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They can deal with Type 2 NEP. Though the only aspects they can't affect is 2 and 3
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And the NEP Aspect 2 for What a Beautiful series is only Type 2 Cm
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and type 3
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i think kratos vs spider grandpa needs a rematch
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He’s still intractable by normal NEP 2, cuz his Type 3 NEP is just replacing the NEP 1 part with NEP 2, and also still no CM Type 1 NEP
Does wizard 101 have any layers
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Hmm, i'll make the match then
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The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 5⌋ [Reactive Evolution Edition!]
Let's talk about reactive evolution, and some tangentially related topics. I'm saving one of these feats for later, so hopefully what I have here will be enough to satisfy those of you hungry for another 9000-word long essay on why Kratos is stupid and gay or whatever. Also, happy pride! Zeus'...
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By what standards do you say this? Sonic standards?
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we should talk about how it makes no sense for a guy with type 1 concept hax to interact with NEP 2 aspect 2 just because the concept they lack is a type 2 concept. it doesn't matter what number it is, they still lack the concept in the first place
saying, "he doesn't lack a type 1 concept so concept hax can work" doesn't make any sense
this guy is NOT interacting with this guy
saying, "he doesn't lack a type 1 concept so concept hax can work" doesn't make any sense
this guy is NOT interacting with this guy
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Acausality (Type 5 - M is beyond time, space and causality[4]. He exists as that which is not within, the outside itself[10], he is a transcendent being of the outer universe[11] of Sharnoth, which is an eternally unchanging world[1]. M is unchanging, with time, and anything else humans value holding no meaning to him[1])
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1 - Sharnoth, an infinite world[1] is the way it is[1] because M feels nothing. The infinite darkness of Sharnoth and M are the same thing. All areas of darkness are his domain[8]. his "Jet Black" being beyond time, space and causality[4])
His Type 1 is from being beyond Time, Space, and Causality
I mean, im pretty sure type 1 concepts are more abstract/fundemental, and a concept type 2 nep would lack something less abstract/fundemental
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it does not matter if the concept number is more fundamental if they lack the concept in the first place
using your logic anyone with CM 1 can interact with nep 2 aspect 2 even though they have no feats of interacting with something like that just because the concept type is different
if garfield had conceptual manip type 1, do you think he would be able to interact with nep 2 aspect 2 just because the person with nep 2 aspect 2 is a type 2 concept?
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They would not be lacking the more fundamental concept if they were an aspect 2 for CM2, also since it’s a type 2 Concept, could it still be interacted indirectly because it’s dependent on something in reality
This doesnt prove anything
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Billy cypher became 5-D boys, and Dante MAY also become 5-D
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Not on my watch he ain't.
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Correct, he is 10-D
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Type 1 Concepts aren't more abstract, they're just independent of reality.
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On an abstract/fundamental level, a Type 1 is above what it governs, while a Type 2 is on the same level as what it governs
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They are not above it, they are independent, it's two separate things. Type 1 Concepts, can have superiority over what they govern, however in the default description, they don't.
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If thats the case, shouldnt a Type 2 Concept NEP still be affect still be affected by the alteration of reality, also the NEP page says "They are hence immune to regular manipulation of said concept(s). Which type of concept should be mentioned on the profile." which implies it depends what Type it is
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That wrong, Type 1 is just independent of reality, the only concept type that is superior to what it governs is Platonic-type concept, since according to platonic concept, the physical reality is just a shadow, and extension of the abstract concept itself. Our type 1 concept is just a broad definition for all concepts that is independent from what it govern, Jungian Archetype also a concept that independent from reality but not superior to it. People just arbitrary think that Type 1 is all platonic-type concept since current type 1 is the fusion of old type 1 which is called true platonic concept and old type 2 which is called false platonic concept bruhh
Also my sematic nitpicking: independent =/= superiority. I'm independent from the house i built, doesn't mean i'm superior to it, the house can still crush me if it fall on me
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type 1 Cm is not interacting with nep 2 aspect 2 unless shown FRA...
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Amusing to see my obscure Nyarlathotep's generating pages of discussion.
Like us WABS guys are just chilling, and this discussion is still ongoing.
Like us WABS guys are just chilling, and this discussion is still ongoing.
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CM1 is just a broad term for concept that independent of reality, something that we, vsbw users created and i will repeat again, independent =/= superiority. There is no most logical explanation here, cause i already gave actual example of why independent concept doesn't mean said concept superior to what it govern
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bro what are you talking about? the person with type 1 CM would need proof of affecting the concept of nothingness
How is the concept of circles for example going to govern nothingness? Nothingness isn't a circle, it isn't fire, it isn't any concept based on any existing thing. The only concept that would work would be the concept of nothingness which Garfield if he had CM 1 would need proof of affecting
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The CM Type 1 would not need to directly affect The Concept of Nothingness if the Concept is only type 2, and could instead affect what it's bounded to, if it's bounded to something nonexistent, then sure the Type 1 cant affect either without feats, but if it's bounded to something in reality, it can be affected
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What the hell you guys are arguing???
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broge thinks CM 1 can interact with nonexistent physiology type 2 aspect 2 if the person with NEP aspect 2 aspect is a type 2 concept
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you are just making up your own standards man..
i made this thread
ANSWER THIS QUESTION PLEASE
Character A has 8-D soul crush Character B has 5-D high godly regeneration Will Character A bypass the high godly regeneration? question2 basically character A has type 1 concept hax, has no feats of interacting with NEP 2 aspect 2 is fighting B who has nonexistent physiology type 2 aspect 2...
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I mean, depend, since the NEP guy lack concept aspect, CM can't interact with him, but some fiction characters have feat capable of applying concept into objects, person, etc....these kind of characters can definitely doing something to NEP guy who lack concept. So it is depending on available feats
Or you need to overwhelming the NEP guy with higher dimensionality power and the NEP guy lack feat of surviving after getting slapped by such a force
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we are assuming the guy with CM 1 has no feats of interacting with nep 2 aspect 2 if he is a type 2 concept
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I editted my comment, but anyway like i said, depend on what kind of feats the guy with CM1 have been showing, if he has feat applying concept to objects, persons, etc...... then he can force a concept on the NEP guy, make him now do not lacking a concept anymore, but if CM1 guy have no such feat then yeah he can't do anything
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those arent my own, thats just how concept type 2 works, it can be affected indirectly by what it’s bound to
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ANSWER THIS QUESTION PLEASE
Character A has 8-D soul crush Character B has 5-D high godly regeneration Will Character A bypass the high godly regeneration? question2 basically character A has type 1 concept hax, has no feats of interacting with NEP 2 aspect 2 is fighting B who has nonexistent physiology type 2 aspect 2...vsbattles.com
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@Brogeefrong see bro i told u
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Was this scenario even taken into account, it's not directly manipulating the Nonexistent Concept here
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No.
this is just a big ass NLF
lets wait till we get staff input
this is just a big ass NLF
lets wait till we get staff input
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Pegasus whats your opinion on this
do you think a guy with CM 1 can interact with nep 2 aspect 2 if the nep person is a type 2 concept? this is assuming the person with cm 1 has no feats of interacting with beings like this
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It’s not? Type 2 Concepts can be manipulated without directly interacting with them
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yes it is
saying someone with CM 1 can interact with type 2 concept nep with no feats is and will always be an nlf
saying someone with CM 1 can interact with type 2 concept nep with no feats is and will always be an nlf
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