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I don't really understand where the "intact" comes from, we can literally see parts of Orochi's body being ripped apart shortly before being completely drilled and killed 
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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And the claim would be right. Again ever tried to plunge a knife through a grape. The durability of the grape doesn’t hold against the knife. But it still remains on the tip of the knife.
What happened when Orochi got punched was akin to a needle being plunged through a cake. That’s because it’s an extremely small object impacting with an extremely large object vs now an extremely large object impacting with an extremely small object.
Whatever. If you’re going to make a CRT for this then you do you. I’ll just address the full argument properly there with rebuttals so the topic doesn’t need to continue being debated here.
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Well, Orochi survived is the thing. Since the heart element potentially operates on a cellular level, that's not really surprising though.
What is surprising is that he was still partially intact by the time he hit the resurrection chamber, despite being spun around for what, 12-15 kilometers at a minimum (considering the base was completely buried past the hilt before then), that's a long time. There was plenty of him was still glooping about in the resurrection chamber before God reformed him into Sage.
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This was Tatsumaki's last visually impressive feat, next thing she did was run from Homeless Emperor and get knocked unconscious by pre-vomit Fuhrer- I think it's plausible she was already nerfed considerably by the time she performed the feat- to the point where she would be closer in power to the strongest high dragons than somebody like OG Orochi or Sage Centipede
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He didn't survive anything that's just the remains of his dead body
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Being torn to pieces isn't a durability feat though.
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Just make the CRT so I can disagree with it already 
Because I don’t think we’re going anywhere with the positions arguing here for ad infinitum
Because I don’t think we’re going anywhere with the positions arguing here for ad infinitum
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Yeah, no point in continuing this conversation when this isn't even a CRT.
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Everyone over here talking about scaling for the Orochi feat. Meanwhile I just want to talk scaling for the Rover feat.
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Does anyone scale to Rover in durability? Besides Psykos maybe.
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Bang (without going full power) and Bomb damaged him with a combined attack and Gyoro Gyoro scales above Rover as well
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Psykos thought if Black S and Homeless teamed up they could beat Tats and only considered Rover good enough to be a distraction for Tats.
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Uh isn't orochi also being drilled here? And that its only after an unknown amount of distance and time spent of him being "grinded down" do we see the panels... which happened after the initial impact... which means compared to said panels he should have been less damaged earlier...
Youre talking about this as if the damage is instant and not gradual.
Replace the knife with an industrial drill.
Less not understand and more there being no explanation as to why its valid ._.
Owh oke sorry for the unwarranted posts but I really dont want to waste it lmaoJust make the CRT so I can disagree with it already
Because I don’t think we’re going anywhere with the positions arguing here for ad infinitum
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To be fair; everyone, including the readers, had no way of knowing that tats was THAT powerful before.
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You have to provide some good evidence that Psykos knew Tatsumaki was entire dimensions apart from her.
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What? Some of the profiles already accept the first half of what I said. After the Gyro Gyro puppet was destroyed, Psykos thought Homeless and Black S could beat Tats based on the power she used to destroy the puppet not her real full power that Psykos had no knowledge of. I'm very confused by your response.
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Didn't Rover just tank the whole thing?
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She’s not scaling to Tatsumaki, she’s scaling to Boros’ ship through a suppressed Tatsumaki.
Same tier =/= being comparable
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Her profile doesn't say otherwise. Tatsumaki scales way above 5.68 Exatons while Psykos scales to 9 Petatons
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Scale every part of the ship to the point where it can withstand the momentum of Saitama's jump on its entire hull is just stupid. I saw you scale the ******* gate in Boros Hall to the durability of the whole king and it's a cringe.
Several ship strength calculations had already been made, however, they were weaker than Saitama's jump and were not considered.
There is no reason to believe that that volley from Tatsumaki is on par with Lunar Leap. The Steel Knight then dismantled the ship for parts. Will you scale it?
Moreover, I see no reason to scale Psykos to a ship. This is an absolute outlier and it is based on sentences. God forbid she won Platinum.
Several ship strength calculations had already been made, however, they were weaker than Saitama's jump and were not considered.
There is no reason to believe that that volley from Tatsumaki is on par with Lunar Leap. The Steel Knight then dismantled the ship for parts. Will you scale it?
Moreover, I see no reason to scale Psykos to a ship. This is an absolute outlier and it is based on sentences. God forbid she won Platinum.
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Please, feel free to explain how Psykos’ ONLY FEAT with the serum is an outlier.
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Make a CRT.
What?
Psykos quite literally has no other feats other than scaling massively above everyone else.
Ignoring speed, what's wrong with that? You're acting like he at least has some narrative significance that would make it hard to believe that he's weaker than Psykos when it's actually the other way around as she was the creator and leader of the Monster Association.
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Mm, so you don’t have an explanation for how it’s supposedly an outlier?
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Boros literally scales to that feat lol
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Your headcanon.
She literally clashed with Tatsumaki kek
Care to explain why it doesn’t make sense beyond you just not liking it?
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The dead body that is... growing and crawling towards the altar. He's definitely alive and if God hadn't intervened Orochi was going to reform a proper body anyhow, Tatsumaki left large chunks of him intact and you can't do that with Orochi, especially when those chunks are next to an energy source as large as the mantle itselfHe didn't survive anything that's just the remains of his dead body
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Psykos - Dragon Level
ENO and Sage Centipede - Unknown level.
The story clearly implies that they are above dragons
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Unknown = Unknown, not above Dragon
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I'm pretty sure Unknown is simply the HA hasn't identified them or ONE simply hasn't given them any designated disaster levels.
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Scaling base Psykos to Tatsumaki's feats doesn't make any sense. It was clearly shown that Tatsumaki didn't really give it her all in this fight, and she later proved to be more powerful than the much stronger fused form of Psykos. And scaling Psykos above other monsters due to her being the leader doesn't make sense either, since there's a reason Orochi was the formal king.
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1. It's not base Psykos, but an amped one
2. The point of the scaling is that Tatsumaki showed more effort in this fight than she did against Boros' ship. Psykos doesn't even scale to Tatsumaki's full power so I don't know where ya'll are getting that from.
3. That last point isn't even being used as part of her justification.
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Read this thread and Psykos' profile because I don't feel explaining to you what you're misunderstanding.
I don't think anyone disagrees with you. That's not even used in the profiles.
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Yes, by that I mean that she is not fused with Orochi.
I don't see any way to gauge the extent to which Tatsumaki is holding back in both of these cases. In the fight with Psykos, she permanently maintains a carefree expression, and I do not understand how you can assess the level of her seriousness here. Was the rationale referring to her scary face on one of the pages? On the next one, she chills [1, 2] and eventually defeats Psykos without any tension. Whether she uses more power here or not is pure speculation, not a valid argument.
This issue was raised on the previous page of this thread, anyway.
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Fubuki quite literally states that Tatsumaki was exerting herself much more than usual
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Psykos drank a serum when she fought Tatsumaki.
