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I don't really understand where the "intact" comes from, we can literally see parts of Orochi's body being ripped apart shortly before being completely drilled and killed
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And the claim would be right. Again ever tried to plunge a knife through a grape. The durability of the grape doesn’t hold against the knife. But it still remains on the tip of the knife.The concept of instant annhiliation compared to gradual destruction is what I'm getting at. They claim that orochi's durability didn't hold against the forces involved so I wanted to give a good idea by what I proposed happened; insert ant analogy; compared to, ya know, immediately popping like a zit... like what happened when orochi got punched.
Well, Orochi survived is the thing. Since the heart element potentially operates on a cellular level, that's not really surprising though.The event wasn't multiple minutes. It was over quickly and Orochi died.
This was Tatsumaki's last visually impressive feat, next thing she did was run from Homeless Emperor and get knocked unconscious by pre-vomit Fuhrer- I think it's plausible she was already nerfed considerably by the time she performed the feat- to the point where she would be closer in power to the strongest high dragons than somebody like OG Orochi or Sage CentipedeAnd arguably Orochi being harmed by so many characters who are much weaker than Tatsumaki would be counter-evidence to this too.
He didn't survive anything that's just the remains of his dead bodyWell, Orochi survived is the thing. Since the heart element potentially operates on a cellular level, that's not really surprising though.
Being torn to pieces isn't a durability feat though.What is surprising is that he was still partially intact by the time he hit the resurrection chamber, despite being spun around for what, 12-15 kilometers at a minimum (considering the base was completely buried past the hilt before then), that's a long time.
Does anyone scale to Rover in durability? Besides Psykos maybe.Everyone over here talking about scaling for the Orochi feat. Meanwhile I just want to talk scaling for the Rover feat.
Bang (without going full power) and Bomb damaged him with a combined attack and Gyoro Gyoro scales above Rover as wellDoes anyone scale to Rover in durability? Besides Psykos maybe.
Uh isn't orochi also being drilled here? And that its only after an unknown amount of distance and time spent of him being "grinded down" do we see the panels... which happened after the initial impact... which means compared to said panels he should have been less damaged earlier...No, what you are saying is that if a car hits a person and two seconds later they die from the force, they scale to the initial kinetic energy of the hit.
There's no multiple instances of damage here. It's one action that killed Orochi.
Replace the knife with an industrial drill.And the claim would be right. Again ever tried to plunge a knife through a grape. The durability of the grape doesn’t hold against the knife. But it still remains on the tip of the knife.
What happened when Orochi got punched was akin to a needle being plunged through a cake. That’s because it’s an extremely small object impacting with an extremely large object vs now an extremely large object impacting with an extremely small object..
Less not understand and more there being no explanation as to why its valid ._.Just because you don't understand why it's not valid doesn't make useable. You don't scale to feats that kill you
Owh oke sorry for the unwarranted posts but I really dont want to waste it lmaoJust make the CRT so I can disagree with it already
Because I don’t think we’re going anywhere with the positions arguing here for ad infinitum
To be fair; everyone, including the readers, had no way of knowing that tats was THAT powerful before.Psykos thought if Black S and Homeless teamed up they could beat Tats and only considered Rover good enough to be a distraction for Tats.
You have to provide some good evidence that Psykos knew Tatsumaki was entire dimensions apart from her.Psykos thought if Black S and Homeless teamed up they could beat Tats and only considered Rover good enough to be a distraction for Tats.
What? Some of the profiles already accept the first half of what I said. After the Gyro Gyro puppet was destroyed, Psykos thought Homeless and Black S could beat Tats based on the power she used to destroy the puppet not her real full power that Psykos had no knowledge of. I'm very confused by your response.You have to provide some good evidence that Psykos knew Tatsumaki was entire dimensions apart from her.
Didn't Rover just tank the whole thing?Bang (without going full power) and Bomb damaged him with a combined attack and Gyoro Gyoro scales above Rover as well
She’s not scaling to Tatsumaki, she’s scaling to Boros’ ship through a suppressed Tatsumaki.Why are we scaling Psycos to Tatsumaki at all? Because she broke free from the shackles of a frivolous Tatsumaki and a swollen vein? She is fodder for Tatsumaki and this scaling is pure sur.
Her profile doesn't say otherwise. Tatsumaki scales way above 5.68 Exatons while Psykos scales to 9 PetatonsShe is fodder for Tatsumaki
Please, feel free to explain how Psykos’ ONLY FEAT with the serum is an outlier.This is an absolute outlier
Make a CRT.I see no reason to scale Psykos to a ship
What?it is based on sentences
Psykos quite literally has no other feats other than scaling massively above everyone else.This is an absolute outlier
Ignoring speed, what's wrong with that? You're acting like he at least has some narrative significance that would make it hard to believe that he's weaker than Psykos when it's actually the other way around as she was the creator and leader of the Monster Association.God forbid she won Platinum
Mm, so you don’t have an explanation for how it’s supposedly an outlier?This is her only feat, so what? There is no reason to scale it up to the durability of the entire ship.
Boros literally scales to that feat lolSaitama performed an FTL feat by accidentally raising his hand. Why don't you scale Boros before then?
Your headcanon.Because High 6-A is a Dragon+
She literally clashed with Tatsumaki kekand she didn't show anything other than to grab Tatsumaki, who wasn't expecting any resistance, uselessly attack and run away
Care to explain why it doesn’t make sense beyond you just not liking it?You're putting her above ENO and Sage, which doesn't make sense at all.
The dead body that is... growing and crawling towards the altar. He's definitely alive and if God hadn't intervened Orochi was going to reform a proper body anyhow, Tatsumaki left large chunks of him intact and you can't do that with Orochi, especially when those chunks are next to an energy source as large as the mantle itselfHe didn't survive anything that's just the remains of his dead body
Psykos - Dragon LevelCare to explain why it doesn’t make sense beyond you just not liking it?
Unknown = Unknown, not above DragonPsykos - Dragon Level
ENO and Sage Centipede - Unknown level.
The story clearly implies that they are above dragons
1. It's not base Psykos, but an amped oneScaling base Psykos to Tatsumaki's feats doesn't make any sense. It was clearly shown that Tatsumaki didn't really give it her all in this fight, and she later proved to be more powerful than the much stronger fused form of Psykos. And scaling Psykos above other monsters due to her being the leader doesn't make sense either, since there's a reason Orochi was the formal king.
Read this thread and Psykos' profile because I don't feel explaining to you what you're misunderstanding.Scaling base Psykos to Tatsumaki's feats doesn't make any sense
I don't think anyone disagrees with you. That's not even used in the profiles.scaling Psykos above other monsters due to her being the leader doesn't make sense either
Yes, by that I mean that she is not fused with Orochi.1. It's not base Psykos, but an amped one
I don't see any way to gauge the extent to which Tatsumaki is holding back in both of these cases. In the fight with Psykos, she permanently maintains a carefree expression, and I do not understand how you can assess the level of her seriousness here. Was the rationale referring to her scary face on one of the pages? On the next one, she chills [1, 2] and eventually defeats Psykos without any tension. Whether she uses more power here or not is pure speculation, not a valid argument.2. The point of the scaling is that Tatsumaki showed more effort in this fight than she did against Boros' ship. Psykos doesn't even scale to Tatsumaki's full power so I don't know where ya'll are getting that from.
This issue was raised on the previous page of this thread, anyway.3. That last point isn't even being used as part of her justification.
Fubuki quite literally states that Tatsumaki was exerting herself much more than usualshe permanently maintains a carefree expression, and I do not understand how you can assess the level of her seriousness here
Psykos drank a serum when she fought Tatsumaki.Yes, by that I mean that she is not fused with Orochi.