-A's (From Weakest to strongest) - Giyu (Class 100) - Rengoku (Class 100) - Obanai (Class 5) - Sanemi (Class 100) - Gyomei (Class 100) - 100 tons


Next up We got the Clash of clans units (For this ill just use one of each that their page has)


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So first up we got the 8-B's of the verse who scale to 11 Tons and have class 1. - Barbarians - Archers - Super Minions - Miner (Class 10) - Goblins - Giants (Class 10) - Grand Warden.

Then you have the 8-A's of the verse who all scale to 82 Tons (On the page it says they 1 tap giants and they say a one tap is 7.5x) and have class 10.
- Wizard (Unknown) - Barbarian King - Archer Queen - Golem - Valkyrie - Electro Dragon - Dragon - Royal Champion - P.E.K.K.A.

OP o_o - Builders (Class 10 but only scales to the 8-B's for AP/Dura)

Hashira Advantages
Overall Physical strength goes to the Hashira as they have members with Class 100 and 100 ton AP.

Skill should also go to the Hashira but don't downplay the 8-A's they are all trained warriors and would be able to scrap with the Hashira skill wise.

COC Troop advantages
They have a HUGE number advantage. The Barbarian king is capable of summoning and then boosting 20 barbarians. Archer queen can do the same with archers however she gets the boost as well as 7 seconds of invincibility. By far the most broken would be the builder, he is capable of summoning either 9 8-A P.E.K.K.A.'s or 100 Archers. This would mean that 9 Hashira would have to go up agains either 66 or 157 units (Most of which are fodder to the high tier Hashira)

They Also have Magic abilities with the wizard (Spells, Lightning Spell, Healing Spell, Rage Spell, Freeze Spell, Jump Spell, Clone Spell. Dark Spells, Poison Spell, Earthquake Spell, Haste Spell, Skeleton Spell ) Which could be use to boost unit infantry or wound the enemy. As well as the warden who can heal units passively as long as they aint dead and he can make himself of other units invulnerable to attacks for 8 seconds max.

The disadvantage is that a lot of these towers are stationary or are extremely slow moving.

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What do you guys think [ First to 7 by the way ;) ]

Hahira - 5
COC - 0
Incon - 0
 
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YoutubeForKing said:
Skill isnt gonna get past wizard flashfreezing everything.
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Actually it can, since there would only be one of each, ya just have to sushi the front line and murder the backline.

Also freezing people is OOC for wizard, he tends to spam the living hell out of "fireball"
 
First of all Demon Slayer Corps Uniform protects against "Ice, Fire and Water". After reading the whole post: Shinobu outclasses all the 8B COC Troops in strength 70.1 Tons > 11 Tons, its basically enough for Shinobu to one tap the 8B squad. Shinobu will also take care of the 8A squad since none of them have resistance to poison manipulation. Mitsuri has Preception manipulation and the COC Troops have no resistance to it either, muichiro has regeneration negation and "See-Through-World makes user see directly opponent's muscles, blood flow and movements which allows them to predict their next moves" another advantage for the Hashiras. Giyuu has Power nullification with Lull. Rengoku just outskills everyone on the other side. Obanai has "Transparent World makes his perception of time slow down and makes the user directly see their opponent's muscles, blood flow and movements which allows them to predict their next moves". Sanemi also outskills the other side and the same goes for gyomei.

Lastly almost all hashiras negate regeneration with their swords.

The Hashira one tap the other side.
 
8-B hashira would have to work hard to get around freeze spells and the overly tanky CoC troops who scale one shots above their 37 tons 8-B feats however they'd outskill and poison them eventually. It isn't a one tap since 11 tons is just plain wrong and has been an old rating but it is indeed a skillstomp
 
Arceus0x said:
8-B hashira would have to work hard to get around freeze spells and the overly tanky CoC troops who scale one shots above their 37 tons 8-B feats however they'd outskill and poison them eventually. It isn't a one tap since 11 tons is just plain wrong and has been an old rating but it is indeed a skillstomp
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so what is the new sacling in tons?
 
M_Animefan said:
so what is the new sacling in tons?
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massive scaling chain above 37 tons.

In short
A lvl 1 giant took no damage from a 37 ton feat and max level troops can one-shot the giant and its higher levels. A lvl 1 P.E.K.K.A can one shot a lvl 3 giant who is superior to the average giant and a max lvl P.E.K.K.A can one-shot a lvl 6 giant.

Basically they're so high into 8-B that i am removing 8-A for the sole reason that it is against the rules for them to be 8-A, otherwise they'd be up there.
 
What do you think are the wincons for the Clash of clans fighters.

Also speed is = for the fighters so no one here is really getting blitzed besides the huge guys.

The main thing i see for the CoC fighters is that they have people fighting from everywhere, dragons and minions in the sky, dozens of archers and people who attack from underground.

Also add the fact that the warden can heal those who were poisoned or mutilated would make this 10x harder for the Hashira

I think they would be able to take out at least all of the hashira under 8-A
 
YoutubeForKing said:
What do you think are the wincons for the Clash of clans fighters.

Also speed is = for the fighters so no one here is really getting blitzed besides the huge guys.

The main thing i see for the CoC fighters is that they have people fighting from everywhere, dragons and minions in the sky, dozens of archers and people who attack from underground.

Also add the fact that the warden can heal those who were poisoned or mutilated would make this 10x harder for the Hashira
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Golems can tank the beatings and there is some homing attacks as well (e-dragon's lightning)
 
M_Animefan said:
First of all Demon Slayer Corps Uniform protects against "Ice, Fire and Water". After reading the whole post: Shinobu outclasses all the 8B COC Troops in strength 70.1 Tons > 11 Tons, its basically enough for Shinobu to one tap the 8B squad. Shinobu will also take care of the 8A squad since none of them have resistance to poison manipulation. Mitsuri has Preception manipulation and the COC Troops have no resistance to it either, muichiro has regeneration negation and "See-Through-World makes user see directly opponent's muscles, blood flow and movements which allows them to predict their next moves" another advantage for the Hashiras. Giyuu has Power nullification with Lull. Rengoku just outskills everyone on the other side. Obanai has "Transparent World makes his perception of time slow down and makes the user directly see their opponent's muscles, blood flow and movements which allows them to predict their next moves". Sanemi also outskills the other side and the same goes for gyomei.

Lastly almost all hashiras negate regeneration with their swords.

The Hashira one tap the other side.
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Would the regen negation stop healing abilities from the various support units.
Also the negation only applies to those with red nichirin swords. (Giyu, Obanai, Sanemi, Muichiro and Gyomei)

And shinobu's poison is only effective againts demons, meanwhile the Wizards have spells capable of poisoning these members.
 
YoutubeForKing said:
Would the regen negation stop healing abilities from the various support units.
Also the negation only applies to those with red nichirin swords. (Giyu, Obanai, Sanemi, Muichiro and Gyomei)

And shinobu's poison is only effective againts demons, meanwhile the Wizards have spells capable of poisoning these members.
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Is Shinobu's poison really supposed to just work against demons? It's not like as if it is entirely composed of wisteria and her modifying her body into circulating her body weight worth of wisteria poison is part of her Poison Manipulation Resistance justification which indicates that the poison would work against humans since she herself is one. Considering that the profile also says "against Demons" for her Poison Manipulation this really needs some further clarification.
 
Dude on her page it says that it only works againts demons.
And didn't she say it was made for demons in character i doubt she would make it lethal towards humans.
Also doesn't she have to be absorbed or something for the poison in her body to come into play, she ran out of poison after using a few times on douma so she def would not have enough to poison everyone on this battlefield, even if she does the warden or the wizard would just heal them.
 
YoutubeForKing said:
Dude on her page it says that it only works againts demons.
And didn't she say it was made for demons in character i doubt she would make it lethal towards humans.
Also doesn't she have to be absorbed or something for the poison in her body to come into play, she ran out of poison after using a few times on douma so she def would not have enough to poison everyone on this battlefield, even if she does the warden or the wizard would just heal them.
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That's indeed what her page says which I did point out and it kind of contradicts with what her Poison Resistance justification implies with using her body modification, so that needs to be clarified or fixed in the future.
 
@Nehz_XZX Im confused rn, so can her posion work againts the troops.
I agree with the fact that it might weaken them, but it wont make them melt like it does to the demons thats just too far.
 
YoutubeForKing said:
@Nehz_XZX Im confused rn, so can her posion work againts the troops.
I agree with the fact that it might weaken them, but it wont make them melt like it does to the demons thats just too far.
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Well, the fact that it isn't just wisteria, that there are multiple poison mixtures she can use and that her poison is part of the justification for her Poison Manipulation Resistance would kind of hint towards it working not just on demons, so I'll clear that up in the General Discussion thread for Kimetsu no Yaiba.

By the way, I don't think that it was stated that Shinobu ran out of poison against Doma. There was a bigger focus on the poison not working on Doma and Doma wondered how many more times Shinobu could make poison. Given that nobody was particularly worried about Shinobu in the Infinity Castle she can probably use her poison for a lot more than just a few stabs.
 
Either way this is probably a skill stomp. If a wizard decides to go mayhem he might take out a hashira though, and even though he usually doesn't use transmutation in combat he could and that would be an instant win against any of the hashira.
Overall, unless a wizard manages to pull out a freeze spell, hashira win.

Do note that it will be a whole different story if we have the hashira raid a village
 
YoutubeForKing said:
Would the regen negation stop healing abilities from the various support units.
Also the negation only applies to those with red nichirin swords. (Giyu, Obanai, Sanemi, Muichiro and Gyomei)

And shinobu's poison is only effective againts demons, meanwhile the Wizards have spells capable of poisoning these members.
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Yes I know that full well but shinobus poison manipulation is also effective against humans, she healed Zenitsu who was poisoned by the fifth lower moons brother so her poison will also work the same way.
 
M_Animefan said:
Yes I know that full well but shinobus poison manipulation is also effective against humans, she healed Zenitsu who was poisoned by the fifth lower moons brother so her poison will also work the same way.
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thing is it may be useless against lads like Golem and P.E.K.K.A who are inorganic
 
Hashira wins in my opinion, maybe Giyuu alone is enough, he have bigger AP and can basically null CoC troops magic/power with Dead Calm
 
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