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Team Fortress 9-A Upgrade

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I'd still rather have the base keys at 9-A, because of the Scout feat, and the fact that Sir Nukesalot's explosions are stronger than the explosion Scout survived.

Though, I'm not opposed to having an MvM Key itself.
 
Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E said:
Might just be another "9-B"
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People don't realize how strong bears actually are, but yes, you would be correct there.


Rtxthegamer said:
Sir Nukesalot's explosions are stronger than the explosion Scout survived.
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Sir Nukesalot under normal conditions would kill Scout in one shot easily, you need to add on resistances and overheal to even consider living.
 
Abstractions said:
Sir Nukesalot under normal conditions would kill Scout in one shot easily, you need to add on resistances and overheal to even consider living.
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Thats... kinda what I was getting at. It’s consistent in the sense that Scout can survive an at least near baseline 9-A explosion in his base, and with upgrades, can potentially survive explosions greater into 9-A.

Like I mentioned, there is also the feat of the giant robots surviving Sentry Buster Explosions, and the mercs being able to harm and kill them.

And also, all the Mercs should be capable of surviving a single crit pill with upgrades, and a single crit pill can do this.

With all this in mind, shouldn't it be fine to at the very least, say that the mercs are "At least 9-B, likely/possibly 9-A"? (The giants would just be 9-A due to being stronger than the mercs)
 
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Rtxthegamer said:
Thats... kinda what I was getting at. It’s consistent in the sense that Scout can survive an at least near baseline 9-A explosion in his base, and with upgrades, can potentially survive explosions greater into 9-A.

Like I mentioned, there is also the feat of the giant robots surviving Sentry Buster Explosions, and the mercs being able to harm and kill them.

And also, all the Mercs should be capable of surviving a single crit pill with upgrades, and a single crit pill can do this.

🌠 With all this in mind, shouldn't it be fine to at the very least, say that the mercs are "At least 9-B, likely/possibly 9-A"?
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I mean, the main medic scout feat that got calc'd for the billionth time finally got 9-A, and approved by another veteran.

But I guess since we wanna be safe here then: "9-B+ to likely 9-A at peak (In their early days) | 9-A (MVM upgrades)" Seems about right.
 
Abstractions said:
People don't realize how strong bears actually are, but yes, you would be correct there.



Sir Nukesalot under normal conditions would kill Scout in one shot easily, you need to add on resistances and overheal to even consider living.
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*Technically just resistances
 
Abstractions said:
People don't realize how strong bears actually are, but yes, you would be correct there.



Sir Nukesalot under normal conditions would kill Scout in one shot easily, you need to add on resistances and overheal to even consider living.
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That bear crushed an airplane with sheer weight tho
 
GPE is the energy for things falling and lifting stuff, thought GPE can only be used to calculate AP from lifting something if it's a quick lift
 
Akidwholiketopowerscale said:
GPE is the energy for things falling and lifting stuff, thought GPE can only be used to calculate AP from lifting something if it's a quick lift
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Well its been implied that Heavy has been doing this since he was far younger including her sisters. So doing all of that for Heavy's POV is like picking up a jug of milk from the fridge for him.

Keep in mind Scout bested a Heavy in three swings. while he killed Baby Bears shouldn't be far off by killing one with a ******* plastic bone and Solider snapping the neck of one as swiftly.
 
Abstractions said:
People don't realize how strong bears actually are, but yes, you would be correct there.
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Actually while this doesn't have much merit to TF2 things, about that; I remember a clip IRL of a teen under duress literally pushed aside a bear, even though she didn't notice it being a Bear, That sounds pretty cool.

Also is it true that under certain conditions regarding a person being under potent substances like meth that they are this heightned and can, I kid you not "Flip over a car"? That has to be an exaggeration right? If not then that shit's ******* scary. xD
 
Akidwholiketopowerscale said:
I don't think GPE could be used to calc this since he didn't lift the door, but it is a solid lifting strength feat
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Yeah I know, I also updated my post, nothing new but to get the point across lads... We can at least be assured of compromising that as they do vary in these and not cause too much kerfuffle.
 
Cool. Also this is a little off topic but could we make profiles for the companies, like Mann co or Australia?
 
Rtxthegamer said:
I think a few staff have agreed with this thread, including multiple calc group members. Though To my knowledge, they haven’t seen the recent arguments. Perhaps we can just message them to see if it’s fine by then still?

We can honestly just throw out Weekly’s arguments because they’ve been blatantly ignoring feats this whole time.
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I hope so... But still, my Vinyl Antennas sensing the bullshit levels a dimension away mate. Like I know we probably can not somehow count Solider rocket jumping with his Cow Mangler even though the site itself says "Rocket jumping can be performed without hindrance, and the shots can be reflected by enemy Pyros." But this is A-OK and we totally shouldn't call out for or push some luck.
 
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Btw, imo bonk Scout should be FTL. It can dodge even pompson’s radiation at point blank, and no one but scout scales to it
 
Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E said:
I hope so... But still, my Vinyl Antennas sensing the bullshit levels a dimension away mate. Like I know we probably can not somehow count Solider rocket jumping with his Cow Mangler even though the site itself says "Rocket jumping can be performed without hindrance, and the shots can be reflected by enemy Pyros." But this is A-OK and we totally shouldn't call out for or push some luck.
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We don't need to have the vaporization discussion again, and reflection doesn't imply characters can survive something.
 
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