Steven Universe Diamond Blast

[Dalesean027]

They were obviously at the moon base or at this place overseeing the war.

show proof of them operating outside of the moonbase because this isn't an arguement and is contradicted by other statements and things we've already talked about.

White Diamond clearly just warped to the moon base and joined the other diamonds to do this attack.
"the wiki statement is not enough"

it's not enough as its clearly contradictory to the show itself and statements by Blue Diamond we also have the official timeline above something you've completely ignored alongside the other statements. The official timeline that clearly state "All 3 remaining diamonds evacuate loyal gems from + blast all remaining with a psychic attack that should have destroyed them" another statement to this being an actual attack.

 

[Livinmeme]

I only said that the wiki statement is not valid because it doesnt give any evidence never ever talked about the other things but yeah this got debunked also they could do it because the ligth only affects gems

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

People, it's very obvious that the attack didn't come from Homeworld. The Diamonds colonized planets throughout the galaxies. Why would they shoot a blast of presumed destructive light to the cosmos where trillions of planets (including their own run planets) are in the trajectory of Earth? What kind of sense does that make? Why would Yellow and Blue be @ Homeworld AND conducting a war? They were obviously at the moon base or at this place overseeing the war.

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The Cloud Arena is a location first seen in the flashback sequence of "The Answer". It floated above Earth during the time of the Rebellion. Its current appearance and status in the present is unknown. During the early days of the rebellion, Blue Diamond held court there. After an attack by Rose...

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White Diamond clearly just warped to the moon base and joined the other diamonds to do this attack.
"the wiki statement is not enough"
Well, if me, whoever entered the wiki page, and many others, including the guy who originally made the Solar System calc said that this is no way a SS feat or anywhere close to that, I believe the burden of proof is on those who DO think the attack came from homeworld to provide concrete evidence that it did indeed come from HomeWorld. I don't see much of that. I believe it's too outlandish that it came from Homeworld.

"if they were close to Earth, they would have seen that they didn't the job"

The Diamonds didn't even wait for all their forces to leave the Earth. They were fed up and just wanted to get over it. Avenge Pink. Which is exactly what happened. They shot the blast and then moved on immediately.



I disagree this is a AP feat. Yellow Diamond clearly wasn't surprised that organic life is still around on Earth after the blast. So the light had no effect on people, animals, the environment, the planet, pretty much everything else except the gems. Even then, outside of Rose shield blocking the light to spare Garnet and Pearl, other gems were spared due to being bubbled or being inside a mirror. If the mods have agreed this can be applied to AP, so be it, but it should be noted that this attack only works on Gems. So it's pretty much ineffective against other verses/non-Gem characters

If the Diamonds are capable of such AP, why would they need the Cluster to bust planets? I suppose that this is a different topic, but it's still should be considered.

Before we start jumping on the bandwagon of “It would be more logical for the diamonds to do this, so that’s what they likely did” argument, here me and everyone else who agrees with what we talked about at the beginning of the thread out. Even if the diamonds had a moon base for every moon in the galaxys between Homeworld, Earth, and whatever, the diamonds clearly state that white diamond hasn’t left Homeworld in eons. And that’s a fact we can prove from the show/canon material itself. The attack could literally be no where else other that Homeworld because it would conflict with the entire timeline of SU. It doesn’t matter what the fandom, fans, or calculators think would be more logical for the diamonds to do, the diamonds state that white hasn’t left in eons, and the blast had white apart of it meaning that blue and yellow went to Homeworld. That’s not to hard to understand IMO.

As for the “blast only affected diamonds therefore it shouldn’t be a AP feat” argument, the blast only corrupting gems shouldn’t prove this a beam that only works on gems. The diamonds CLEARLY wanted earth dead and with the proof above from the other users, I can say that the blast was completely AP. Blue Diamond literally asked Steven how he survived and said that NO ONE should have survived. There’s also the fact that the diamonds have light damaging attacks that do DAMAGE, not transmutation. Why would they want to tranmutate everyone when they were fed up with everything going on in Earth in general. The transmutation is an after effect that affects gems, that’s all there is to it. I could go on and on but I don’t want to keep repeating the points we already went over that you missed. As for the yellow diamond video, yellow looks very surprised in that video IMO but whatever. Even if she wasn’t surprised, she doesn’t look like she knows a lot about earth itself in general similar to how Peridot did.

All in all, I feel like the burden of proof is on you with all the points we’ve already went over and made that you missed. The blast is clearly AP and the transmutation for gems is an after affect of the blast. Your entire argument is based on the fandom and other users that don’t have any evidence from the original source material to support you.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Never mind then.

However, as far as I understand, energy beams just tend to go onwards throughout outer space until they are stopped, so wouldn't this be a precision and range feat rather than one of greater power than what the Diamonds are currently rated as having?

 

[Dalesean027]

However, as far as I understand, energy beams just tend to go onwards throughout outer space until they are stopped, so wouldn't this be a precision and range feat rather than one of greater power than what the Diamonds are currently rated as having?

It would be both an AP feat and a Precision and Range feat as the wiki does accept this type of feat to be AP

We accept that generating vast amounts of illumination over large distances as an AP feat due how much energy it would require, notable examples being Necrozma and that Mogo feat Weekly cited above.

On top of the fact that th Diamonds, specifically White Diamond, have shown th ability to us their light as direct damaging attacks

Plus the attack was shown to have parted clouds on a global scale

The entirety of the Earth and moon were illuminated by the attack so the energy required for doing that would still scale towards the characters AP as they would generate that energy in the first place.

 

[Antvasima]

But why do you assume that their attack affected an entire galaxy rather than was specifically targetted at the Earth? It seems unproven, especially given that it would otherwise greatly contradict the scale otherwise shown in the series.

 

[Dalesean027]

But why do you assume that their attack affected an entire galaxy rather than was specifically targetted at the Earth? It seems unproven, especially given that it would otherwise greatly contradict the scale otherwise shown in the series.

The blast didn't effect a galaxy that's not the assumption, the blast just came from homeworld galaxy and was fired upon the Earth making it there almost instantly causing complete global illumination.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, and why would that feat be greater in tier than if it had been fired from the Moon?

 

[Oleggator]

Okay, and why would that feat be greater in tier than if it had been fired from the Moon?

I mean, it should require more energy to shoot from homeworld than to shoot from moon, if I'm not get something wrong.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Okay, and why would that feat be greater in tier than if it had been fired from the Moon?

Because it has to travel a hugely longer distance while maintaining its same size, meaning more power would have to be put into the blast for that to happen.

 

[Livinmeme]

Bssically Inverse-square law

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Looks like there’s an outdated calc for the Diamond blast here, but it erroneously uses Earth-Moon distance as opposed to the intergalactic distance revealed later in the series. If anyone knows how to update it accounting for the distance between Homeworld and Earth that’d give the answer.

Spoiler: Outdated calc for pixel scaling and such

Said attack reaches from beyond the Moon, and the distance to the Moon from Earth is 384,400km, or 384,400,000m. Each time we see a brilliant white light, so that looks to be similar to that of the Sun, or lux 100,000.

L = -2.5 log I - 14.2
= -2.5 log 32,000 - 14.2
= -25.4628749

M(star) is the apparent magnitude of the light source
m= is the apparent magnitude of the sun (-26.73)
L(star) is the Luminosity
L= Luminosity of the sun (3.486*10^26)
d= Distance to the sun from earth (0.000004731537734207877 parsecs)
d(star)= distance to the light source

--25.4628749 = -26.73 - 2.5log((L/3.846*10^26)(146000000000/(384400000))^2)

Once again, going to go through this step by step...

(146000000000/(384400000))^2) = 144257.683
-25.4628749 - -26.73 = 144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26)
1.2671251 = -2.5Log(144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26))
1.2671251/-2.5 = (144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26))
10^(-0.50685004) = (144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26))
0.311279098 = (144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26))
0.311279098 X (3.864*10e26) = 144257.683
1.20278243e27/144257.683 = 8.33773568e21 joules

We'll save that to add everything up at the end. The lights power pushes the clouds aside. First for the mass of the clouds. The clouds were parted considerably. The clouds seem to standard nimbus clouds, which float around 2000m off the ground.

object degree size = 2*atan(Object_Size/(Panel_Height/tan(70/2)))

= 2*atan(359/(336/tan(70/2)))
= 0.937267756 rad
= 53.7014866926306524 degrees

Entering that through the angscaler we can get 2025m.

359 pixels = 2025m
1 pixel = 2025m/359 = 5.64066852m
2025m/2 = 1012.5m
5.64066852m X 116 = 654.317548m
654.317548m/2 = 327.158774m
5.64066852m X 134 = 755.849582m
755.849582m/2 = 377.924791m
5.64066852m X 182 = 1026.60167m
1026.60167m/2 = 513.300835m

Volume of both as ellipsoids.

V = 4/3πabc
= 4/3 X π X 1012.5 X 327.158774 X 327.158774
= 453942437m^3

V = 4/3πabc
= 4/3 X π X 377.924791 X 377.924791 X 513.300834
= 307094008m^3

V = 453942437 + 307094008
= 761036445m^3

Mass of a cloud is 1.003m^3.

M = 761036445 X 1.003
= 763319554kg

Next for the timeframe:

0.65 seconds.

T = 2025m/0.65s
= 3115.38462m/s

KE = (0.5) X 763319554 X 3115.38462^2
= 3.70424527e15 joules

E = 8.33773568e21 + 3.70424527e15
= 8.33773938e21 joules
= 1.99276753824 teratons

 

[Livinmeme]

so... all of this for not even a upgrade and being like 1000x times weaker than the currrent AP of the diamonds.... well this sucks

 

[Arceus0x]

bro the stuff they sent is the moon-earth distance one.
Using the galaxy to galaxy distance the length of the beam will be like a trillion times bigger at bare minimum.

Also potential speed upgrades?

 

[Dalesean027]

so... all of this for not even a upgrade and being like 1000x times weaker than the currrent AP of the diamonds.... well this sucks

That calc is outdated and doesn't account for the right distance

 

[Dalesean027]

Also potential speed upgrades?

For sure

 

[Livinmeme]

oh nice

 

[Antvasima]

But if somebody shoots a straight beam of pure energy throughout outer space, with nothing to stop it, it would just keep going over interstellar distances until it struck something. Why would shooting such a beam involve the inverse-square law, rather than an amazing degree of range and precision?

 

[Arceus0x]

i mean light that we see is photons emitted from one place and either continuously shined or flashed once. The case you are dscribing is if they shot one light blast and stopped instantly but instead it seems through the context that it was shined continuously til it hit earth.
But hey, i never watched the show

 

[Antvasima]

I am talking about a pinpoint laser.

 

[Arceus0x]

i mean technically, if we look at it from afar, it would look like a line with a beginning and end as that is the line you shot (no pun intended) while the diamond's line is consistent and is straight form the homeworld to the earth if i understood it correctly.

 

[Dalesean027]

i mean technically, if we look at it from afar, it would look like a line with a beginning and end as that is the line you shot (no pun intended) while the diamond's line is consistent and is straight form the homeworld to the earth if i understood it correctly.

Yes

 

[Arceus0x]

let me use minecraft water as an example.

If you have a 1x1 hole a few dozen blocks deep and you pour water through it and in a few seconds you put it back into the bucket, the water that came from the one you poured will continue going down until it hits the ground and disappears

but if you keep the water on top then the water will pour down til the end without ending.

kinda the same with the diamonds. it is a continuous stream rather than a one time shot.

 

[RiloKileyFan]

I'm honestly baffled on some of the things I'm reading. @Antvasima, I believe this "feat" would need to be carefully analyzed and get many expert opinions before it gets any acceptance. This verse does not have any other feats, scaling, or even statements to support anything beyond Tier 6. OBD calc that has been referenced by me and others, states that Inverse-square law is not justified in this feat.

"White Diamond statement about not leaving HomeWorld in eons is solid proof"

No. It isn't. This statement is equivalent to "my brother haven't left his room in eons!" Which is an exaggeration. Read the Death Battle's Q&A explanation please, they come up with possible explanations for this statement.

"Why didn't X do this type arguments is not good enough"

They are good enough. If you had an galactic(s) empire running, would you shoot a destructive light on a specific target light years away or would you shoot the light in with the Earth in sight? Would you really risk destroying planets, stars, your own colonies, your potential future colonies to blast a planet GALAXIES AWAY? Especially when you are just fed up with the specific planet and wanted to make sure the job is done, would you do it light years away and risk, you know, MISSING the target?

If the Diamonds were capable of such high AP, why do they need the CLUSTER to bust planets?
"Yellow looks surprised in this clip to hear about organic life still around imo"
Seriously??



"I want my cluster and I want that planet to die!"
So Diamonds need a geo-weapon to destroy Earth, obviously planet busting is beyond their AP.

"The wiki and how other calculators interpret this feat is not enough"

Yes it is. You know, the only reason why this thread even exists is because Death Battle decided to use this feat to give Steven scaling to contend with his opponent. Which, even they, backtracked and was "wait hold up" and concluded the blast came between the Moon and the Earth. So city level-country level at best. Which is basically what most people see it as. The OBD calc supports Small Country Level. I was on a different site when the SU preview came out and even the pro-Steven people LAUGHED at this feat/calc. So if the Death Battle calculator who originally came up with the Solar System level/Dwarf Star calc has backtracked, are you guys just going to ignore that?

"They intended to destroy everything on Earth so yeah it's AP totally lol"

Except, you know, it didn't destroy everything. It only corrupted the gems. It's even called the Corrupting Light. It doesn't matter what the intention was, what matters is what resulted from the blast. And result was=corruption of all gems, except those saved by Rose, Lapis who was in her mirror, Bismuth because she was bubbled, and Amethyst because she was chilling in the Kindergarten still. So even the "side effect" failed to do its job. Even the light attack that only affects gems has a limit.

It's shown time and time again that Gem powers or "hax" has NO affect on Humans.


White Diamond had to use Pearl to fend off Connie, because her gem abilities would have no affect on her.


The Bottom line is
Even if you accept that it came from HomeWorld, even if you accept that this is a AP feat...... At the end of the day, my dog would've tanked this blast. Is my dog Solar System level? Dwarf Star? Country? City? No. Of course not. This feat is not EVEN Life Wiping. It didn't cause natural disaster. It didn't burn anybody's eyes out. It practically did nothing to even animals or birds, or insects. It only corrupted the gems. Nothing changes these facts.


I apolgize if I come across as mean or a downplayer. I'm not. I love SU. But this feat is trash. I'm sorry.

 

[Dalesean027]

White Diamond statement about not leaving HomeWorld in eons is solid proof"

No. It isn't. This statement is equivalent to "my brother haven't left his room in eons!" Which is an exaggeration. Read the Death Battle's Q&A explanation please, they come up with possible explanations for this statement.

Why is this exaggeration the diamonds or st least white diamond is 20,000 years old, why would death battle's thoughts on this matter against the actual source material. Again this isn't an arguement

They are good enough. If you had an galactic(s) empire running, would you shoot a destructive light on a specific target light years away or would you shoot the light in with the Earth in sight? Would you really risk destroying planets, stars, your own colonies, your potential future colonies to blast a planet GALAXIES AWAY? Especially when you are just fed up with the specific planet and wanted to make sure the job is done, would you do it light years away and risk, you know, MISSING the target?

Again this isn't an arguement arguing the logistics behind it doesn't make what we know happens less credible when everything supports what we've been saying and as everyone knows the blast blitzed everyone so it doesn't matter and again you're saying this about an alien race that uses galaxy warps to traverse throughout sperate galaxies and has Massively FTL and Lightspeed travel and attacks widely available to them.

"I want my cluster and I want that planet to die!"
So Diamonds need a geo-weapon to destroy Earth, obviously planet busting is beyond their AP.

The clip in question is after seasons into the show after Yellow Diamond and homeworld Clearly learn that the Crystal gem's and life on Earth were already around. And Yellow says she wants the cluster not needs the cluster, the cluster is an all important Gem weapon that scales above mostly all gems and takes hundreds to thousands of years to incubate so of course Yellow wants the cluster when it takes a long time to produce even one of them.

White Diamond had to use Pearl to fend off Connie, because her gem abilities would have no affect on her.

So you're now suggesting Pearl is on the level of white diamond?

The Bottom line is
Even if you accept that it came from HomeWorld, even if you accept that this is a AP feat...... At the end of the day, my dog would've tanked this blast. Is my dog Solar System level? Dwarf Star? Country? City? No. Of course not. This feat is not EVEN Life Wiping. It didn't cause natural disaster. It didn't burn anybody's eyes out. It practically did nothing to even animals or birds, or insects. It only corrupted the gems. Nothing changes these facts.

We've literally once again already explained these points above you're feelings aren't arguements or debunks please actually use evidence from the series to prove me wrong and not recycling of the same clips we've already spoken about in number

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

I'm honestly baffled on some of the things I'm reading. @Antvasima, I believe this "feat" would need to be carefully analyzed and get many expert opinions before it gets any acceptance. This verse does not have any other feats, scaling, or even statements to support anything beyond Tier 6. OBD calc that has been referenced by me and others, states that Inverse-square law is not justified in this feat.

"White Diamond statement about not leaving HomeWorld in eons is solid proof"

No. It isn't. This statement is equivalent to "my brother haven't left his room in eons!" Which is an exaggeration. Read the Death Battle's Q&A explanation please, they come up with possible explanations for this statement.

"Why didn't X do this type arguments is not good enough"

They are good enough. If you had an galactic(s) empire running, would you shoot a destructive light on a specific target light years away or would you shoot the light in with the Earth in sight? Would you really risk destroying planets, stars, your own colonies, your potential future colonies to blast a planet GALAXIES AWAY? Especially when you are just fed up with the specific planet and wanted to make sure the job is done, would you do it light years away and risk, you know, MISSING the target?

If the Diamonds were capable of such high AP, why do they need the CLUSTER to bust planets?
"Yellow looks surprised in this clip to hear about organic life still around imo"
Seriously??



"I want my cluster and I want that planet to die!"
So Diamonds need a geo-weapon to destroy Earth, obviously planet busting is beyond their AP.

"The wiki and how other calculators interpret this feat is not enough"

Yes it is. You know, the only reason why this thread even exists is because Death Battle decided to use this feat to give Steven scaling to contend with his opponent. Which, even they, backtracked and was "wait hold up" and concluded the blast came between the Moon and the Earth. So city level-country level at best. Which is basically what most people see it as. The OBD calc supports Small Country Level. I was on a different site when the SU preview came out and even the pro-Steven people LAUGHED at this feat/calc. So if the Death Battle calculator who originally came up with the Solar System level/Dwarf Star calc has backtracked, are you guys just going to ignore that?

"They intended to destroy everything on Earth so yeah it's AP totally lol"

Except, you know, it didn't destroy everything. It only corrupted the gems. It's even called the Corrupting Light. It doesn't matter what the intention was, what matters is what resulted from the blast. And result was=corruption of all gems, except those saved by Rose, Lapis who was in her mirror, Bismuth because she was bubbled, and Amethyst because she was chilling in the Kindergarten still. So even the "side effect" failed to do its job. Even the light attack that only affects gems has a limit.

It's shown time and time again that Gem powers or "hax" has NO affect on Humans.


White Diamond had to use Pearl to fend off Connie, because her gem abilities would have no affect on her.


The Bottom line is
Even if you accept that it came from HomeWorld, even if you accept that this is a AP feat...... At the end of the day, my dog would've tanked this blast. Is my dog Solar System level? Dwarf Star? Country? City? No. Of course not. This feat is not EVEN Life Wiping. It didn't cause natural disaster. It didn't burn anybody's eyes out. It practically did nothing to even animals or birds, or insects. It only corrupted the gems. Nothing changes these facts.


I apolgize if I come across as mean or a downplayer. I'm not. I love SU. But this feat is trash. I'm sorry.

Dude, listen. Almost all the things you just said we have already proved wrong. We have already proven that the light was AP. Blue Diamond literally asked Steven how he survived and that NO ONE and I repeat NO ONE SHOULD HAVE SURVIVED. Myself as well as everyone in this thread are getting tired of repeating the points that pretty much 100% prove this is AP. Literally read the main points that we made in the thread. It’s not that hard. Dalesean even linked some of our points we made previously before you started posting. It’s like your ignoring my posts as well.

Also as for the diamonds using the cluster. The diamonds were literally extremely mad and wanted waste of the crystal gems beating there soldiers. They got tired of the fighting and wanted to move on, the diamonds just fired and moved on. And why they don’t do that all the time? The diamonds have other jobs carrying out there missions for there soldiers and probably don’t want to call each other to do the planetary attack of the day when they have a cluster that can do it for them. Oh also you ask “why didn’t it destroy the whole earth?” Hmmm…. Idk oh wait I know! Maybe because Rose Quarts/Pink Diamond was protecting it with her shield?! Literally nonsense being brought up.

Look your still basing things on fandom, death battle, calculators, and random stuff that can easily proven wrong. For instance, “why is it called the corruption blast if it causes destruction?” Do we judge a weapon or an attack by its name? Like do we say “In the MCU there’s a weapon called the Infinity Gauntlet, so it must have infinite power because it has the word infinity in it! ” No. Even if it causes corruption, it’s an after affect for something that has literally been proven to be AP.

I’m sorry for being a bit harsh and I’m sorry if I got a bit mad in this post, but we are kinda tired arguments that have already been proven wrong. It’s like were fighting a broken record and its kind of holding us back from getting anything on this done.

 

[Antvasima]

You need a calculation for this feat. I also do not think that the inverse square law applies for this. In addition, continuous long-lasting attacks are counted in energy expenditure per second according to our standards, and your conclusion would be too far above everything else in this series.

 

[RiloKileyFan]

I'll respond later. I remembered this episode last night.


When Peridot meets Steven and the gang for the first time, Peridot states "The Records say the Gems were wiped out at Earth!"
Perdiot never states that organic life, All Life, Human life, or any variation. So Even the Diamonds documented that ONLY Gems were wiped out. No other beings.
Peridot doesn't seem to be surprised or shocked to hear that there's still bunch of humans around on the planet.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

I'll respond later. I remembered this episode last night.


When Peridot meets Steven and the gang for the first time, Peridot states "The Records say the Gems were wiped out at Earth!"
Perdiot never states that organic life, All Life, Human life, or any variation. So Even the Diamonds documented that ONLY Gems were wiped out. No other beings.
Peridot doesn't seem to be surprised or shocked to hear that there's still bunch of humans around on the planet.

First off, Peridot asked Steven if “Stevens” have took over the human race as if they were nonexistent anymore. Peridot only stating that the record said that all Gems were destroyed is not a very good argument given the fact she never says it is impossible that organic life could have been destroyed. Peridot was surprised in the moment because she wasn’t expecting other gems from planet earth to be alive and well. She NEVER states that only gems should have been destroyed nor does she infer to it. If she said “The document says ONLY gems should have been destroyed” then you’d have a good argument. However she says it in a way that they should have been wiped out along with earth.

Secondly, Peridot and the diamonds at this time don’t really know a lot about earth outside of there’s gems on that planet nor do they care about the organic life existing on Earth. Yellow literally doesn’t seem to give a crap about Earth and compares it to a big chunk of rubble. So it’s not valid to make it seem like they know a bunch about the earth and the organic life existing on it.

Listen, we have already gained enough proof to prove that the blast was AP. I feel like we’re beyond the point of arguing if the blast was AP and we should get it calced and decide how to incorporate the feat after it gets calced.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Looks like there’s an outdated calc for the Diamond blast here, but it erroneously uses Earth-Moon distance as opposed to the intergalactic distance revealed later in the series. If anyone knows how to update it accounting for the distance between Homeworld and Earth that’d give the answer.

Spoiler: Outdated calc for pixel scaling and such

Said attack reaches from beyond the Moon, and the distance to the Moon from Earth is 384,400km, or 384,400,000m. Each time we see a brilliant white light, so that looks to be similar to that of the Sun, or lux 100,000.

L = -2.5 log I - 14.2
= -2.5 log 32,000 - 14.2
= -25.4628749

M(star) is the apparent magnitude of the light source
m= is the apparent magnitude of the sun (-26.73)
L(star) is the Luminosity
L= Luminosity of the sun (3.486*10^26)
d= Distance to the sun from earth (0.000004731537734207877 parsecs)
d(star)= distance to the light source

--25.4628749 = -26.73 - 2.5log((L/3.846*10^26)(146000000000/(384400000))^2)

Once again, going to go through this step by step...

(146000000000/(384400000))^2) = 144257.683
-25.4628749 - -26.73 = 144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26)
1.2671251 = -2.5Log(144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26))
1.2671251/-2.5 = (144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26))
10^(-0.50685004) = (144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26))
0.311279098 = (144257.683/((L/3.846*10^26))
0.311279098 X (3.864*10e26) = 144257.683
1.20278243e27/144257.683 = 8.33773568e21 joules

We'll save that to add everything up at the end. The lights power pushes the clouds aside. First for the mass of the clouds. The clouds were parted considerably. The clouds seem to standard nimbus clouds, which float around 2000m off the ground.

= 2*atan(359/(336/tan(70/2)))
= 0.937267756 rad
= 53.7014866926306524 degrees

Entering that through the angscaler we can get 2025m.

359 pixels = 2025m
1 pixel = 2025m/359 = 5.64066852m
2025m/2 = 1012.5m
5.64066852m X 116 = 654.317548m
654.317548m/2 = 327.158774m
5.64066852m X 134 = 755.849582m
755.849582m/2 = 377.924791m
5.64066852m X 182 = 1026.60167m
1026.60167m/2 = 513.300835m

Volume of both as ellipsoids.

V = 4/3πabc
= 4/3 X π X 1012.5 X 327.158774 X 327.158774
= 453942437m^3

V = 4/3πabc
= 4/3 X π X 377.924791 X 377.924791 X 513.300834
= 307094008m^3

V = 453942437 + 307094008
= 761036445m^3

Mass of a cloud is 1.003m^3.

M = 761036445 X 1.003
= 763319554kg

Next for the timeframe:

0.65 seconds.

T = 2025m/0.65s
= 3115.38462m/s

KE = (0.5) X 763319554 X 3115.38462^2
= 3.70424527e15 joules

E = 8.33773568e21 + 3.70424527e15
= 8.33773938e21 joules
= 1.99276753824 teratons

That calc is for them firing a laser from just behind the moon, not from Homeworld

 

[WeeklyBattles]

You need a calculation for this feat. I also do not think that the inverse square law applies for this. In addition, continuous long-lasting attacks are counted in energy expenditure per second according to our standards, and your conclusion would be too far above everything else in this series.

A feat performed by the god tiers of the verse is far above everyone else in the series

Shocking

 

[Livinmeme]

yep even the gems considered poofing a gem like a joke so there is that

 

[Antvasima]

A feat performed by the god tiers of the verse is far above everyone else in the series

Shocking

Even if that were true, my other points still stand.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

I personally think the feat can stay. Whether it applies to only the diamonds and Steven or something like that, it should stay. Just because it’s doesn’t line up to all the regular gems, it could scale to the high tiers aka Steven and the diamonds. There’s no reason why it shouldn’t since the feat itself is only performed by the high tiers in the first place. As of now we really need the feat to be calced so we can discuss the tiering.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Its a feat performed by th god tiers that scales solely to the god tiers, it doesnt need to line up with the weaker characters in the verse because to literally every othr charactr in the entire verse the Diamonds are untouchable

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Yeah, I agree with them personally. This can be a case like RWBY where majority of the cast can't reach past Tier 7 but the God Tiers are freakin' Tier 5 and it only scales to them.

 

[Antvasima]

Again, the inverse square law does not apply for straight energy beams travelling through outer space, and in addition, continuous long-lasting attacks are tiered as energy expenditure per second according to our standards.

My apologies, but this suggestion has been firmly rejected.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Again, the inverse square law does not apply for straight energy beams travelling through outer space, and in addition, continuous long-lasting attacks are tiered as energy expenditure per second according to our standards.

My apologies, but this suggestion has been firmly rejected.

So what your saying is that the attack from the diamonds are incalculable since inverse square law doesn’t work? Isn’t there any other way we could calculate this?

 

[RiloKileyFan]

Again, the inverse square law does not apply for straight energy beams travelling through outer space, and in addition, continuous long-lasting attacks are tiered as energy expenditure per second according to our standards.

My apologies, but this suggestion has been firmly rejected.

So no need for another wall of text from me? I had a lot to say...

I think a note on the verse page or on the Diamonds should be useful in the event future generations question why this "feat" isn't valid.
Maybe it should be removed from White Diamond's page for attack speed as well.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, just to make certain, somebody should probably summarise the feat, so I can ask a few calc group members for confirmations.