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and besides, the ones we have are accurate anyway so
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Spider-Man: No Way Home Discussion Thread - WITH SPOILERS
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No they have black glove fingers instead of red and the gold wrist braces from the Iron Spider
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no it has the red gloves but you're right about the other thing i guess
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For him to yield lower values than TASM Spidey makes sense. I mean, he did consider Rhino to be pretty lame in comparison to his counterparts' rogues gallery (albeit, Venom and Thanos were being mentioned so that may be a bit unfair, though TASM Spidey was informed of Goblin, Octavius, and Sandman at that time)
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The first one is fine but I think you could've gotten a tiny bit more accurate results using paint.net.
Second calc? There was no need for pixel-scaling, explosion covers an entire lane on Park Avenue 56th Street, says so on the Police radio in the movie, it's right in front of the Seagram Building, and that lane is 13.35 meters wide, entire road gets covered up in the explosion.
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Only a bit of the wall is shown so the result would be much lower
i updated the second calc
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I commented, got an updated diameter, 13.34 meters, radius is thus 6.67 meters.
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Nah, what I mean is, you could've measured Rhino's height using paint.net. That's all.
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apologies
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No worries, it's all right.
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Updated the calculation again
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Rhino also cracked concrete by simply stepping on it so that could be worth calcing, along with his GPE since the mech should weigh quite a lot
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Revised Rhino stats could look like this (in response to this surprising, but welcoming calc)
Rhino:
Attack Potency: Human level, Wall level in his suit (Broke through a reinforced concrete wall. Tossed a car hard enough to crash on top of another, flattening their roofs. Flipped over and damaged several cars. A single step in the Rhino Suit leaves large cracks in roads), Small Building level with missiles
Speed: Average Human, Superhuman travel speed in his suit, Supersonic+ attack speed with guns and missiles (Utilizes machine guns and missiles that travel this fast)
Durability: Human level, Wall level in his suit (Garners this level due its size and metal material, having no trouble after bursting through concrete and suffering zero damage from continuous gunfire)
Abilities:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Weapon Mastery, Large Size (Type 0), Explosion Manipulation (With missiles), Vehicular Mastery (Easily navigated a large truck through a police chase, only being stopped due to Spider-Man's interference. Piloted the Rhino Suit with ease), Homing Attack (The Rhino Suit's missiles have been shown to home in on its targets)
Note: Please avoid scaling The Rhino to Spider-Man. Not only is their fight off-screen, but he had lost their battle and Spider-Man himself briefly implied to his alternate counterparts that Aleksei was "lame" in comparison to any of the threats they had faced
Rhino:
Attack Potency: Human level, Wall level in his suit (Broke through a reinforced concrete wall. Tossed a car hard enough to crash on top of another, flattening their roofs. Flipped over and damaged several cars. A single step in the Rhino Suit leaves large cracks in roads), Small Building level with missiles
Speed: Average Human, Superhuman travel speed in his suit, Supersonic+ attack speed with guns and missiles (Utilizes machine guns and missiles that travel this fast)
Durability: Human level, Wall level in his suit (Garners this level due its size and metal material, having no trouble after bursting through concrete and suffering zero damage from continuous gunfire)
Abilities:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Weapon Mastery, Large Size (Type 0), Explosion Manipulation (With missiles), Vehicular Mastery (Easily navigated a large truck through a police chase, only being stopped due to Spider-Man's interference. Piloted the Rhino Suit with ease), Homing Attack (The Rhino Suit's missiles have been shown to home in on its targets)
Note: Please avoid scaling The Rhino to Spider-Man. Not only is their fight off-screen, but he had lost their battle and Spider-Man himself briefly implied to his alternate counterparts that Aleksei was "lame" in comparison to any of the threats they had faced
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Looks good
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Exactly! The stuff he did in the Mirror Dimension was some next level shit
Plus he pushed Peter's soul out of his body and was most likely going to put it back in if Peter didn't do it himself, which justifies getting rid of the whole "limited" for Soul Manip. as well, not to mention his ability to commune with astral form and make his own visible to others if he wants to. Probably got other skills we haven't seen yet.What about intangibility by the way? He went straight through the barrier he created for the villains, but not sure that's an affect of the spell.
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I believe a Bonesaw profile used to exist at some point but was deleted due to scaling him to Spider-man
Would it be possible for Bonesaw to return if he didn't scale to Spidey?
Would it be possible for Bonesaw to return if he didn't scale to Spidey?
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he would be boundless if he were to return
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Obviously, scaling him to Spider-man was ridiculous downplay
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Actual Feat wise:
-Bonesaw could throw another wrestler at a table so hard he broke it, the same wrestler also later mentioned he can't feel his legs
-He could pick up Peter and slam him into bars
-He also used a chair and a crowbar during the fight which could be optional equipment i guess
He would probably be 10-A or 9-C physically and 9-C with weapons
-Bonesaw could throw another wrestler at a table so hard he broke it, the same wrestler also later mentioned he can't feel his legs
-He could pick up Peter and slam him into bars
-He also used a chair and a crowbar during the fight which could be optional equipment i guess
He would probably be 10-A or 9-C physically and 9-C with weapons
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I remember when there was a 616 Wresler profile that tried to claim he scaled to an early Spider-Man which made no sense
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We need a good Hulk movie smh
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I have not watched the 2003 Hulk movie yet
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Kind of sad one of the most famous Marvel IP's got a mediocre oneshot movie (Hulk 2003), a very boring intro movie which got overshadowed by the other (and much better) MCU movie in 2008 (Hulk 2008), a silly and awkward love story (Age of Ultron), Didn't even see him in the movie (Infinity War), and a subplot which had plenty of wasted potential (Endgame).
Avengers 2012 was by far the best deception of Hulk
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I actually liked the 2008 Hulk movie
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I found the cgi satisfying in the 2003 film. Most notably the hallway scene.
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off topic but does someone have that class m - k Santa Monica building calc?
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All I know of is the calc on this Comic Vine thread, but the measurements used for the relevant section of the tower (A length, width, and height of 8.65m, 8.65m, and 34.6m respectively) are apparently considerably larger than they should be, resulting in overinflated results.
Someone on the second page of that thread used pixel scaling based on the full tower's known height of 40 meters (130 feet) to determine the dimensions of the falling section are apparently 5x5x28 meters, and that the mass would supposedly be closer to 250 tons. Not sure if that's any more accurate, but it seems worth noting.
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i see, thanks
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Both were enjoyable enough, don't think they're as terrible as people make them out to be, but they aren't good enough movies exploring the character that Hulk deserves.
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So i did some rather simple mathematics and for Rhino's GPE to even be 0.0001 Tons than his current physical rating he would have to weigh around 157964.28kg
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I just realized that Electro was giving the two Spider-Men the electric torture while Doc Ock grabbed them, so I think that should at least be a heads up on the justification. Not that he should be given a lower rating, because he did fight on even ground with the Iron Spider, but just a note of importance.
Something along the lines of
At least Building level (Dominated the Iron Spider when fighting against him. Overpowered two Spider-Men at once, the former of which he could continuously restrain effortlessly in their prior battles and even threatened to kill by crushing his head, although it should be noted that Electro was already holding both Spider-Men with electricity)
Something along the lines of
At least Building level (Dominated the Iron Spider when fighting against him. Overpowered two Spider-Men at once, the former of which he could continuously restrain effortlessly in their prior battles and even threatened to kill by crushing his head, although it should be noted that Electro was already holding both Spider-Men with electricity)
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Since both the Spider-Men are comparable it'd make little to no difference anyway. Dock already singlehandedly overpowered a much stronger version of Spidey so it stands that the un-amped Spidey would be a decent bit weaker. Remember, each of the arms can tank the Pumpkin bombs exploding inside their claws unscathed.
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Speaking of Doc Ock (blatant calc advertising ahead)
I made a calc for the energy output of Doc Ocks protostar a whiiile back
The calc would probably scale to the durability of Ocks arms due to them being designed to interact with the protostar, so would it also scale to Normans glider blades for damaging the arms?
I made a calc for the energy output of Doc Ocks protostar a whiiile back
The calc would probably scale to the durability of Ocks arms due to them being designed to interact with the protostar, so would it also scale to Normans glider blades for damaging the arms?
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Hmmmmm, this is the first time I've seen a calc like this. I'll ask Spino to see if this is valid.
Not necessarily sure about that, we don't know from which exact part of the protostar the power is being generated, and it's certainly not the outer physical layer that the claws are touching.
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