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Well, this didn't make it through the layer evaluation thread, so Goku's EE via time power only has 7 layers.
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Strongest 5D Characters on the Wiki
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Vietthai96
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Time Power generally have 7 layers, the EE have higher layer due to > Hakai. This is basic knowledge
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The only layered thing in SDBH is past was the Time Power, and possibly its evil aura since it was after the thread existed.
For you to add another layer to this EE because of the hakai, you would have to go to the layer evaluation thread, because for now it is the baseline.
Killerdrone123
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Correct me if I am wrong but isn't time power ee superior to hearts ee and hearts ee is superior to hakai since it can erase zamasu
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I don’t think so
Killerdrone123
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Time power ee is conceptual shouldn't it be better by default
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Fair point
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I hate my ******* life...fu*ry for 12th place, Knives can't do jackshit to passive subjective reality, Immortality type 9, Large size (5-D), and most importantly Plot manipulation. The real question is...Can Spawn beat him?
Edit: Oh jesus, I don't think anyone bellow Setoki can beat him, any spawn supporter here?
Edit: Oh jesus, I don't think anyone bellow Setoki can beat him, any spawn supporter here?
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On what level does it do cause Goku still has CM1, Info 2 and History Regen
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LMAO
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u should make a match up with him vs spawn
for now i put him on 12th place
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i forgor goku can just regen from that
there's this thing called null tempus which makes the character completely undo an event that just happened and cause it to be reattempted with hopefully a better result for the character
wouldn't omega be able to negate the info manip but undoing the event of the info manip happening over and over again?
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Goku has and resist casuality manip
He'd probably be dead before he can try cause time aura
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Was this evaluated in the thread?
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So with the Nonduality stuff for the Sonic characters they have immunity to the Time aura stuff
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As far as I know it is the energy that has non-duality and not the characters.
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I asked shaking about it and he said they had immunity to what the dreams duality stuff had
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ffs im just gonna make the match
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well that didnt last long
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99% chance that Spawn gets stomped by plot and Subjective reality but...Eh...
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Spawn vs Furry (battle for the 11th strongest 5-D..And no smurf)
fu*ry Spawn Round 1: Speed equalized Round 2:Speed NOT equalized Both have 10 seconds of prep time
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what happens if DBH loses their concept and info stuff
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DBH abilities: Electric Boogaloo
Yeah so I looked at the Time Power and Special Ki pages for DBH and there's yet again more questionable stuff I see, so lets get to it. Concept Hax: So ignoring how more than half of this paragraph long explanation feels like nothing burgers as it just repeats stuff unrelated to Conceptual hax...
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They would go down alotwhat happens if DBH loses their concept and info stuff
DBH abilities: Electric Boogaloo
Yeah so I looked at the Time Power and Special Ki pages for DBH and there's yet again more questionable stuff I see, so lets get to it. Concept Hax: So ignoring how more than half of this paragraph long explanation feels like nothing burgers as it just repeats stuff unrelated to Conceptual hax...
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would it be enough for sonic characters to take them out?
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Yeah, and maybe along with Kratos and Sora
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PS Sora, Sonic, Kratos and Instant Death should probably share a tier, as Instant death cant really do anything back to them
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if DBH loses their concept shit this list will become even more complicated
yeah
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You two thought you cooked? Well, you clearly underestimated CC Goku.
(Mind ya we were kinda already assuming the downgrades had gone through)
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I still need the ND stuff answered
and I probably would need to ask questions about abstract invulnerability stuff
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Sonic is physical, his invulnerability changes little.I still need the ND stuff answered
You'd have to argue Sonic himself to be nondual in order for your argument to work.
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His energy is ND, thus his invulnerability is also ND, way I see it you’d need to have bypassed ND invulnerability to get past his invulnerability, also since speed is always equal according to the rules for this list, even if Sonic isn't 5D temporal immeasurable speed when speed isn't equalized, since it is Sonic could dodge
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No,only the energy is Nondual. Sonic's body becomes physically invulnerable,but that only extends to physical attack. Hax is covered by resistances,in case.
"ND invulnerability" isn't a thing, unless,again you think Sonic himself is also NonDual.
And no, the UT aura covers such a vast area, it's literally impossible for him to dodge under SBA.
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His body is empowered by a ND energy source, thus his Invulnerability is ND
For what I've been told the ND energy gives him a resistance to stuff like the UT Aura
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Tbh I could see it, kinda like Kratos’s conceptual invulnerability. If you argue his aura is what makes him invulnerable that is.
It’s comparable to stands blocking physical attacks in JoJo.
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Sorry to burst your bubble,but no. Being empowered by an abstract source =! Being abstract yourself. It never worked like that.
Abstractness doesn't correlate to potency. Sonic has no potency layers as of now,only abstract ones.
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Ong, man pulled a “sorry to burst your bubble”. No way!
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Kratos' invulnerability seems way different. But maybe it's just me.
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