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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode V Attack of the Fanons

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I haven't been keeping up with the comics and books for several months now. I have no hope of story improvements since the Canon has been downhill since TROS for me. I know that sounds surprising coming from me since I was an ardent defender of the new Canon.

Anyway... All I want to know are about any potentially good feats. Specifically: any good feats for blasters and spaceships and other weapons?

I don't care about being spoiled, so go ahead and drop some spoilers if they're relevant to the feats.
 
I don't recall anything specific, but there's an ISD making a massive crater, torpedoes setting off a volcano, Vader shielding himself from an orbital fall, a Star Destroyer falling from orbit and remaining mostly intact with heavy damage, etc.

Reasonably impressive, but no upgrades.

While I'd say pretty much everything has been getting worse since TROS (which I'd argue is worse than most of the comics), the Vader and Star Wars 2020 lines are still quite decent.
 
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Here's a relatively impressive feat, but it's also High Republic Era (where they toss mountains).

A severely damaged space station was slowly falling towards Eiram (a verdant human colony). Tidal forces should have ripped it apart due to being near the planet's atmosphere, but Maru prevented that until (even with assistance from Avar Kriss and these guys) it hit the mesosphere and broke apart.

It's a pretty big station. Keep in mind that one of those ports dwarf ships in the freighter size range.

Assuming the planet's mass is comparable to Earth, the station's as heavy as the ISS and it was held apart at 100 km gets 17722467037 newtons (Class G). That's definitely the maximum value, but it seems like it'd still be far into the Class M range.
 
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The thing about Force Healing in all versions is that, even if you can use it (which is insanely difficult for most, including Legends Anakin, and required an amp to be successful in TROS), it's insanely taxing to the point of being practically worthless in combat.

It's even implied in both continuities that it takes Clone Wars-era Jedi dedicated to the craft to reliably heal fatal injuries. And keep in mind that the average lifespan for a Clone Wars Jedi, who were stretched thin even at the start of AoTC, was probably equal to a Mayfly. So it makes sense why we didn't see too many people use it.

TROS is a bad Star Wars movie, but I don't get why people are always like 'Yoda could have used Force Heal that one time', or 'why did they need holocomms if they can project themselves across light-years?'

A) they wouldn't even know about it, B) they couldn't do it, C) it wouldn't work/wouldn't be effective, D) they'd die, or E) a combination of those factors. Not to mention that TROS simply gave a version of Force Heal, and didn't even say it was something a lot of people could do.
Pokemonfan807 said:
Question how good is sidious’s mind manipulation?

is it multiple layered mind manipulation?

And yes this is legends sidious
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In canon, it's strongly implied he was at least subtly using mind manip on the Senate. He also uses something similar to a mind trick to knock people out.
 
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ByAsura said:
The thing about Force Healing in all versions is that, even if you can use it (which is insanely difficult for most, including Legends Anakin, and required an amp to be successful in TROS), it's insanely taxing to the point of being practically worthless in combat.

It's even implied in both continuities that it takes Clone Wars-era Jedi dedicated to the craft to reliably heal fatal injuries. And keep in mind that the average lifespan for a Clone Wars Jedi, who were stretched thin even at the start of AoTC, was probably equal to a Mayfly. So it makes sense why we didn't see too many people use it.

TROS is a bad Star Wars movie, but I don't get why people are always like 'Yoda could have used Force Heal that one time', or 'why did they need holocomms if they can project themselves across light-years?'

A) they wouldn't even know about it, B) they couldn't do it, C) it wouldn't work/wouldn't be effective, D) they'd die, or E) a combination of those factors. Not to mention that TROS simply gave a version of Force Heal, and didn't even say it was something a lot of people could do.

In canon, it's strongly implied he was at least subtly using mind manip on the Senate. He also uses something similar to a mind trick to knock people out.
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I meant legends sidious not canon sidious asura

aka the EU before Disney declared it non canon
 
I'll get back to you on that (there's a book somewhere).

But it's explained that the whole galaxy-wide cloud of darkness was a ritual, so he can do it indirectly and very indiscriminately to trillions.
 
IIRC, there's techniques he knows (due to having books of this time) that can induce fear and rip apart the minds of Mind Trick resistant characters.

So I'd say yes, but not particularly.
 



my question: would Vader have exterminated the entire zyggerian race if he commanded the battle against the zyggerians during the war between their empire and the galactic empire?

considering he used to be a slave and he hated slavery.
 
Snoke was also going to bombard an entire solar system if he knew where Luke was. And Palpatine is Snoke.

Barring cosmic beings, is there anyone more evil than Palpatine in Star Wars Canon?
 
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Snoke was also going to bombard an entire solar system if he knew where Luke was. And Palpatine is Snoke.

Barring cosmic beings, is there anyone more evil than Palpatine in Star Wars Canon?
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Tarkin has done some pretty horrific shit (such as live broadcasting footage of some prisoners he literally cooked alive). But I think Palpatine is the number one baddie in Canon.
 
Stefano4444 said:
Except Kylo did resurrect Rey, only to die later.
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Here is the problem. Force Heal was never stated to revive ppl. Also… In legends, it wasn’t Force Heal that resurrected ppl, it was Dark Transfer.

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Dark transfer

Dark transfer was a Force power that allowed the user to bring others back from the brink of death or reawaken the dead by drawing upon the dark side to heal. Cade Skywalker was a notable user who instinctively used the ability without being taught. Darth Krayt learned it and succeeded in...
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Wow, I have a lot of great things to say about that episode. Attack of the Clones flashbacks where Anakin sparred with Obi Wan giving us an actually good lightsaber battle for once, Vader absolutely destroying Reva and pulling ships down, Order 66 flashbacks showing Anakin killing younglings, and many moments that gave us hope and despair. Best episode so far
 
Coolboy6 said:
Wow, I have a lot of great things to say about that episode. Attack of the Clones flashbacks where Anakin sparred with Obi Wan giving us an actually good lightsaber battle for once, Vader absolutely destroying Reva and pulling ships down, Order 66 flashbacks showing Anakin killing younglings, and many moments that gave us hope and despair. Best episode so far
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I haven't been watching the series because I want to binge when final episode is out.

But I have to ask:

Any hints of or appearances from Qui-Gon so far?
 
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
He tried to contact him multiple times but couldn't. Hopefully hinting at an appearance in the finale.
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We know Liam Neeson is reprising his role for Tales of the Jedi (voice only) which is coming in just a few months. So it wouldn't surprise me if we got him here as well.

Blue Liam Neeson with mullet and Jedi robes is long overdue!
 
Watching Season 5 of The Clone Wars rn. Maybe I'm just a George Lucas fanboy but I surprisingly really dug the D-Squad arc. Feels like it's just hated because it's not dark and edgy enough for some people.
 
Hey guys what are the best planets to live on in star wars

cause I know coruscant is not one since the lower the levels are the badder it gets

and even rich people have to worry about problems too
 
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kinda scary when a dude has the ability to consume all the life force of an entire planet (nihilus)


also wasn’t there a sith that could create force lightning over an entire planet in legends?
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Palpatine in Legends
He could create Force Storm wormholes that could cover a planet's surface.

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Hey guys what are the best planets to live on in star wars

cause I know coruscant is not one since the lower the levels are the badder it gets

and even rich people have to worry about problems too
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Coolboy6 said:
Naboo because it just looks nice, and the people seem pretty nice too I guess
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Alderaan; at least up until a certain tragic event. They also were very welcoming of refugees and reformed criminals. They also welcomed those escaping slavery or wrongful imprisonment.

Naboo, which is pretty much a second Alderaan both in terms of culture and hospitality. Chandrila (Mon Mothma's home-world) is also very nice; it is also a lot like Alderaan and Naboo in culture and hospitality.

And Lothal is also actually quite good. Lothal was essentially less affluent Chandrila, a melting of pot of various species, affordable, peaceful. Same goes for Pantora. There are a few other planets as well, with genuinely good people but bad climate. Pamarthe was good, especially the people, but it rained literally all the ******* time.

I would say Kashyyyk as well. Because who doesn't love warm and cuddly Wookiee hugs and living in tropical tree cities and babysitting adorable baby Wookiees? Only problems? Trandoshan slavers/hunters causing trouble every now and then, Fascist slavers under the Empire and First Order, and car-sized spiders with 9-A durability (can take hits from heavy blasters with enough energy per shot to vaporize an adult human) in both Legends and Canon. Other than that though, lovely and peaceful.

Then there is Zeltros, which is essentially the vacation/party planet of the galaxy in both continuities. Heck, in Legends it was also the uh . . . sex capital of the galaxy. Let's just say the Zeltrons (at least in Legends) are a . . . very loving species, if you know what I mean.
 
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Soldier_Blue said:
Palpatine in Legends
He could create Force Storm wormholes that could cover a planet's surface.



Alderaan; at least up until a certain tragic event. They also were very welcoming of refugees and reformed criminals. They also welcomed those escaping slavery or wrongful imprisonment.

Naboo, which is pretty much a second Alderaan both in terms of culture and hospitality. Chandrila (Mon Mothma's home-world) is also very nice; it is also a lot like Alderaan and Naboo in culture and hospitality.

And Lothal is also actually quite good. Lothal was essentially less affluent Chandrila, a melting of pot of various species, affordable, peaceful. Same goes for Pantora. There are a few other planets as well, with genuinely good people but bad climate. Pamarthe was good, especially the people, but it rained literally all the ******* time.

I would say Kashyyyk as well. Because who doesn't love warm and cuddly Wookiee hugs and living in tropical tree cities and babysitting adorable baby Wookiees? Only problems? Trandoshan slavers/hunters causing trouble every now and then, Fascist slavers under the Empire and First Order, and car-sized spiders with 9-A durability (can take hits from heavy blasters with enough energy per shot to vaporize an adult human) in both Legends and Canon. Other than that though, lovely and peaceful.

Then there is Zeltros, which is essentially the vacation/party planet of the galaxy in both continuities. Heck, in Legends it was also the uh . . . sex capital of the galaxy. Let's just say the Zeltrons (at least in Legends) are a . . . very loving species, if you know what I mean.
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yeah the zeltrons their pheromones stop anyone from conquering them
 
Haven't seen it yet.

Are there any substantial contradictions in the series?
 
ByAsura said:
Haven't seen it yet.

Are there any substantial contradictions in the series?
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Some people argue so, but most of it are things you can squint really hard at and explain away. Although squinting is definitely required.

The biggest thing I can't really gloss over was probably Luke seeing someone with a lightsaber.
 
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