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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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One Normal Punch could one-shot Orochi (High 6-A). Another Normal Punch didn't one-shot Post-SC Garou (6-A+)
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This is somewhat headcanon but I feel like there’s no reason to assume that Saitama’s special attacks don’t have a fixed strength. Monster garou survivint consecutive normal punches when boros got ripped apart is consistent, serious punch one shotting collapsing star boros and being taken by cosmic Garou’s consistent too
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If we do a bigger research I think there are even more examples of this variable power
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The serious punch Saitama did against Boros is far weaker than the one against Garou as it did less damage to the surrounding area, but also it being stated by Boros Saitama was still holding back the entire time
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The parting of the clouds was High 6A, which doesn't account for the high upward angle of the attack. The High 6A is just what was left.
Ehh. I mean he disintegrated the character along his entire multi kilometer body length. Also personally I support the idea of 6B scaling from FF, so this argument means even less to me.
I mean occasional inconsistencies happen all the time though. Plenty of Genos' City Level attacks do building level damage 90% of the time. I wouldn't say that proves the attacks AP actually varies that much.
I can't access those links, could you tell me the chapter of the Garou one?
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Yeah also something to note is that Saitama could have just been straight up lying about using a Serious Punch to Boros so he would feel better, though I admit this is pretty much unprovable either way.
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I mean look at the blast that caused the feat vs the blast that sent them to Io. That thin beam is like 1/100th of the attack.
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Tbf, I feel that the difference between Serious Punch and Normal Punch is not the strength used, but the state of mind Saitama had when he used such punch.
For example, while fighting Gouketsu, Suiryu asked Saitama if Gouketsu was strong for him, but he said he defeated Gouketsu with one punch, and he couldn't see the difference between him and the other monsters he one-shots.
However, after being stressed because he lost infinite times against King and went to beat the shit out of Elder Centipede, Saitama used a Serious Punch against EC, despite (at least on the wiki) EC being weaker than Gouketsu.
This may be the reason about why he didn't use serious punches against Garou, who's stronger than Boros: because he wanted to dignify Boros' death with a punch that is actually "serious", meanwhile, against Garou, he was just playing and didn't mean to kill nor severally damage him. Despite the normal punches used against Garou are stronger than the serious punch used against Boros.
For example, while fighting Gouketsu, Suiryu asked Saitama if Gouketsu was strong for him, but he said he defeated Gouketsu with one punch, and he couldn't see the difference between him and the other monsters he one-shots.
However, after being stressed because he lost infinite times against King and went to beat the shit out of Elder Centipede, Saitama used a Serious Punch against EC, despite (at least on the wiki) EC being weaker than Gouketsu.
This may be the reason about why he didn't use serious punches against Garou, who's stronger than Boros: because he wanted to dignify Boros' death with a punch that is actually "serious", meanwhile, against Garou, he was just playing and didn't mean to kill nor severally damage him. Despite the normal punches used against Garou are stronger than the serious punch used against Boros.
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Boros didn’t say he was holding back the entire time, he just said it wasn’t even a fight, something very different. The moment Saitama DID get serious, Boros obviously got one shot through his roaring cannon and regen negated
And besides, you can be not holding back but that doesn’t mean you’re at your 100% power. And it’s also most likely that Saitama’s AD activated after he said “it’s almost a real fight” and showed a clear upsurge in emotion with that line, which would explain why he had strength to spare
Saitama did indeed go serious against boros, since Saitama’s more casual punches were already ripping apart high 6-A boros repeatedly, and the serious punch obviously transcended that power
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Those 2 blast happened because Blast and his squad contended Serious Punches so it didn't hit the Earth. The original consequences may be even greater.
Also, answering to the other things:
6-B and High 6-A is a way big gap to say the punches don't vary in strength
Bro... are you comparing the gap between a building and a mountain with the gap between a Moon and many solar systems at lightyears of distance?
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Yeah I'm, (in my headcanon), sure that "he took damage" title was legit and then Saitama's AD went off the charts.
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Chapter 162 pages 18-20
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No, I'm just saying we have to acknowledge that there's no way Saitama's Serious Punches could be doing accurate 4A damage in the story without destroying the planet, so it doesn't ean we can't scale him. I was more giving an example
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I don't see the normal punch label on that attack. Just seems like a random attack.
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Tbf, if Saitama was just as strong as Released Boros, Boros wouldn't have said his energy was ummeasurable.
And if he really took damage there and then his AD started to work (
I mean, it's not inconsistence. It's just that Saitama punches vary in power. Trying to say that one serious punch causing no damage, other serious punch causing High 6-A damage to the atmosphere, other serious punch causing Moon Level damage, and other punch destroying a bunch of stars is "drawing inconsistence" is too much.
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I don't think Saitama has ever specifically named a Normal Punch outside of CNP.
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I remember he did it against Orochi before the fight was redrawn. I don't know about any other instance
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Well he also said his energy was immesureable lol.
I mean there are source books that say Boros could destroy stars, so it's not impossible. Also, maybe Boros only did a very minor amount of damage so Saitama didn't really notice the power growth. In other words, Saitama >>> Released Boros, then Released Boros "does damage", and Saitama becomes >>>>> Released Boros, then when he goes into Meteoric Burst he's << Saitama. This makes him almost a real fight, and then the small damage Saitama takes from that makes him >> CSRC.
The destruction is inconsistent, I get it. But by this same logic nobody can actually scale to Goku's attacks because they're too inconsistent. one minute they're doing High 3A damage and about to destroy the universe, and the next there are no shockwaves at all.
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I mean I'm mostly talking about CNP anyways.
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What's the feat that happen during Saitama and Tatsu fight that can be turn into something huge in manga
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I doubt he couldn't measure an energy equal/weaker to his
Misstranslation because the kanji of stars and planet is the same
Saitama's exponential growth is based on his emotions. And after receiving the hit that "did damage", Saitama was bored, asking Boros if that was all and to stop his talking. And Saitama saying it was "almost as a real fight" was because he got BFR'd to the Moon, and he thought he may not be able to come back.
And, anyways, Saitama growing here contradicts Boros not noticing Saitama's growth, Boros saying Saitama had strong to spare, Saitama talking to King about how he did not feel nothing by fighting for so long and that he couldn't grow any stronger, etc. If Saitama was forced to 100% there, he would've noticed that.
Don't compare it. Ki Control is something that existed for years in DB, something that does not exist in OPM.
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Maybe Saitama and Tatsumaki passing through the city and killing a Dragon Threat in the process, or the Tornado Tatsumaki created that was treated as a Dragon Level thread for the Association.
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Tats making a tornado
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Bro the whole "ki control controls shockwave size" is such a myth. Ki control exists, but just how they use their abilities/transform. In fact while debating someone about this they showed me a description of one of Vegeta's ki attacks that specifically says he liked the attack for numerous reasons, one of which was that that attack's radius could be changed to his will. It's a unique property of 1 attack.
Also I'm talking about shockwaves from punches connecting to each other, which would have nothing to do with ki control.
And regardless of if that's a good example or not, my point should just be self evident. Infinity Ultron is Low 2C, and yet he doesn't destroy every universe he fights in.
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This doesn't prove that different 4-A, 5-C, High 6-A and 7-B punches have the same strength, just because they share the same name. Nor counters the point of Saitama saying he cannot grow anymore/don't enjoy the fights, nor justify why Saitama used a suposed 4-A full power attack against a 7-B character, etc.
And those are other verses, not OPM.
And those are other verses, not OPM.
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the AP vs DP discrepancy is still in opm, since the shockwaves of saitama beating the shit out of garou didn't just incinerate io
the cloud splitting is a completely obsolete feat and can't be used as an anti feat for this reason
the cloud splitting is a completely obsolete feat and can't be used as an anti feat for this reason
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So, according to you, a Saitama bloodlusted because of the death of his friend punched with the same strength as a Saitama who just was annoyed because he lost against King at a videogame?
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I didn't say that dumbass
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The insult was completely unnecesary.
And the debate was about that. If you talk about the cloud split not being an "anti-feat", and we were talking about how the damage caused shows the difference of the strength applied to the serious punches, what do you spect I'll guess?
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Literally on this wiki we make the distinction between AP and Destructive Capabilities for that reason. AP doesn't always line up with enviromental damage like it should.
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Kind of unnecessary.
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easily.
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no, no and no.
again you saying that a 4-a character is going serious agaisnt a high 6-a one?
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tatsumaki shaking the planet while throwing saitama to the ground and saitama having 0% damages, or something like tatsumaki throwing saitama to the moon and destroying it and revealing god's corpse (or body idk)
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Shaking the planet is only Low 6-B tho
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well said high 6-A character died extremely fast for a character with regen that high sono, no and no.
again you saying that a 4-a character is going serious agaisnt a high 6-a one?
yes
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excuse me, didnt understand
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but it's visually a nice feat
