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Well, this didn't make it through the layer evaluation thread, so Goku's EE via time power only has 7 layers.Goku's Aura EE is at least 9 layers, since Time Power EE > Hakai, Hakai in DBH is 5D baseline
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Well, this didn't make it through the layer evaluation thread, so Goku's EE via time power only has 7 layers.Goku's Aura EE is at least 9 layers, since Time Power EE > Hakai, Hakai in DBH is 5D baseline
Time Power generally have 7 layers, the EE have higher layer due to > Hakai. This is basic knowledgeWell, this didn't make it through the layer evaluation thread, so Goku's EE via time power only has 7 layers.
The only layered thing in SDBH is past was the Time Power, and possibly its evil aura since it was after the thread existed.Time Power generally have 7 layers, the EE have higher layer due to > Hakai. This is basic knowledge
Time power ee is conceptual shouldn't it be better by defaultI don’t think so
Fair pointTime power ee is conceptually non-existent^2 shouldn't it be better by default
yesPassive EE?
On what level does it do cause Goku still has CM1, Info 2 and History Regen
I hate my ******* life...fu*ry for 12th place, Knives can't do jackshit to passive subjective reality, Immortality type 9, Large size (5-D), and most importantly Plot manipulation. The real question is...Can Spawn beat him?
Edit: Oh jesus, I don't think anyone bellow Setoki can beat him, any spawn supporter here?
u should make a match up with him vs spawnI hate my ******* life...fu*ry for 12th place, Knives can't do jackshit to passive subjective reality, Immortality type 9, Large size (5-D), and most importantly Plot manipulation. The real question is...Can Spawn beat him?
Edit: Oh jesus, I don't think anyone bellow Setoki can beat him, any spawn supporter here?
i forgor goku can just regen from thatOn what level does it do cause Goku still has CM1, Info 2 and History Regen
Goku has and resist casuality manipi forgor goku can just regen from that
there's this thing called null tempus which makes the character completely undo an event that just happened and cause it to be reattempted with hopefully a better result for the character
He'd probably be dead before he can try cause time aurawouldn't omega be able to negate the info manip but undoing the event of the info manip happening over and over again?
8 layersGoku has and resist casuality manip
yeah probablyHe'd probably be dead before he can try cause time aura
Was this evaluated in the thread?8 layers
yesWas this evaluated in the thread?
As far as I know it is the energy that has non-duality and not the characters.So with the Nonduality stuff for the Sonic characters they have immunity to the Time aura stuff
I asked shaking about it and he said they had immunity to what the dreams duality stuff hadAs far as I know it is the energy that has non-duality and not the characters.
Not in their profile, and considering the stance that supporters have with High tier DnD...I don't see it changing any time sooninb4. B-But they have plot manipulation
They would go down alotwhat happens if DBH loses their concept and info stuff
DBH abilities: Electric Boogaloo
Yeah so I looked at the Time Power and Special Ki pages for DBH and there's yet again more questionable stuff I see, so lets get to it. Concept Hax: So ignoring how more than half of this paragraph long explanation feels like nothing burgers as it just repeats stuff unrelated to Conceptual hax...vsbattles.com
would it be enough for sonic characters to take them out?They would go down alot
Yeah, and maybe along with Kratos and Sorawould it be enough for sonic characters to take them out?
yeahPS Sora, Sonic, Kratos and Instant Death should probably share a tier, as Instant death cant really do anything back to them
You two thought you cooked? Well, you clearly underestimated CC Goku.heck rn idk how the match is rn cuz the thread got locked early
I still need the ND stuff answered and I probably would need to ask questions about abstract invulnerability stuffYou two thought you cooked? Well, you clearly underestimated CC Goku.
(Mind ya we were kinda already assuming the downgrades had gone through)
Sonic is physical, his invulnerability changes little.I still need the ND stuff answered and I probably would need to ask questions about abstract invulnerability stuff
His energy is ND, thus his invulnerability is also ND, way I see it you’d need to have bypassed ND invulnerability to get past his invulnerability, also since speed is always equal according to the rules for this list, even if Sonic isn't 5D temporal immeasurable speed when speed isn't equalized, since it is Sonic could dodgeSonic is physical, his invulnerability changes little.
You'd have to argue Sonic himself to be nondual in order for your argument to work.
No,only the energy is Nondual. Sonic's body becomes physically invulnerable,but that only extends to physical attack. Hax is covered by resistances,in case.His energy is ND, thus his invulnerability is also ND, way I see it you’d need to have bypassed ND invulnerability to get past his invulnerability, also since speed is always equal according to the rules for this list, even if Sonic isn't 5D temporal immeasurable speed when speed isn't equalized, since it is Sonic could dodge
His body is empowered by a ND energy source, thus his Invulnerability is NDNo,only the energy is Nondual. Sonic's body becomes physically invulnerable,but that only extends to physical attack. Hax is covered by resistances,in case.
"ND invulnerability" isn't a thing, unless,again you think Sonic himself is also NonDual.
For what I've been told the ND energy gives him a resistance to stuff like the UT AuraAnd no, the UT aura covers such a vast area, it's literally impossible for him to dodge under SBA.
Tbh I could see it, kinda like Kratos’s conceptual invulnerability. If you argue his aura is what makes him invulnerable that is.No,only the energy is Nondual. Sonic's body becomes physically invulnerable,but that only extends to physical attack. Hax is covered by resistances,in case.
Sorry to burst your bubble,but no. Being empowered by an abstract source =! Being abstract yourself. It never worked like that.His body is empowered by a ND energy source, thus his Invulnerability is ND
Abstractness doesn't correlate to potency. Sonic has no potency layers as of now,only abstract ones.For what I've been told the ND energy gives him a resistance to stuff like the UT Aura
Ong, man pulled a “sorry to burst your bubble”. No way!Sorry to burst your bubble
Kratos' invulnerability seems way different. But maybe it's just me.Tbh I could see it, kinda like Kratos’s conceptual invulnerability. If you argue his aura is what makes him invulnerable that is.