noninho
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Not exactly but it's really quick
It's 100% unless he's severely outsped which won't happen here, imo
It's so ironic he cannot khs despite it, but yeah
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The 23rd Tournament Gets Raided By Beasts: Round 1
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Perhaps in elevation strength this is the case but it has been seen repeatedly that a being with a greater amount of battle power can easily destroy the enhanced attacks of another ki user with a lesser amount of battle power.
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Kaido can't really hit himself with his own strongest attacks lmao. How is he going to hit himself with his own Raime Hakke.
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So I find it even more doubtful that he can actively use it when facing multiple beings that far surpass him in martial ability
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In my opinion, it seems more and more likely that Kaido will lose even with his Haki ability to see the future since it is active instead of passive.
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Sure, they're somehow gonna outspeed the guy who can blitz them no diff.
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Yes, it surpasses them in speed but when it is not restricted.
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Because in his list of skills there was no mention of martial mastery or any kind.
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Because his fighting style isn't a martial artist, but he's a skilled fighter nonetheless. It's like expecting a swordsman to have master martial artist ability.
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And? Kaido doesn't fight with empty hands, he fights with his Kanabo, it doesn't make sense to say that he would outskilled in relation to something that is not part of his combat universe. And it's not like Kaido hasn't defeated martial artists before, he defeated Luffy about 3 times in a row and even killed him by accident.
Fezzih_007
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I doubt even If he sees it coming, he could Dodge.
Mafuba is a AoE attack on the target, that is the size of the arena they in, and Kaido itself is very big so they hitting him with the Mafuba is very likely.
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Yes, I understand that but on the other hand you could also get the "hand-to-hand master" skill or something like that which your skill list doesn't have either. This is why I continue to insist on his low combat ability in martial skill.
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Kaido beat Luffy by higher Stats
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Not to mention that they have confirmed to us that it is an active and not a passive ability to see the future
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Not only that, I would say, but he was actually superior in combat, at some Kaido copied Luffy like it was nothing.
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I don't think it's enough evidence to prove that he was superior to Luffy in intelligence or combat skills.
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Kaido has been a war veteran since he was a child. At another point in the fight, he used the powers of Gear 5 against Luffy himself. In fact, I don't remember a moment where Luffy overcomes Kaido in skill, he at most does speedblitz two or three times in a direct confrontation, but then he is responded to in kind.
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Yes, I understand you. Obviously Kaido has had multiple battles but the thing is that he is still inferior in martial skills to the Z warriors.
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Can we stop talking about skill? Cuz it's just like not a factor. It is literally the one of the least meaningful aspects, so it's weird to have a dick measuring contest about it.
Are there any Z fighter wincons? Or is this a character just got upgraded let's give him some dragon ball clout? From where I'm standing it seems like a stomp.
Are there any Z fighter wincons? Or is this a character just got upgraded let's give him some dragon ball clout? From where I'm standing it seems like a stomp.
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I really don't see how this is a stomp.
For you answer, they have the Mafuba, better mobility, and ranged attacks.
And good teamwork.
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Kaido's ability to see the future is not passive and its activation is necessary.
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What the **** is your pfp???
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Uhhhhhh, it's just to test people for NNN
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Advanced Kenbun, maybe, but normal Kenbun is passive in combat.
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Doesn't need to consider the activation is via thought and lasts for several seconds that Kaido can spam.
It not being passive is irrelevant.
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Krillin, Tien, and Piccolo can fly as well
Yamcha is probably the only one who can't fly since we never saw him (he was also surprised when he saw Krillin fly for the first time)
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In that haki stage of observation can kaido see the future?
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He has precog, yes. Premonitions of the future.
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Krillin and Yamcha would definitely get K.O'd if they got hit by Hao
Then again there were some fodder Beast Pirates that survived (was it Big Mom's? or Luffy's?) Hao before so idk
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From what I was reading, for Kaido to use observation haki and see the future, he has to be concentrated.
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Big Mom usually uses her Hao to intimidate people so that her devil fruit would work effectively, so I'm not sure how valid using her as a basis is.
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Nope. For New World fighers, especially God Tiers of the verse like Kaidou, using Haki is like breathing to him.
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Grandpa gohan was stated to mastered all forms of martial arts on earth and can stomp martial artists who are considered pro by other pro martial artist here yamacha stating that he was an unparalleled martial artist and kid goku was said to surpassed him as a kid
We know that martial arts in db are way advance than our real world not just because of ki but master roshi was said to outclassed a guy who was said to be 30th level black belt in kenpo while there are only 10 level in real life
Goku on the spot invents a new style of fighting to counter sui-ken which is a real martial art
Does luffy has this levels of skills
We know that martial arts in db are way advance than our real world not just because of ki but master roshi was said to outclassed a guy who was said to be 30th level black belt in kenpo while there are only 10 level in real life
Goku on the spot invents a new style of fighting to counter sui-ken which is a real martial art
Does luffy has this levels of skills
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Ye IDK. Either way, I wouldn't bank on Yamcha and Krillin being able to survive a Hao attack
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Bro skill isn't a factor in this fight, I already said Z fighters are probably more technically skilled but it's not enough for it to a be a factor given the abilities and ap values at play. Moot point, move on, teamwork is way more important here
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I have not seen that in the haki blog that in the stage beyond the advanced stage such a thing was said
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Also, I'm just gonna say, skill absolutely does matter here, at least for the Dragon Team, because the Dragon Team doesn't have much else here that's super effective (yes they have Mafuba, IK).
I personally believe that the Dragon Team are more skilled than Kaido. But Kaido has so many abilities they need to get past first that IDK how they'll be able to fight effectively
I personally believe that the Dragon Team are more skilled than Kaido. But Kaido has so many abilities they need to get past first that IDK how they'll be able to fight effectively
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