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Also AE1 and Transduality Type 2??, she going to be top 1.
Wait, Shiva have AE1, and Transdual 2, why he below Kratos??
Wait, Shiva have AE1, and Transdual 2, why he below Kratos??
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Strongest 5D Characters on the Wiki
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ATM the only distinction between transduality and nonduality on the page is the implementation of qualitative superiority. If there's qualitative superiority, they'd be 1-A, if not, then their "transduality" is effectively nonduality type 2, which wouldn't exactly put them above Wizard101's god-tiers
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Yeah, at this point transduality type 2 and 3 should be 1-A, but i'm remember Ultima plan to revise it later so
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i think they should be tied with number 2
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So, with these abilities, what exactly does they have beyond being a stone wall?
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their hax is 5-D
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because shiva just incons the characters who are above him, he doesn't win
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then at least he should share the same spot as them??, also i think you need to put SSB:UT Goku, Fu:Youth and DBF Arale share the same spot as Demigra, they have passive while Demigra doesn't
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no
we talked about this here
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Wouldnt that also apply to the instant death characters instant death characters are way more haxed than shiva, krishna and can actually win and not make everything inconclusive but they should probably be below kratos now that i think about it
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Why is transduality being treated as different from nonduality on this thread? The nonduality page literally says that the only distinction involves qualitative superiority which is 1-A, so either the characters should be treated as 1-A or they should be treated as having nonduality type 2. To that end Wizard101 characters already have that + AE 1 + High Godly Regen, and there's one character with NEP 2 on top of everything else.
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because no one revise Transduality yet, Ultima plan to do it, but the ETA of that thread is unknown, so we....................well, in the meantime using old difference between transdual and nondual
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Ayo, you linked wrong Arale, the one on OP is Dr.Slump which is tier 2 with 5D smurf, what you need to link is this version
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The old difference still invoked qualitative superiority. The only difference is that qualitative superiority went from N+1 to 1-A. In the former case, this suggests that all N-Dimensional characters are transdual to N-1-Dimensional concepts, in which case they're either 6D or the concepts are 4D and thus irrelevant because all 5D characters are transdual by comparison. In the latter case, if suggests every character with R>F has transduality.
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What level of transduality do they have? Is it over 4D concepts or 5D? Types 1 or 2?
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“5-D” type 1 concepts since they govern 5-D stuff and both characters can continue existing after destruction of physical reality
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i think slay the princess characters need a match with sora
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God of War Dimensional Downgrade Part 1(???): The Yggdrasil
A while ago, God of War's characters were upgraded to Low 1-C due to scaling to the Yggdrasil, which encompasses the Realm Between Realms, which itself was argued to be Low 1-C due to it separating parallel realms, and because separate geometrically-parallel 4D entities could only be embedded in...
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does anyone know if kratos can survive 5-D erasure that is passive?
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What kind of 5-D erasure
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I think Kratos’ conceptual invulnerability protects him still.
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but he can interact with type 1 concepts
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Kratos’ concept manip is layered I believe.
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Sound like a generic EE to me
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It only protect him against damage, at conceptual level
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i don't think its generic
even restricted hero can do this
(Can kill the Shifting Mound through her avatar,[7] destroying her on a conceptual level and removing her nature from reality
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wait what happens if goku erases kratos from history
will it work?
will it work?
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Damn, next time please bro, post the entire profile so we can see the entire context bruhh, that Passive EE justification look very generic alone
I'm not going to comment on this, not going to step on a landmine
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Depends if what Vietthai96 says is true and the invulnerability only protects Kratos from CM, then yes. However, I would recommend contacting a god of war supporter for a concrete answer.
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I mean, from the profile, it seem so, since Fear Zeus is the concept of fear itself, however he is unable to damage Kratos, so yeah, the Invul cover conceptual damage at least, and probably even conceptual erasure but well that is me
******* no, you are going to kill us
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time to remove davoth
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1. Goku is beating the living crap out of kratos, as of now
2. Bump bill cipher at the very least above the protagonist
2. Bump bill cipher at the very least above the protagonist
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