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ND gives immunity to stuff that doesnt have the same level logical states
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Strongest 5D Characters on the Wiki
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Stfu, grown ups are talking
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Yeah, too bad Sonic himself isn't ND.
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Tell him
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Aura < — Sonic —> aura
Get around the aura and you’re golden. If you can’t you’re screwed
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Correct
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You were told wrong then.
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Wouldn’t that be partially me?
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I mean why wouldn't it according to his reason, cause I got no other reason to think otherwise
Also Dimensional Domain wont work cause ND energy
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Chaos Energy is Nondual,and thus immune.
The characters themselves aren't Nondual. However,they just resist abilities that work on that level. That's what Shake meant.
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Pretty sure Shake was explicitly taking it less far than I am
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As always.
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@Greenshifter I just thought of something. how do we treat time hax?
It's true Chaos Energy is ND. However,due to the 2nd temporal dimension, DBH's time hax technically goes beyond the scope of what Chaos Energy transcends. Aren't we stuck in a limbo?
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5D hax > 4D ND? Seems to be the logical conclusion of our previous discussion no? Or was ND an exception?
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One more word out of you and I swear…
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Sonic's cosmology is 4 spatial dimensions +1 temporal
DBH's is 3 spatial + 2 temporal.
Dimensionality isn't what matters here.
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Aren't there also 4D temporal realms in Sonic aswell
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I think what you’re trying to argue depends on the time ability in question. Most notably time stop still working.
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Yeah, I guess. What's your opinion on it,under VBW standards?
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Kratos is empowered and protected by Hope down to his soul and concept. Zeus has conceptual sealing, destruction and can adapt to have his powers surpass resistance to conceptual destruction and magic, with Fear being beyond even that, but all of that is completely futile in front of Hope.
I assume Sonic is more of an aura but I could be very wrong.
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I could just call what Kratos has a “Hope” aura though
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So it's completely different. Thanks for the clarification.
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Haven’t studied up on VSBW ND that much but chances are that since it’s so easy to get, anything that goes beyond its scope will work. So time beyond time and 5D vs 4D probably still works.
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Is it? Sure maybe all of Sonic’s aspects aren’t as explicitly protected as Kratos’ but the whole protected by X concept thing is still applicable
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Perhaps? Kratos' stuff is based on his very essence being that way, though. Sonic's isn't.
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Yes, I suppose Hope did reside within him so that would make Sonic “Diet Kratos”.
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As a general rule of thumb I suggest that things which have to traverse the distance between Sonic and his opponent won’t work and things which don’t, will work. With the exception of stuff like higher-D (in comparison to Chaos Energy’s ND) attacks.
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Expect me to pull a "Freeze GG" argument sooner or later,then.
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Kek
Forcefield creation should be on the page and it’s something that automatically happens. There’s also Sonic’s durability being boosted by Chaos Energy.
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Alr.
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it is passive
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Someone told me in the Amat vs AO thread that it wasn't
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Krishna (Shree Krishna TV show)
Vasudev, a noble and Devaki, the princess of Mathura had just been married. As they were about to leave for Vasudev's home, Kamsa, Devaki's corrupted brother decided to drive their chariot. Just then, a divine voice announced that the eighth child of Devaki would be the one to kill Kamsa. Evil...
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This guy should be above or Equals to Shiva.Krishna (Shree Krishna TV show)
Vasudev, a noble and Devaki, the princess of Mathura had just been married. As they were about to leave for Vasudev's home, Kamsa, Devaki's corrupted brother decided to drive their chariot. Just then, a divine voice announced that the eighth child of Devaki would be the one to kill Kamsa. Evil...
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Shiva loses because he will end up running out of stamina..
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